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Gordie Howe Bridge (US-Canada)

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kalvado

Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2026, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 17, 2026, 10:50:03 AMAre Canadians trying to shoot themselves in the foot?  If you bamboozle Trump into thinking he made some genius deal that was really just the same deal that existed before, you don't tell him that until it's too late for him to back out!

The bridge opens in days.  Most people are excited.  You seem irritated.  Why?  The bridge is opening now — that's the actual news.  I'm not obligated to let misstatements sit uncorrected.
We live in a world where bridge is not open until it is open, and then you  hope it's not closed again.
On a same token, latest and greatest $6B transmission line project carrying power from Canadian arctic to NYC became operational in late June, with actual operation on July 1 - and now it's offline till the end of the month. They say it is a technical issue,  disregarding reports of someone with red hair seen in upstate...


hbelkins

Quote from: kalvado on July 17, 2026, 02:35:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2026, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 17, 2026, 10:50:03 AMAre Canadians trying to shoot themselves in the foot?  If you bamboozle Trump into thinking he made some genius deal that was really just the same deal that existed before, you don't tell him that until it's too late for him to back out!

The bridge opens in days.  Most people are excited.  You seem irritated.  Why?  The bridge is opening now — that's the actual news.  I'm not obligated to let misstatements sit uncorrected.
We live in a world where bridge is not open until it is open, and then you  hope it's not closed again.

This is a bridge to Canada, not to Alanland.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

kphoger

Quote from: hbelkins on July 17, 2026, 02:39:27 PMThis is a bridge to Canada, not to Alanland.

In Alanland, one apologizes for the opening of a bridge.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kalvado

Quote from: hbelkins on July 17, 2026, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: kalvado on July 17, 2026, 02:35:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2026, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 17, 2026, 10:50:03 AMAre Canadians trying to shoot themselves in the foot?  If you bamboozle Trump into thinking he made some genius deal that was really just the same deal that existed before, you don't tell him that until it's too late for him to back out!

The bridge opens in days.  Most people are excited.  You seem irritated.  Why?  The bridge is opening now — that's the actual news.  I'm not obligated to let misstatements sit uncorrected.
We live in a world where bridge is not open until it is open, and then you  hope it's not closed again.

This is a bridge to Canada, not to Alanland.
Yes, that's a bridge too far!

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kalvado on July 17, 2026, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 17, 2026, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: kalvado on July 17, 2026, 02:35:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2026, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 17, 2026, 10:50:03 AMAre Canadians trying to shoot themselves in the foot?  If you bamboozle Trump into thinking he made some genius deal that was really just the same deal that existed before, you don't tell him that until it's too late for him to back out!

The bridge opens in days.  Most people are excited.  You seem irritated.  Why?  The bridge is opening now — that's the actual news.  I'm not obligated to let misstatements sit uncorrected.
We live in a world where bridge is not open until it is open, and then you  hope it's not closed again.

This is a bridge to Canada, not to Alanland.
Yes, that's a bridge too far!

Since when is the Samoa Bridge (AKA Alanbridge) anything but not too far, just enough, very demure?

Beltway

Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2026, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 17, 2026, 10:50:03 AMAre Canadians trying to shoot themselves in the foot?  If you bamboozle Trump into thinking he made some genius deal that was really just the same deal that existed before, you don't tell him that until it's too late for him to back out!
The bridge opens in days.  Most people are excited.  You seem irritated.  Why?  The bridge is opening now — that's the actual news.  I'm not obligated to let misstatements sit uncorrected.
Many people will be very displeased if it does not open this month.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)

kphoger

Quote from: Beltway on July 17, 2026, 03:03:37 PMMany people will be very displeased if it does not open this month.

Yeah, well, some people are ingratifiable.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Beltway

Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2026, 03:17:10 PM
Quote from: Beltway on July 17, 2026, 03:03:37 PMMany people will be very displeased if it does not open this month.
Yeah, well, some people are ingratifiable.
Some people are insatisfiable.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)

wanderer2575

Okay, moving on...  It's hard to get a photo through the fencing in the small open area here, but these overhead signs on the U.S. side past the Customs/Immigration booths look like Ontario design (the arrows and overhead light structures).  Bummer that M-10 wasn't included on the Freeways sign.

Also:  "X Ray"?


kalvado

Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 17, 2026, 07:49:12 PMOkay, moving on...  It's hard to get a photo through the fencing in the small open area here, but these overhead signs on the U.S. side past the Customs/Immigration booths look like Ontario design (the arrows and overhead light structures).  Bummer that M-10 wasn't included on the Freeways sign.

Also:  "X Ray"?


Xray may refer to customs equipment for truck inspection.

vdeane

Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2026, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 17, 2026, 10:50:03 AMAre Canadians trying to shoot themselves in the foot?  If you bamboozle Trump into thinking he made some genius deal that was really just the same deal that existed before, you don't tell him that until it's too late for him to back out!

The bridge opens in days.  Most people are excited.  You seem irritated.  Why?  The bridge is opening now — that's the actual news.  I'm not obligated to let misstatements sit uncorrected.
There's still 10 days for Trump to decide that it won't open after all.  I wouldn't consider the matter settled until traffic is moving across the bridge - and maybe not even then.  I feel like the saying "don't poke the bear" applies here.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

kphoger

Quote from: kalvado on July 17, 2026, 08:03:35 PMXray may refer to customs equipment for truck inspection.

