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USA Toll Transponder Interoperability - 2026 edition

Started by SSOWorld, February 04, 2024, 10:14:40 AM

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vdeane

Quote from: kphoger on September 17, 2026, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 17, 2026, 12:39:42 PMAt this point, I'm feeling like interoperability between Canada and the US is probably less likely than it was before.  With Canada trying to become less reliant on the US and align more closely to the EU, interoperability almost feels like a political step backwards.

interoperability ≠ dependence
It's still more integration, and many younger Canadians especially would like to cut ties.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.


kalvado

Quote from: kphoger on September 17, 2026, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 17, 2026, 12:39:42 PMAt this point, I'm feeling like interoperability between Canada and the US is probably less likely than it was before.  With Canada trying to become less reliant on the US and align more closely to the EU, interoperability almost feels like a political step backwards.

interoperability ≠ dependence
But traffic counts = interoperability benefits

Rothman

Quote from: kalvado on September 17, 2026, 07:35:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 17, 2026, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 17, 2026, 12:39:42 PMAt this point, I'm feeling like interoperability between Canada and the US is probably less likely than it was before.  With Canada trying to become less reliant on the US and align more closely to the EU, interoperability almost feels like a political step backwards.

interoperability ≠ dependence
But traffic counts = interoperability benefits

Wut.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Great Lakes Roads

From NTTA:
TollTag will be interoperable with the Ohio Turnpike Infrastructure Commission and the Maryland Transportation Authority (MDTA) on September 27th. (That's it from Phase 1)

Phase 2 (Q1 2027)- RI, MN, Niagara Falls Bridge Commission, KY, United Bridge Partners/Cline Avenue Bridge, VA, NJTPA, SJTA, Delaware River Port Authority, Delaware River & Bay Authority, Burlington County Bridge Commission, Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission

Phase 3 (TBD 2027)- NH, ME, DE, GA, WV, NY *Harris County for E-ZPass
-Jay Seaburg

Clinched States (Interstates): AL, AZ, DE, FL, HI, KS, MI, MN, NE, NH, RI, VT, WI

kalvado

Quote from: Rothman on September 17, 2026, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: kalvado on September 17, 2026, 07:35:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 17, 2026, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 17, 2026, 12:39:42 PMAt this point, I'm feeling like interoperability between Canada and the US is probably less likely than it was before.  With Canada trying to become less reliant on the US and align more closely to the EU, interoperability almost feels like a political step backwards.

interoperability ≠ dependence
But traffic counts = interoperability benefits

Wut.
In simple terms - there will be no reason for interoperability when the border around Lake America is closed.

hotdogPi

Quote from: kalvado on September 18, 2026, 07:41:07 AM
Quote from: Rothman on September 17, 2026, 09:03:17 PMcollapsed four-level quote stack
In simple terms - there will be no reason for interoperability when the border around Lake America is closed.

The only reason there is no traffic around the border of Lake America is because there is no such thing as Lake America.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 35, 40, 53, 63, 79, 109, 126, 138, 141, 151
NH 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 40, 366; CT 193, 320; VT 2A, 5A; ME 11, 17, 172; PA 3, 51, 60; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

ElishaGOtis

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on September 18, 2026, 12:41:11 AMFrom NTTA:
TollTag will be interoperable with the Ohio Turnpike Infrastructure Commission and the Maryland Transportation Authority (MDTA) on September 27th. (That's it from Phase 1)

Phase 2 (Q1 2027)- RI, MN, Niagara Falls Bridge Commission, KY, United Bridge Partners/Cline Avenue Bridge, VA, NJTPA, SJTA, Delaware River Port Authority, Delaware River & Bay Authority, Burlington County Bridge Commission, Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission

Phase 3 (TBD 2027)- NH, ME, DE, GA, WV, NY *Harris County for E-ZPass

Where's CFX in this? :(
I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

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https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1Ia4RR_BaYyzgJq4n3JcYzkNZjLYKzGQ

