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What is it with I-95 & bridge fires?

Started by rickmastfan67, May 02, 2024, 11:16:05 AM

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rickmastfan67



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LilianaUwU

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SectorZ


ilpt4u

Weren't the others I-85/Georgia and I-10/Cali?

Ted$8roadFan

#5
A couple of theories: (1) incidents on I-95 naturally get more attention because it goes straight through the densely packed Northeast corridor where any incident will draw widespread attention from the business/government/media complex in NYC/DC; and (2) because it carries an insane amount of traffic and there aren't that many viable alternatives, any big accidents and closures become regional and even national events.

Great Lakes Roads

Well, it looks like CTDOT will have to replace the bridge with Federal Emergency money.
-Jay Seaburg

abqtraveler

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 02, 2024, 11:27:18 AMBad luck?
More like too many idiots in that part of the world who don't know how to drive.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

abqtraveler

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on May 02, 2024, 03:29:36 PMWell, it looks like CTDOT will have to replace the bridge with Federal Emergency money.
Congress is going to have to appropriate more emergency funding with all of the bridges that have been destroyed or failed lately. 
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

SectorZ

Quote from: abqtraveler on May 02, 2024, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on May 02, 2024, 03:29:36 PMWell, it looks like CTDOT will have to replace the bridge with Federal Emergency money.
Congress is going to have to appropriate more emergency funding with all of the bridges that have been destroyed or failed lately. 

Yet another incident caused by an entity and yet somehow the taxpayers will pay for it.

RobbieL2415

Honestly, I'd be posting detour notices on all the VMSs in both directions between NYC and Boston.

Commercial vehicles now have to use I-87 to I-90 to reach either destination.

LilianaUwU

Quote from: SectorZ on May 02, 2024, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: abqtraveler on May 02, 2024, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on May 02, 2024, 03:29:36 PMWell, it looks like CTDOT will have to replace the bridge with Federal Emergency money.
Congress is going to have to appropriate more emergency funding with all of the bridges that have been destroyed or failed lately. 

Yet another incident caused by an entity and yet somehow the taxpayers will pay for it.
Right?! Whenever this shit happens, whoever is responsible should pay for it.
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MikeTheActuary

Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 02, 2024, 07:11:20 PMRight?! Whenever this shit happens, whoever is responsible should pay for it.

The responsible party's/parties' insurer(s) will, I assume, cut a check to the state.  However, I expect that cleanup and repair costs will exceed the available insurance, and the time/cost of attempting to pursue recovery for the excess from the responsible partie(s) will eat up much of any potential recovery.

SectorZ

Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 02, 2024, 07:11:20 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on May 02, 2024, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: abqtraveler on May 02, 2024, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on May 02, 2024, 03:29:36 PMWell, it looks like CTDOT will have to replace the bridge with Federal Emergency money.
Congress is going to have to appropriate more emergency funding with all of the bridges that have been destroyed or failed lately. 

Yet another incident caused by an entity and yet somehow the taxpayers will pay for it.
Right?! Whenever this shit happens, whoever is responsible should pay for it.

Exactly. My state has had multiple instances of trucks wailing on overpasses too low for their overheight loads, and not only are they not paying the state doesn't even repair them for years.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/two-lanes-restored-around-roosevelt-circle-after-bridge-struck-by-truck/37115795

Case in point, truck hit overpass three years ago with an overheight load that was specifically routed to avoid it, and three years later no repairs have been made. It looks like ass and I'm waiting for someone to defeat the jersey barrier and land on I-93 underneath.

rickmastfan67

#14
I'm completely amazed that the cab for the tanker didn't burn out.


Dough4872

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 02, 2024, 07:05:01 PMHonestly, I'd be posting detour notices on all the VMSs in both directions between NYC and Boston.

Commercial vehicles now have to use I-87 to I-90 to reach either destination.

Isn't I-84 also a viable alternate?

robby2161

#16
Quote from: Dough4872 on May 02, 2024, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 02, 2024, 07:05:01 PMHonestly, I'd be posting detour notices on all the VMSs in both directions between NYC and Boston.

Commercial vehicles now have to use I-87 to I-90 to reach either destination.

Isn't I-84 also a viable alternate?

Not only viable, but preferred.  It amazes me how many news segments I've seen that can't seem to get the interstate detour correct...