That was my assumption too.  Still a weird message to actually put on the sign, though.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

The Ghostbuster

Trump should take a "hands-off" approach to the opening of the bridge.

hbelkins

Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 17, 2026, 07:49:12 PMOkay, moving on...  It's hard to get a photo through the fencing in the small open area here, but these overhead signs on the U.S. side past the Customs/Immigration booths look like Ontario design (the arrows and overhead light structures).  Bummer that M-10 wasn't included on the Freeways sign.

Also:  "X Ray"?



Yeah, I would expect Clearview for Michigan.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

oscar

#639
Quote from: kalvado on July 17, 2026, 08:03:35 PMXray may refer to customs equipment for truck inspection.

Mexican border agents for some reason ran my old pickup truck (long deceased) through a giant X-ray machine (or at least pretended to do so). I think this was at one of the Ciudad Juarez crossings. That was sometime in 2007 or later, when I transitioned from film cameras to digital, so fogging exposed film was not an issue. To be fair, my truck did kind of look like an ideal vehicle for smuggling guns or other contraband.

I agree with Valerie about whether the bridge opening might be called off (maybe by Carney, rather than by Chump) in view of the new tariffs. Also, the Moro(u)n family could try some last-ditch ploy to delay the opening some more.

I was in northeastern Indiana for this year's Extra Miler Club meeting. If the opening had not been delayed until next weekend, I could've clinched the Gordie Howe bridge yesterday.
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uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

Sani

I don't think the Canadians will postpone the bridge opening because of the new tariffs Trump announced. They don't want to stoop to his level.

kalvado

Quote from: Sani on July 21, 2026, 12:32:46 PMI don't think the Canadians will postpone the bridge opening because of the new tariffs Trump announced. They don't want to stoop to his level.
But tolls can be subject to tariffs, maybe?

webny99

Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 17, 2026, 07:49:12 PMBummer that M-10 wasn't included on the Freeways sign.

OTOH, I don't think much traffic from the bridge will be connecting to M-10, especially long distance traffic. Most trucks will be heading south/west and if anything would use M-39 to connect to I-94.

ElishaGOtis

Quote from: webny99 on July 21, 2026, 03:33:23 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 17, 2026, 07:49:12 PMBummer that M-10 wasn't included on the Freeways sign.

OTOH, I don't think much traffic from the bridge will be connecting to M-10, especially long distance traffic. Most trucks will be heading south/west and if anything would use M-39 to connect to I-94.

I think I've said this before, but I'm surprised that ON-401 isn't on the US-side signs.
I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

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MikeTheActuary

Quote from: Sani on July 21, 2026, 12:32:46 PMI don't think the Canadians will postpone the bridge opening because of the new tariffs Trump announced. They don't want to stoop to his level.

Bridge opening still seems on track, but US officials have been disinvited from the Canadian opening ceremonies.

ElishaGOtis

#646
https://apnews.com/article/canada-us-gordie-howe-bridge-trump-9327c97c42ca4a2343f337c7b30e7375



GRRRRRRRRRRRR

:banghead:

EDIT: I did a stupid and severely misinterpreted the article... my bad :banghead:
I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

NOTE: Opinions expressed here on AARoads are solely my own and do not represent or reflect the statements, opinions, or decisions of any agency. Any official information I share will be quoted or specified from another source.

My ideal speed limits (FAKE/FICTIONAL NOT OFFICIAL) :
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1Ia4RR_BaYyzgJq4n3JcYzkNZjLYKzGQ

vdeane

Quote from: ElishaGOtis on July 21, 2026, 10:05:43 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/canada-us-gordie-howe-bridge-trump-9327c97c42ca4a2343f337c7b30e7375



GRRRRRRRRRRRR

:banghead:
Did you read the article?  Canada cancelled the joint ceremony, not the opening.

Quote from: APCanada now plans to hold its own ceremony Friday. It is now unclear whether the United States will hold a separate ceremony.

Two U.S. officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations said they still expect the bridge to open to traffic July 27 but are less certain than they were before.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

ElishaGOtis

Quote from: vdeane on July 21, 2026, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on July 21, 2026, 10:05:43 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/canada-us-gordie-howe-bridge-trump-9327c97c42ca4a2343f337c7b30e7375



GRRRRRRRRRRRR

:banghead:
Did you read the article?  Canada cancelled the joint ceremony, not the opening.

Quote from: APCanada now plans to hold its own ceremony Friday. It is now unclear whether the United States will hold a separate ceremony.

Two U.S. officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations said they still expect the bridge to open to traffic July 27 but are less certain than they were before.

Crap you're right I fell for media overblown Krupp once again  :ded:

My bad...

I actually did read the article but missed that one part 💀
I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

NOTE: Opinions expressed here on AARoads are solely my own and do not represent or reflect the statements, opinions, or decisions of any agency. Any official information I share will be quoted or specified from another source.

My ideal speed limits (FAKE/FICTIONAL NOT OFFICIAL) :
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1Ia4RR_BaYyzgJq4n3JcYzkNZjLYKzGQ

kalvado

Quote from: vdeane on July 21, 2026, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on July 21, 2026, 10:05:43 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/canada-us-gordie-howe-bridge-trump-9327c97c42ca4a2343f337c7b30e7375



GRRRRRRRRRRRR

:banghead:
Did you read the article?  Canada cancelled the joint ceremony, not the opening.

Quote from: APCanada now plans to hold its own ceremony Friday. It is now unclear whether the United States will hold a separate ceremony.

Two U.S. officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations said they still expect the bridge to open to traffic July 27 but are less certain than they were before.
There are still 5 days to change all the arrangements again.