__________ is/are overrated.

[formulanone]

Beck

[kphoger]

Beck

I do like the album Odelay.

His dad sure has had the interesting musical career.

[Rothman]

Andrew Lloyd Webber

Sondheim is worse.

I'm not so sure.  There are Webber songs that grate on my ears due to being products of their time.

Sondheim just isn't for everyone.

[formulanone]

Beck

I do like the album Odelay.

His dad sure has had the interesting musical career.

I feel that almost every song is about one of three things...

- that girl won't pay attention to me

- we're too cool for this planet

- that white trash guy is on drugs and doesn't know he's weird/hopeless/reeks of piss

[JayhawkCO]

Beck

Honestly, I'd put him in the underrated category. I don't think he's all that rated at all.

From Mellow Gold through Odelay and then onto Midnite Vultures (my favorite), his sound changes a lot but it still very clearly Beck.

[Rothman]

Yeah, Beck seems properly rated to me.

When I was back in college a friend of mine, watching Beck's "Loser" video, declared him a one-hit wonder. 

Whoops.

[thenetwork]

The college sports "Transfer Portal".

Makes it sound like a college athlete CANNOT be successful unless they go through the portal at least once.

And the term "transfer portal" sounds like they go through some Star Trek "wormhole" and magically appear on the new campus.

[kphoger]

Nutmeg

[JayhawkCO]

Nutmeg

I feel like it's not even used now unless in a pumpkin pie spice blend. Allspice is, however, underrated.

[Rothman]

Nutmeg

No.  It's my favorite.

[kphoger]

Allspice is, however, underrated.

I totally agree.  However, my wife doesn't care for it very much, so I have to be careful how much I put in.

[kphoger]

Using the word "allegedly" in news reporting.

It's not a magic word that makes your sentence more accurate.  It's not always the right word to use.  In fact, sometimes using it makes your sentence less correct.  For example, in an article in TheTravel about a recent incident at Disney World, I ran across the following sentence:

"The victim says the U.K. man, Keith Richard Newman, allegedly pushed her."

No.  That's wrong.  The girl didn't say that Newman allegedly pushed her.  She said that he did in fact push her.

Right:  The victim says the U.K. man pushed her.
Right:  The victim alleges the U.K. man pushed her.
Wrong:  The victim says the U.K. man allegedly pushed her.

[mgk920]

Whenever I see or hear some form of the word 'allege', I think 'lawyers'.

 

Mike

[hbelkins]

Using the word "allegedly" in news reporting.

It's not a magic word that makes your sentence more accurate.  It's not always the right word to use.  In fact, sometimes using it makes your sentence less correct.  For example, in an article in TheTravel about a recent incident at Disney World, I ran across the following sentence:

"The victim says the U.K. man, Keith Richard Newman, allegedly pushed her."

No.  That's wrong.  The girl didn't say that Newman allegedly pushed her.  She said that he did in fact push her.

Right:  The victim says the U.K. man pushed her.
Right:  The victim alleges the U.K. man pushed her.
Wrong:  The victim says the U.K. man allegedly pushed her.

There is an entire lengthy entry in the AP Stylebook about the word "allege" which starts out, "The word must be used with great care." I don't feel like retyping the whole thing, but this link provides a pretty good summary of what AP style calls for when using the word: https://writingexplained.org/ap-style/ap-style-allege

[formulanone]

Using the word "allegedly" in news reporting.

Whenever I hear "...allegedly...", I think:
Nope, come back when you have more concrete data and proof. Stop being lazy. Slow news day. Bye.

[Scott5114]

Using the word "allegedly" in news reporting.

Whenever I hear "...allegedly...", I think:
Nope, come back when you have more concrete data and proof. Stop being lazy. Slow news day. Bye.

