__________ is/are underrated.

[kkt]

You think that's something? On March 8, we will gain a whole hour of evening daylight in one day. And I for one can't wait.

And we'll lose one hour of morning daylight in one day, and I for one will hate it.

For Seattle on March 7, civil twilight starts at 6:07 AM.  I'm happy to trade that in for civil twilight starting at 7:06 AM on March 8 and an extra hour of light in the evening.

[kphoger]

Wait...are we talking about...DST?

No.  What gave you that impression?

[Scott5114]

You think that's something? On March 8, we will gain a whole hour of evening daylight in one day. And I for one can't wait.

And we'll lose one hour of morning daylight in one day, and I for one will hate it.

I am actually excited to lose morning daylight. Being on the east end of the Pacific time zone, it gets light insanely early in Las Vegas. I wasn't really thinking things through when I set up my office, so right now when I'm sitting at my computer I'm facing southeast toward an east-facing window, so if I'm working late on something, I get blasted directly in the face by the full strength of the desert sun once it makes it over Sunrise Mountain at 6am or so. And my bedroom also has an east-facing window, so it's obnoxiously bright when I try to go to sleep after that.

(On my to do list is to rearrange the furniture so I face southwest instead.)

[Rothman]

I can't stand the whiplash.  Starts to get brighter and all of a sudden, we're in the dark again.  For no reason.  Rather have morning darkness last longer and have more afternoon/evening sun, especially after work.

[Max Rockatansky]

I like running before sunrise.  For some reason I tend to get headaches in daylight.  It also feels like I am running way slower than I actually am.

[JayhawkCO]

I like running before sunrise.  For some reason I tend to get headaches in daylight.  It also feels like I am running way slower than I actually am.

Plus, as someone who dislikes running in even warm weather, the same temp before sunrise feels much nicer than when it's shining.

[Max Rockatansky]

I like running before sunrise.  For some reason I tend to get headaches in daylight.  It also feels like I am running way slower than I actually am.

Plus, as someone who dislikes running in even warm weather, the same temp before sunrise feels much nicer than when it's shining.

The water intake before and during the run is often considerably lower, especially in the summer.

[bugo]

I fucking hate the twice-yearly time change. I have sleep apnea, insomnia, hypersomnia and sleep inertia, and my sleep health is terrible. Skewing the day by one hour fucks with my sleep patterns and is hell on my circadian rhythms and my sleep quality decreases significantly. I am out of whack for months, and when I start to get used to the new time, it changes again. It screws up my entire day, and makes me far less productive. Mine is an extreme example, but even those without sleep disorders are also less effective around the time changes. Since we live in a capitalist society where nothing matters besides money and everything is measured in dollars and cents, I should mention that the clock changes cost billions of dollars, and has a negative impact on most of the economy. Changing the clock might have made a tiny bit of sense 150 years ago, but there is no good reason to change it today. I don't care if they keep standard time or if they switch to daylight saving time, as long as they pick one and stick to it. Hell, I don't care if the whole world goes to GMT, as long as they don't change the clocks twice a year. I find it funny that out of all of those who are screaming about the US converting to metric, I rarely hear anybody advocate switching to GMT and military time. It would be startling at first and would take a couple of generations for most of the country to get used to it, but it would benefit society greatly if the whole world were one time zone.

Speaking of daylight saving time, I have worked at a bunch of call centers. There is usually a lot of chatter and the floors are loud, and you can easily hear what the other agents are saying. I have heard agents say "Central Standard Time" in the summer more times than I have heard "Central Daylight Time". I am kind of pedantic, so I sometimes remind them that it isn't standard time, but they still do it. Just a pet peeve of mine.

[1995hoo]

Speaking of daylight saving time, I have worked at a bunch of call centers. There is usually a lot of chatter and the floors are loud, and you can easily hear what the other agents are saying. I have heard agents say "Central Standard Time" in the summer more times than I have heard "Central Daylight Time". I am kind of pedantic, so I sometimes remind them that it isn't standard time, but they still do it. Just a pet peeve of mine.

I've known a lot of people who will use "EST" year-round because they think they're being precise. I remember once, just to be a smartarse, I responded to one of them (someone I knew well) when she said a conference call would be at "3:00 pm EST." I asked her whether that meant the call was at 4:00 for those of us in DC and New York. She didn't understand what I meant and she repeated "3:00 pm EST." I then explained that because EDT was in effect, the time she was referring to was actually 4:00. I don't think she understood that either.

[kkt]

The time change is good.  With the time change, I am doing what I would be do with no clock and what the animals do anyway:  waking up when it gets light enough to see.

[Rothman]

Reg E. Cathey

[kphoger]

I've known a lot of people who will use "EST" year-round because they think they're being precise. I remember once, just to be a smartarse, I responded to one of them (someone I knew well) when she said a conference call would be at "3:00 pm EST." I asked her whether that meant the call was at 4:00 for those of us in DC and New York. She didn't understand what I meant and she repeated "3:00 pm EST." I then explained that because EDT was in effect, the time she was referring to was actually 4:00. I don't think she understood that either.

