I-344 I-240 I-335 Signage

[The Ghostbuster]

Maybe I'll get my answer when they finally add numbers to Interstate 344's exits (which they should have done a long time ago).

[chays]

How can I-344 become a signed interstate and NOT have exit numbers. This a FHWA requirement, I believe.

[CoreySamson]

How can I-344 become a signed interstate and NOT have exit numbers. This a FHWA requirement, I believe.

I-69 in Houston also did not have exit numbers for the first few years of its existence.

[The Ghostbuster]

The John Kilpatrick Turnpike has never had exit numbers. Also, the mile markers should have started at Mile 0, not Mile 104. Hopefully, Interstate 344 will have exit numbers, though they should be based on Interstate 344's actual mileage.

[Scott5114]

How can I-344 become a signed interstate and NOT have exit numbers. This a FHWA requirement, I believe.

Every highway-related decision in Oklahoma has to make as little sense as possible. This a Oklahoma requirement, I believe.

[jdingus]

I drove I-240/SH152 on Sunday still no I-240 signs.

[The Ghostbuster]

Perhaps the Interstate 240 extension will remain signed as OK 152. It was an unnecessary extension in my opinion.

[Henry]

Perhaps the Interstate 240 extension will remain signed as OK 152. It was an unnecessary extension in my opinion.

Yeah, I hope it stays that way. Spurring into a surface road makes no sense for a designation of its kind. I-344 I can see, but I-240, no.

[Bobby5280]

I think we'll see what ultimately happens with route signing once the Tri-City Connector Turnpike is built around the West side of Will Rogers Airport. I believe there is a decent chance the I-344 designation could be extended along that connector turnpike down to I-44. That would allow that short extension of I-240 to have a more proper terminus with I-344. I-240 would end at a proper freeway to freeway interchange instead of the current arrangement where it spurs off to the South and ends at a traffic signal.

[Scott5114]

Given that the closest 2di to me now has its termini at a random interchange with a state route spur on one end and in the middle of a bridge on the other, I really don't see why everyone is so apoplectic about Oklahoma ending a 3di at a traffic signal.

Didn't South Dakota have a 3di that ended at a gravel road until recently?

[jdingus]

Anyone know if the 644 designation is happening on the Creek?

[JayhawkCO]

Didn't South Dakota have a 3di that ended at a gravel road until recently?

Not sure what you're referring to. I-229 ends at I-29 and I-90. I-190 ends at I-90 and US16/SD44 in downtown Rapid City.

[Rothman]

Didn't South Dakota have a 3di that ended at a gravel road until recently?

Not sure what you're referring to. I-229 ends at I-29 and I-90. I-190 ends at I-90 and US16/SD44 in downtown Rapid City.

It was I-229 back in the day (maybe as little as ten years or so ago).

[NE2]

I-229 ended at I-90, but the surface road continuing on was unpaved.

[JayhawkCO]

I-229 ended at I-90, but the surface road continuing on was unpaved.

As of 2008, it was paved.

[Rothman]

I-229 ended at I-90, but the surface road continuing on was unpaved.

As of 2008, it was paved.

So?

[JayhawkCO]

I-229 ended at I-90, but the surface road continuing on was unpaved.

As of 2008, it was paved.

So?

Scott said that it ended at a gravel road recently. I would argue that over 17 years ago is not recent.

[Rothman]

I-229 ended at I-90, but the surface road continuing on was unpaved.

As of 2008, it was paved.

So?

Scott said that it ended at a gravel road recently. I would argue that over 17 years ago is not recent.

Pfft.  It was recent.

[JayhawkCO]

I-229 ended at I-90, but the surface road continuing on was unpaved.

As of 2008, it was paved.

So?

Scott said that it ended at a gravel road recently. I would argue that over 17 years ago is not recent.

Pfft.  It was recent.

I was not recently in my mid 20's.

[ElishaGOtis]

Given that the closest 2di to me now has its termini at a random interchange with a state route spur on one end and in the middle of a bridge on the other, I really don't see why everyone is so apoplectic about Oklahoma ending a 3di at a traffic signal.

Didn't South Dakota have a 3di that ended at a gravel road until recently?

I think the concerns focus more on co-terminating routes than something ending at a signal. Ending at a signal or intersection is quite common with interstate routes, especially 3di spurs (I.e. almost every spur interstate in Florida, I-165 AL, I-516 GA, I-115 MT, and a bunch more). Am I understanding the situation correctly?

[Rothman]

I-229 ended at I-90, but the surface road continuing on was unpaved.

As of 2008, it was paved.

So?

Scott said that it ended at a gravel road recently. I would argue that over 17 years ago is not recent.

Pfft.  It was recent.

I was not recently in my mid 20's.

Old fart.

[JayhawkCO]

I-229 ended at I-90, but the surface road continuing on was unpaved.

As of 2008, it was paved.

So?

Scott said that it ended at a gravel road recently. I would argue that over 17 years ago is not recent.

Pfft.  It was recent.

I was not recently in my mid 20's.

Old fart.

JayhawkCO < Rothman, no?

[kphoger]

JayhawkCO < Rothman

Did you really just suggest that Rothman is greater than you?  Dude, his ego is big enough as it is.

[JayhawkCO]

JayhawkCO < Rothman

Did you really just suggest that Rothman is greater than you?  Dude, his ego is big enough as it is.

Build 'em up before you knock 'em down.

[Bobby5280]

Given that the closest 2di to me now has its termini at a random interchange with a state route spur on one end and in the middle of a bridge on the other, I really don't see why everyone is so apoplectic about Oklahoma ending a 3di at a traffic signal.

I-11 is a work in progress, so it's sort of understood that its current, arguably crappy ends are ultimately temporary. Both ends of the Interstate will be extended, eventually. This I-240 thing is an entirely different stinking can of worms -and that arrangement could end up being more permanent.

First, why bother extending I-240 any farther past its previous ending with I-44 in the first place? Is there really any benefit of extending I-240 farther West along Airport Road?

I would have said "yes" to that question if the extension meant going onto the extension of the Kilpatrick Turnpike in order to make both ends of I-240 terminate at I-40. That would have actually made sense. Having I-240 hang a left onto SH-152 and then end at a traffic signal with SW 59th Street is definitely not an acceptable alternative. If that's how things are going to be Airport Road just needs to continue only being signed only as SH-152.

I-240 is an even numbered 3-digit Interstate route. It has been generally observed that even-numbered 3-digit Interstates are supposed to be "loop" routes with both ends meeting another Interstate. An odd-numbered 3-digit Interstate is usually considered a spur route; that can end at an ordinary surface street Intersection (although some officials say that terminus needs to be at another route on the National Highway System).