Radem

Quote from: ElishaGOtis on September 18, 2026, 10:01:23 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on September 18, 2026, 12:41:11 AMFrom NTTA:
TollTag will be interoperable with the Ohio Turnpike Infrastructure Commission and the Maryland Transportation Authority (MDTA) on September 27th. (That's it from Phase 1)

Phase 2 (Q1 2027)- RI, MN, Niagara Falls Bridge Commission, KY, United Bridge Partners/Cline Avenue Bridge, VA, NJTPA, SJTA, Delaware River Port Authority, Delaware River & Bay Authority, Burlington County Bridge Commission, Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission

Phase 3 (TBD 2027)- NH, ME, DE, GA, WV, NY *Harris County for E-ZPass

Where's CFX in this? :(

The CFX FAQ page (https://www.cfxway.com/faqs) only has this information about using those passes on the CFX system:

QuoteWill my Texas TollTag, Kansas K-TAG or Oklahoma PIKEPASS work in Florida?
Yes, on a limited basis. On February 27, these passes will be accepted in Florida on Florida Turnpike Enterprise and FDOT-owned expressways.

CFX will soon accept toll payments for vehicles using the Texas TollTag, Kansas K-TAG and Oklahoma PIKEPASS toll passes on CFX expressways, effective date to be announced.

When using these passes, you will be charged the electronic toll rate.

It does not say anything about using CFX E-Passes on those systems.

Molandfreak

Quote from: hotdogPi on September 18, 2026, 09:18:04 AM
Quote from: kalvado on September 18, 2026, 07:41:07 AM
Quote from: Rothman on September 17, 2026, 09:03:17 PMcollapsed four-level quote stack
In simple terms - there will be no reason for interoperability when the border around Lake America is closed.

The only reason there is no traffic around the border of Lake America is because there is no such thing as Lake America.
There is a Lake America in South Dakota, but no toll roads there!

Inclusive infrastructure advocate

Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of Morrison County, its cities and townships, or affiliated organizations.

SSOWorld

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on September 18, 2026, 12:41:11 AMFrom NTTA:
TollTag will be interoperable with the Ohio Turnpike Infrastructure Commission and the Maryland Transportation Authority (MDTA) on September 27th. (That's it from Phase 1)

Phase 2 (Q1 2027)- RI, MN, Niagara Falls Bridge Commission, KY, United Bridge Partners/Cline Avenue Bridge, VA, NJTPA, SJTA, Delaware River Port Authority, Delaware River & Bay Authority, Burlington County Bridge Commission, Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission

Phase 3 (TBD 2027)- NH, ME, DE, GA, WV, NY *Harris County for E-ZPass
Source?
Scott O.

Not all who wander are lost...
Ah, the open skies, wind at my back, warm sun on my... wait, where the hell am I?!
As a matter of fact, I do own the road.
Raise your what?

Wisconsin - out-multiplexing your state since 1918.

Great Lakes Roads

#460
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 22, 2026, 08:31:25 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on September 18, 2026, 12:41:11 AMFrom NTTA:
TollTag will be interoperable with the Ohio Turnpike Infrastructure Commission and the Maryland Transportation Authority (MDTA) on September 27th. (That's it from Phase 1)

Phase 2 (Q1 2027)- RI, MN, Niagara Falls Bridge Commission, KY, United Bridge Partners/Cline Avenue Bridge, VA, NJTPA, SJTA, Delaware River Port Authority, Delaware River & Bay Authority, Burlington County Bridge Commission, Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission

Phase 3 (TBD 2027)- NH, ME, DE, GA, WV, NY *Harris County for E-ZPass
Source?

https://ntta.new.swagit.com/videos/401308
~7:30 mark in the video of the meeting...
-Jay Seaburg

Clinched States (Interstates): AL, AZ, DE, FL, HI, KS, MI, MN, NE, NH, RI, VT, WI

SSOWorld

Well, they did forget Michigan (Bay City) :rofl:  :awesomeface:
Scott O.