Eh, sometimes that's not possible, because the mere fact there are allegations can sometimes be enough to cause something newsworthy to happen. Two cases in point from California over the past few months: Cesar Chavez and Eric Swalwell were both alleged of misconduct, and while in neither case have those things been conclusively proven in court (because Chavez is dead and because in Swalwell's case the allegations are new enough that there hasn't been time for an investigation and arraignment), they still had consequences (Chavez's name was stripped from various places of honor, and Swalwell was forced to resign from Congress and drop out of the governor's election).

[hbelkins]

Using the word "allegedly" in news reporting.

Whenever I hear "...allegedly...", I think:
Nope, come back when you have more concrete data and proof. Stop being lazy. Slow news day. Bye.

Eh, sometimes that's not possible, because the mere fact there are allegations can sometimes be enough to cause something newsworthy to happen. Two cases in point from California over the past few months: Cesar Chavez and Eric Swalwell were both alleged of misconduct, and while in neither case have those things been conclusively proven in court (because Chavez is dead and because in Swalwell's case the allegations are new enough that there hasn't been time for an investigation and arraignment), they still had consequences (Chavez's name was stripped from various places of honor, and Swalwell was forced to resign from Congress and drop out of the governor's election).

I'm going to pedantly nitpick that statement. They were accused of misconduct, not alleged of. Or they were alleged to have conducted themselves inappropriately.

[kphoger]

An allegation is like an accusation, except with zero proof.

I can allege that Hays B. Elkins is breeding sperm whales in his backyard, but I cannot make an accusation of the same without some shred of proof.

[Scott5114]

Using the word "allegedly" in news reporting.

Whenever I hear "...allegedly...", I think:
Nope, come back when you have more concrete data and proof. Stop being lazy. Slow news day. Bye.

Eh, sometimes that's not possible, because the mere fact there are allegations can sometimes be enough to cause something newsworthy to happen. Two cases in point from California over the past few months: Cesar Chavez and Eric Swalwell were both alleged of misconduct, and while in neither case have those things been conclusively proven in court (because Chavez is dead and because in Swalwell's case the allegations are new enough that there hasn't been time for an investigation and arraignment), they still had consequences (Chavez's name was stripped from various places of honor, and Swalwell was forced to resign from Congress and drop out of the governor's election).

I'm going to pedantly nitpick that statement. They were accused of misconduct, not alleged of. Or they were alleged to have conducted themselves inappropriately.

So you're accusing me of allegedly misusing "alleged"? That's quite an accusation. Or allegation. Allegedly.

[kphoger]

So you're accusing me of allegedly misusing "alleged"? That's quite an accusation. Or allegation. Allegedly.

He made an allegation, but it was in an accusatory tone of voice, so authorities are looking into it.

[1995hoo]

This discussion is making me recall the distinction between a "suggestion" and an "accusation" in the board game Clue, but it's been at least 25 years since I last played that, probably more, so I don't really remember the details of how that worked.

[JayhawkCO]

This discussion is making me recall the distinction between a "suggestion" and an "accusation" in the board game Clue, but it's been at least 25 years since I last played that, probably more, so I don't really remember the details of how that worked.

Suggestion is picking a person, a weapon, and a room. All opposing players must show you one card of what you asked (if able) to prove that that combo couldn't be correct. An accusation is "going for the win" where you say that your combo is what's in the little envelope.

[kphoger]

Suggestion is picking a person, a weapon, and a room. All opposing players must show you one card of what you asked (if able) to prove that that combo couldn't be correct. An accusation is "going for the win" where you say that your combo is what's in the little envelope.

Allegedly.

[Scott5114]

A couple of weeks ago the University of Nevada Las Vegas radio station was promoting a live adaptation of the 1980s Clue movie. Except it was a burlesque adaptation, where the weapon each character had was concealed under their clothes, and then revealed by them doing a striptease.

[Max Rockatansky]

A couple of weeks ago the University of Nevada Las Vegas radio station was promoting a live adaptation of the 1980s Clue movie. Except it was a burlesque adaptation, where the weapon each character had was concealed under their clothes, and then revealed by them doing a striptease.

Bringing a whole new definition to Professor Plum smacking Mr. Body upside the head with his lead pipe.