2025 College Football Season

[NWI_Irish96]

I'm bothered more by individual players opting out of bowl games than I am entire teams opting not to play. If an individual decides not to participate in their team's bowl game, they're letting their teammates down.

What teammate is so selfish enough that he would demand a likely high round NFL draft pick risk injury to be his teammate in what's essentially an exhibition game?

Players really don't care about other players opting out. If anything, it gives playing time to guys they may need to become starters next year.

[thspfc]

I have it on very good word

Who?

[NWI_Irish96]

I have it on very good word

Who?

Media who cover the program on site daily.

Update: It was also said by the AD at his press conference today.

[SEWIGuy]

You should see Division 3. Schools are members of multiple conferences simply because their "main" conference doesn't sponsor that sport. For example, Aurora University in Illinois main conference is the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference, but it plays hockey in the Northern Collegiate Hockey Association and wrestles in the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin.

[JayhawkCO]

You should see Division 3. Schools are members of multiple conferences simply because their "main" conference doesn't sponsor that sport. For example, Aurora University in Illinois main conference is the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference, but it plays hockey in the Northern Collegiate Hockey Association and wrestles in the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin.

You don't have to go all the way to Division III.

University of Alaska-Fairbanks
Basketball - Great Northwest Athletic Conference (DII)
Ice Hockey - Independent (formerly CCHA) (DI)
Skiing - Rocky Mountain Intercollegiate Ski Association (DII)
Rifle - Patriot Rifle Conference (DII)
(Women's) Swimming - Pacific Collegiate Swimming & Diving Conference (DII)

[CoreySamson]

You should see Division 3. Schools are members of multiple conferences simply because their "main" conference doesn't sponsor that sport. For example, Aurora University in Illinois main conference is the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference, but it plays hockey in the Northern Collegiate Hockey Association and wrestles in the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin.

You don't have to go all the way to Division III.

University of Alaska-Fairbanks
Basketball - Great Northwest Athletic Conference (DII)
Ice Hockey - Independent (formerly CCHA) (DI)
Skiing - Rocky Mountain Intercollegiate Ski Association (DII)
Rifle - Patriot Rifle Conference (DII)
(Women's) Swimming - Pacific Collegiate Swimming & Diving Conference (DII)

Heck, even D1 has this same issue.

In the Summit League where my Golden Eagles play, they recently added Delaware and UMass to the conference in men's soccer because Conference USA and the MAC do not sponsor it.

[DTComposer]

You should see Division 3. Schools are members of multiple conferences simply because their "main" conference doesn't sponsor that sport. For example, Aurora University in Illinois main conference is the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference, but it plays hockey in the Northern Collegiate Hockey Association and wrestles in the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin.

You don't have to go all the way to Division III.

University of Alaska-Fairbanks
Basketball - Great Northwest Athletic Conference (DII)
Ice Hockey - Independent (formerly CCHA) (DI)
Skiing - Rocky Mountain Intercollegiate Ski Association (DII)
Rifle - Patriot Rifle Conference (DII)
(Women's) Swimming - Pacific Collegiate Swimming & Diving Conference (DII)

Heck, even D1 has this same issue.

In the Summit League where my Golden Eagles play, they recently added Delaware and UMass to the conference in men's soccer because Conference USA and the MAC do not sponsor it.

It's very common-
Johns Hopkins (Centennial) plays in the Big Ten for Lacrosse
Florida State (ACC), Boise State (MWC), South Carolina (SEC) play in the Big 12 for Volleyball
UC Davis (Big West), San Diego State (MWC), Florida (SEC), play in the Big 12 for Lacrosse

Then there's conferences like the Mountain Pacific Sports Federation that exist as a catch-all for schools for Olympic sports (gymnastics, swimming, track and field etc.) - there's 65 members from the MWC, Big 12, SEC, WAC, Big West, Big Sky, ACC, Big Ten, D2 and D3 schools, etc.

[mgk920]

Make the players all employees at union scale will also fully apply WRT Title IX, making mens' football, and the athletic departments in general, unaffordable to all but a VERY FEW schools.

Mike

[hotdogPi]

I've mentioned this before and there's been some pushback, but what about a Swiss tournament?

Conferences go away entirely. After week 4 (so that teams that play against each other every year due to tradition can still do so), each team plays another team with the same record (or as close to it as possible). I would make one modification, and that is that regarding the teams with the same record, the matchups would be chosen to minimize travel distance. Playoffs are determined mathematically and solely by record, with opponents' average win percentage being the tiebreaker.

[NWI_Irish96]

I've mentioned this before and there's been some pushback, but what about a Swiss tournament?

Conferences go away entirely. After week 4 (so that teams that play against each other every year due to tradition can still do so), each team plays another team with the same record (or as close to it as possible). I would make one modification, and that is that regarding the teams with the same record, the matchups would be chosen to minimize travel distance. Playoffs are determined mathematically and solely by record, with opponents' average win percentage being the tiebreaker.

I don't think teams, fans and broadcast partners could deal with that much uncertainty in scheduling.