Not all who wander are lost...
Ah, the open skies, wind at my back, warm sun on my... wait, where the hell am I?!
As a matter of fact, I do own the road.
Raise your what?

Wisconsin - out-multiplexing your state since 1918.

ZLoth

#462
Well, as a NTTA user, I'm happy when I can road trip again. However, according to Dallas News at https://www.dallasnews.com/news/transportation/article/ntta-adds-7-new-states-texas-tolltag-network-22442146.php (paywall):

QuoteThe North Texas Tollway Authority is adding toll roads from the Ohio Turnpike and Infrastructure Commission and the Maryland Transportation Authority to its interoperability roster starting Sept. 24.

Last week, NTTA announced six other additions to the TollTag roster: Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, Illinois State Toll Highway Authority, Chicago Skyway, Massachusetts Department of Transportation, North Carolina Turnpike Authority and Indiana Toll Road.

Wenn du siehst, dass ich renne, versuch dranzubleiben!
I solemnly swear that I am up to no good.

Great Lakes Roads

https://pikepass.com/plan-your-trip/interoperability
https://ksturnpike.com/uploads/misc-documents/iOP-list_Sept-25_2026.pdf

PikePass and K-Tag are now accepted in Ohio and Maryland.
Checked the Ohio Turnpike and DriveEzMD websites and it hasn't been updated on their end.
-Jay Seaburg

Clinched States (Interstates): AL, AZ, DE, FL, HI, KS, MI, MN, NE, NH, RI, VT, WI

kphoger

Am I the only one who keeps thinking, —Wow, it's actually... it's actually happening!

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kalvado

Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2026, 09:13:16 AMAm I the only one who keeps thinking, —Wow, it's actually... it's actually happening!
Don't think too much, as it can cause unwanted consequences -  like wrinkles, diarrhea, and dental  issues.

vdeane

I still don't see what the point of doing this all piecemeal is.  Isn't the point of the E-ZPass IAG so that each state that accepts E-ZPass doesn't need to enter into separate agreements with each other state that accepts E-ZPass?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

elsmere241

Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2026, 12:45:55 PMI still don't see what the point of doing this all piecemeal is.  Isn't the point of the E-ZPass IAG so that each state that accepts E-ZPass doesn't need to enter into separate agreements with each other state that accepts E-ZPass?

A while back, my father suggested that every American car have a transponder by default.

kalvado

Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2026, 12:45:55 PMI still don't see what the point of doing this all piecemeal is.  Isn't the point of the E-ZPass IAG so that each state that accepts E-ZPass doesn't need to enter into separate agreements with each other state that accepts E-ZPass?
I'm afraid it's the difference in billing. E.g. visa cards probably have a single interchange point, directing transactions to correct bank. My impression is that EZpass has no such central clearing house, but rather go on mutal agreements within the system. And as the system grows, number of such agreements (and probability of mistakes!) would go up as n^2...
Somewhat similar to cards being same format - but not every bank and not every retailer has to support all of Visa, Master, Discover, Amex... zoo. Except for EZpass now has to support at least 2 tag formats  to make it worse.

cl94

Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2026, 12:45:55 PMI still don't see what the point of doing this all piecemeal is.  Isn't the point of the E-ZPass IAG so that each state that accepts E-ZPass doesn't need to enter into separate agreements with each other state that accepts E-ZPass?

Honestly, I think the bigger reason is that some IAG members are insistent on transponder discrimination, while central hub doesn't allow it. So as long as NY, NJ, MA, and ME insist on charging out of state tags higher rates, you'll never get the IAG to sign on.
Please note: All posts represent my personal opinions and do not represent those of my employer or any of its partner agencies.

kalvado

Quote from: cl94 on September 29, 2026, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2026, 12:45:55 PMI still don't see what the point of doing this all piecemeal is.  Isn't the point of the E-ZPass IAG so that each state that accepts E-ZPass doesn't need to enter into separate agreements with each other state that accepts E-ZPass?