My former boss was like that.  He'd say "Central Standard Time".  I'd tell him, "you mean Central Daylight Time".  He'd respond with "Central Standard Daylight Time", as if that's a thing.

[1995hoo]

For some reason, this exchange is making me recall a book I read as a little kid in which something happened at the beach at some time "EST," which the author then said meant "Empty Sea Time." I'm thinking maybe the book was Fat Men from Space, although I don't remember for sure. I looked up the list of that author's books and the only other title I remember was The Hoboken Chicken Emergency, but then the level of reading in those books made them the sort of thing I would have read in kindergarten or first grade.

[formulanone]

Is there a word for: "I never remember which Time is which, so I don't care and therefore it doesn't bother me"?

Apathy seems too strong.

In the end, I like having more sunlight for photography after work, that's all I care about.

[mgk920]

'Time zones' were a 19th century innovation, set up to make sense of railroad schedules. 'Daylight Saving(NO 's') time' was an 18th century idea from Ben Franklin, devised as a way of saving energy (candle wax) by 'saving daylight', but first widely adopted in the 20th century as a WWI wartime expedient.  Now, why does the USA military (especially the USNavy) use 24h 'Zulu' time?

Mike

[GaryV]

Now, why does the USA military (especially the USNavy) use 24h 'Zulu' time?

Is this for the "worst answer" thread?  If so,

Because they learned their lessons:

• From Around the World in 80 Days and don't want to be a day early if they go all the way eastward.
• From the British Navy in colonial Australia who insisted the sailors wear their winter uniforms in July because "it's summer".

[kphoger]

'Daylight Saving(NO 's') time' was an 18th century idea from Ben Franklin

No.

Ben Franklin sarcastically suggested in an essay in the Journal of Paris that forcing lazy Parisians to get out of bed earlier in the summer would save on candle wax (and lamp oil) in the evenings.  He suggested that firing cannons in the street would help accomplish this, and that candle wax purchases should be police-enforced to one pound weekly, and that citizens should be taxed based on how many of their windows had shutters on them.  Need it be said, that he wasn't actually serious?

George Hudson, of New Zealand, is generally regarded to have been the first proponent of actual Daylight Saving Time—111 years after Ben Franklin's essay.

[vdeane]

the only other title I remember was The Hoboken Chicken Emergency

I think I prefer It Came from Schenectady for titles that reference random real-world places.

Ben Franklin sarcastically suggested in an essay in the Journal of Paris that forcing lazy Parisians to get out of bed earlier in the summer would save on candle wax (and lamp oil) in the evenings.  He suggested that firing cannons in the street would help accomplish this, and that candle wax purchases should be police-enforced to one pound weekly, and that citizens should be taxed based on how many of their windows had shutters on them.

Was he reincarnated as Admiral Boom?

[formulanone]

'Time zones' were a 19th century innovation, set up to make sense of railroad schedules.

Before the locomotive, it took all day (and then some) to travel any distance that would eventually encompass a time zone, so being off by an hour didn't mean much.

Unless you were a bird or pterodactyl, but they weren't using timepieces back then.

[Rothman]

'Time zones' were a 19th century innovation, set up to make sense of railroad schedules.

Before the locomotive, it took all day (and then some) to travel any distance that would eventually encompass a time zone, so being off by an hour didn't mean much.

Unless you were a bird or pterodactyl, but they weren't using timepieces back then.

Before the locomotive?  Getting from NY to the Chicago area took weeks...

[formulanone]

'Time zones' were a 19th century innovation, set up to make sense of railroad schedules.

Before the locomotive, it took all day (and then some) to travel any distance that would eventually encompass a time zone, so being off by an hour didn't mean much.

Unless you were a bird or pterodactyl, but they weren't using timepieces back then.

Before the locomotive?  Getting from NY to the Chicago area took weeks...

Should have booked a pterodactyl

[kphoger]

as if that's a thing

In a recent e-mail at work:

For assistance contact customer service at 1-888-###-#### business hours Monday–Friday, 9am–5pm Arizona Time.

[hotdogPi]

as if that's a thing

In a recent e-mail at work:

For assistance contact customer service at 1-888-###-#### business hours Monday–Friday, 9am–5pm Arizona Time.

That is probably to indicate they don't change for daylight savings.

[Max Rockatansky]

as if that's a thing

In a recent e-mail at work:

For assistance contact customer service at 1-888-###-#### business hours Monday–Friday, 9am–5pm Arizona Time.

That is probably to indicate they don't change for daylight savings.

I miss living on Arizona time.  Always having a consistent sundown later in the day was nice.

[kphoger]

I miss living on Arizona time.

Arizona time?  Sure, OK.

Arizona Time?  Doesn't exist.