It would still be a stretch, but you might be able to do something like that after 8-10 games, but no way it would work after 4.

[SEWIGuy]

Make the players all employees at union scale will also fully apply WRT Title IX, making mens' football, and the athletic departments in general, unaffordable to all but a VERY FEW schools.

The players are already getting paid though.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Michigan has dismissed Sherrone Moore after an alleged inappropriate relationship with a staff member. I think a lot of Michigan fans were eager to see him get let go anyway.

[Max Rockatansky]

Michigan has dismissed Sherrone Moore after an alleged inappropriate relationship with a staff member. I think a lot of Michigan fans were eager to see him get let go anyway.

He earned a shot after 2023.  The offense left a lot to be desired and should have been way better this year.  This probably just sped up the inevitable by a year.

[NWI_Irish96]

Michigan has dismissed Sherrone Moore after an alleged inappropriate relationship with a staff member. I think a lot of Michigan fans were eager to see him get let go anyway.

Brian Kelly and Michigan deserve each other very much.

[thspfc]

I remember this part from the Manifesto.

[Max Rockatansky]

Apparently the staffer Moore was having an affair with is Paige Shiver:

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/paige-shivers-breaks-internet-michigan-025358593.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

And Moore has been arrested on suspicion of involvement in some of assault:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47271571/ex-michigan-coach-moore-custody-county-jail-firing

[JayhawkCO]

Apparently the staffer Moore was having an affair with is Paige Shiver:

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/paige-shivers-breaks-internet-michigan-025358593.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

And Moore has been arrested on suspicion of involvement in some of assault:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47271571/ex-michigan-coach-moore-custody-county-jail-firing

Did he try to beat the shit out of whoever leaked that he was sleeping with her?

[Max Rockatansky]

Apparently the staffer Moore was having an affair with is Paige Shiver:

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/paige-shivers-breaks-internet-michigan-025358593.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

And Moore has been arrested on suspicion of involvement in some of assault:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47271571/ex-michigan-coach-moore-custody-county-jail-firing

Did he try to beat the shit out of whoever leaked that he was sleeping with her?

I haven't read anything solid/trustworthy on what exactly happened.  But yeah, it there is a lot of conjecture on social media about that and several other serious things. 

[thspfc]

Read this today about Michigan

The issue is patterns. Sherrone Moore deleted all those texts from Stallions from his phone. So clearly he was okay with lying and cheating. He was promoted internally to be the Head Coach anyway.

Then yeah it turns out he is a liar and a cheater outside of football too. Michigan: *shocked pikachu face*

Obviously the actual scandals are very different, but it certainly speaks to the type of person Harbaugh was bringing in and the culture he was fostering.

7 staffers arrested since Harbaugh was hired in 2015? That's a culture.

That culture included the sign stealing scandal, DUIs, infidelity and abuse of power, and a freaking hacking pervert to top it off.

the "Michigan Man" angle is a total lie.

[wanderer2575]

I haven't read anything solid/trustworthy on what exactly happened.  But yeah, it there is a lot of conjecture on social media about that and several other serious things. 

You just described social media.

[Max Rockatansky]

I haven't read anything solid/trustworthy on what exactly happened.  But yeah, it there is a lot of conjecture on social media about that and several other serious things. 

You just described social media.

And to that end I've still yet to an actual news agency report on exactly what happened.  Supposedly Moore will be in court tomorrow and likely details will be released to media.

[gonealookin]

I haven't read anything solid/trustworthy on what exactly happened.  But yeah, it there is a lot of conjecture on social media about that and several other serious things. 

You just described social media.

And to that end I've still yet to an actual news agency report on exactly what happened.  Supposedly Moore will be in court tomorrow and likely details will be released to media.

The stuff that's leaking out is pretty nasty.

I remember when the University of San Francisco suspended its basketball program after a series of ugly episodes that culminated in the rape of a student by one of the star players (early 1980s).  USF basketball had been a nationally-prominent program for a long time before that, from Bill Russell to Bill Cartwright, and it has never been the same in the 40 years or so since they resumed playing basketball.

That the situation in Ann Arbor is bad enough to remind me of that is pretty rough.  There's way, way, way too much money at stake for the University of Michigan or whoever the governing authorities are (Big Ten Conference, NCAA, Fox Sports) to consider giving Michigan football the "Death Penalty", and in any case a big public institution is much different that a small private/religious school like USF, but anybody who considers ethics a priority over money (ha ha) might give that some thought.

[Ted$8roadFan]

2025 has already been one of the most chaotic seasons ever for college football. And it isn't over.

[Max Rockatansky]

Sherrone Moore formally charged according to the Detroit Free Press:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ex-michigan-coach-sherrone-moore-174501942.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

The charges include:

One count of third-degree felony home invasion, a felony.

One count misdemeanor stalking related to a domestic relationship.

One count misdemeanor breaking and entering.

[Max Rockatansky]

And ESPN now has a summary of the events leading to the arrest:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47286996/fired-michigan-coach-sherrone-moore-charged-three-crimes

And seriously, butter knives?