Honestly, I think the bigger reason is that some IAG members are insistent on transponder discrimination, while central hub doesn't allow it. So as long as NY, NJ, MA, and ME insist on charging out of state tags higher rates, you'll never get the IAG to sign on.
I am not really following... Why is that a problem for IAG?

vdeane

Quote from: kalvado on September 29, 2026, 07:06:28 PM
Quote from: cl94 on September 29, 2026, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2026, 12:45:55 PMI still don't see what the point of doing this all piecemeal is.  Isn't the point of the E-ZPass IAG so that each state that accepts E-ZPass doesn't need to enter into separate agreements with each other state that accepts E-ZPass?

Honestly, I think the bigger reason is that some IAG members are insistent on transponder discrimination, while central hub doesn't allow it. So as long as NY, NJ, MA, and ME insist on charging out of state tags higher rates, you'll never get the IAG to sign on.
I am not really following... Why is that a problem for IAG?
My understanding of what cl94 posted is that a direct agreement between the IAG and Central Hub would require the IAG to commit to eliminate transponder discrimination.  Since the states that are part of the IAG would never agree to do that, such an agreement is not possible, so they're working around that by having every Central Hub state make individual deals with every E-ZPass state.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

kalvado

Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2026, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: kalvado on September 29, 2026, 07:06:28 PM
Quote from: cl94 on September 29, 2026, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2026, 12:45:55 PMI still don't see what the point of doing this all piecemeal is.  Isn't the point of the E-ZPass IAG so that each state that accepts E-ZPass doesn't need to enter into separate agreements with each other state that accepts E-ZPass?

Honestly, I think the bigger reason is that some IAG members are insistent on transponder discrimination, while central hub doesn't allow it. So as long as NY, NJ, MA, and ME insist on charging out of state tags higher rates, you'll never get the IAG to sign on.
I am not really following... Why is that a problem for IAG?
My understanding of what cl94 posted is that a direct agreement between the IAG and Central Hub would require the IAG to commit to eliminate transponder discrimination.  Since the states that are part of the IAG would never agree to do that, such an agreement is not possible, so they're working around that by having every Central Hub state make individual deals with every E-ZPass state.
And why eliminating discrimination comes into play? Transponders from other systems are treated equally, local transpoder gets local rate..
There may be something about it in IAG documents, but would be great to know some details.

vdeane

Quote from: kalvado on September 29, 2026, 09:03:57 PMAnd why eliminating discrimination comes into play? Transponders from other systems are treated equally, local transpoder gets local rate..
There may be something about it in IAG documents, but would be great to know some details.
Central Hub doesn't have "local rate" and "everyone else rate".  Just "the rate".  No special deals for in-state transponder users.  Exactly as E-ZPass was when first implemented (beyond commuter plans that replaced the old tokens and are different from state-based transponder discrimination because they are opt-in plans that rarely make sense for infrequent users) and IMO what should be the law of the land nationwide.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

cl94

Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2026, 08:50:44 PMMy understanding of what cl94 posted is that a direct agreement between the IAG and Central Hub would require the IAG to commit to eliminate transponder discrimination.  Since the states that are part of the IAG would never agree to do that, such an agreement is not possible, so they're working around that by having every Central Hub state make individual deals with every E-ZPass state.

This was my point, yes. As mentioned above, Central Hub only has "transponder" and "cash" rates, with no in-state discounts. Several E-ZPass states in the Northeast have been leaning heavily on in-state discounts in recent years for political reasons (read: to avoid raising tolls on their own voters). This is no bueno in Central Hub, as they want their tag holders to pay the same rate as every other tag holder they are interoperable with, no home agency discounts allowed. To go fully interoperable at the IAG level, the IAG would likely need to ban transponder discrimination, which New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, and Maine would almost certainly veto
Please note: All posts represent my personal opinions and do not represent those of my employer or any of its partner agencies.