Going Northbound from Port Chester, NY: 287 West -> 684 North -> 84 East -> 691 East -> 91 South

New Haven to Port Chester along 95 is 48 miles.  The detour I outlined is about 100 mi.  I live just north of Norwalk, the gridlock yesterday in/around the area of the accident was wild.  Another problem is that our local and state roads in this part of CT aren't very truck friendly. Dated infrastructure, such as low underpasses, substandard lane widths, odd intersection geometry, and poor signage aren't helping.


Ted$8roadFan

Didn't the state plan on building an expressway along the route of CT-34 from the danbury area to New Haven during its road-building bonanza?

74/171FAN

Quote from: robby2161 on May 03, 2024, 07:03:54 AM
Quote from: Dough4872 on May 02, 2024, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 02, 2024, 07:05:01 PMHonestly, I'd be posting detour notices on all the VMSs in both directions between NYC and Boston.

Commercial vehicles now have to use I-87 to I-90 to reach either destination.

Isn't I-84 also a viable alternate?

Not only viable, but preferred.  It amazes me how many news segments I've seen that can't seem to get the interstate detour correct...

Going Northbound from Port Chester, NY: 287 West -> 684 North -> 84 East -> 691 East -> 91 South

New Haven to Port Chester along 95 is 48 miles.  The detour I outlined is about 100 mi.  I live just north of Norwalk, the gridlock yesterday in/around the area of the accident was wild.  Another problem is that our local and state roads in this part of CT aren't very truck friendly. Dated infrastructure, such as low underpasses, substandard lane widths, odd intersection geometry, and poor signage aren't helping.



You are probably better off cutting over to I-81 if possible if coming from MD and points south to take I-84 anywhere into New England right now.
I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

SectorZ

Can't wait to see the first trucker try the Merritt Pkwy as an alternative. At least they'll learn quickly that it's not just a violation of law, it's a violation of physics.

webny99

Quote from: ilpt4u on May 02, 2024, 01:24:36 PMWeren't the others I-85/Georgia and I-10/Cali?

I-95 in Philly is probably what the thread title is referencing.

webny99

#21
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 03, 2024, 07:30:37 AM
Quote from: robby2161 on May 03, 2024, 07:03:54 AM
Quote from: Dough4872 on May 02, 2024, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 02, 2024, 07:05:01 PMHonestly, I'd be posting detour notices on all the VMSs in both directions between NYC and Boston.

Commercial vehicles now have to use I-87 to I-90 to reach either destination.

Isn't I-84 also a viable alternate?

Not only viable, but preferred.  It amazes me how many news segments I've seen that can't seem to get the interstate detour correct...

Going Northbound from Port Chester, NY: 287 West -> 684 North -> 84 East -> 691 East -> 91 South
...

You are probably better off cutting over to I-81 if possible if coming from MD and points south to take I-84 anywhere into New England right now.

Agreed that I-84 is by far the preferred alternative. Another thing that might surprise some is that I-95 is NOT the fastest route from NYC to Boston. I-95/I-91/I-84 is not only faster, it's almost entirely six lanes. Factoring that in, a significant portion (>50%) of I-95 through traffic in southern CT is bound for I-91/I-84 anyways, so all that traffic could just continue on to I-91 north and would not have to return to I-95 at all.

I don't think using I-81 to I-84 would be necessary unless you're starting well inland from I-95. Any traffic originating south and west of NYC could just use I-287 in NJ, then decide based on traffic conditions whether to take I-287/I-684 (congestion-prone through Rockland/Westchester) or I-87 NB to I-84 (usually clear outside of weekend/holiday traffic).

kernals12

I'm not usually big on conspiracy theories, but this is the 3rd incident in less than a year where an Interstate Highway has been closed by a fire-induced bridge collapse, in addition to that ship collapsing the bridge in Baltimore.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: kernals12 on May 03, 2024, 11:27:00 AMI'm not usually big on conspiracy theories, but this is the 3rd incident in less than a year where an Interstate Highway has been closed by a fire-induced bridge collapse, in addition to that ship collapsing the bridge in Baltimore.

Does that mean that you're insinuating that these events are somehow connected?

PColumbus73

The good news is that the bridge that was damaged wasn't one that carries I-95 itself. If they can expedite the removal of the damaged bridge, I would think they could reopen I-95 pretty quickly while they work on rebuilding the overpass.



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