Control cities that aren’t reciprocated

[kphoger]

And, for the record, California uses Yuma on I-8 eastbound.

Yeah, I thought of mentioning that, but then, it also uses El Centro, so I wasn't so sure that California should be the role model.

[Roadgeekteen]

I will say that if Arizona used skipped Flagstaff on I-40 and just used Albuquerque and LA I wouldn't be clamoring for it to be added, and if they used Yuma on I-8 I wouldn't be upset that it was used.

[JayhawkCO]

And, for the record, California uses Yuma on I-8 eastbound.

Yeah, I thought of mentioning that, but then, it also uses El Centro, so I wasn't so sure that California should be the role model.

El Centro is the Official Center of the World after all.

[JayhawkCO]

I will say that if Arizona used skipped Flagstaff on I-40 and just used Albuquerque and LA I wouldn't be clamoring for it to be added, and if they used Yuma on I-8 I wouldn't be upset that it was used.

And I would argue that Flag should be used because I don't like there to be too far of a distance in between control cities. Same argument, just other side.

[Roadgeekteen]

I will say that if Arizona used skipped Flagstaff on I-40 and just used Albuquerque and LA I wouldn't be clamoring for it to be added, and if they used Yuma on I-8 I wouldn't be upset that it was used.

And I would argue that Flag should be used because I don't like there to be too far of a distance in between control cities. Same argument, just other side.

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

[kphoger]

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

About the same as Denver CO to Salina KS.

[JayhawkCO]

I will say that if Arizona used skipped Flagstaff on I-40 and just used Albuquerque and LA I wouldn't be clamoring for it to be added, and if they used Yuma on I-8 I wouldn't be upset that it was used.

And I would argue that Flag should be used because I don't like there to be too far of a distance in between control cities. Same argument, just other side.

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

By about 50%.

[Roadgeekteen]

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

About the same as Denver CO to Salina KS.

Although Yuma is a lot bigger than any of the places in between Salina and Denver.

[JayhawkCO]

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

About the same as Denver CO to Salina KS.

Although Yuma is a lot bigger than any of the places in between Salina and Denver.

The only micropolitan area in between is Hays with a population of 36,531, so about 5.5x smaller than Yuma.

[Roadgeekteen]

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

About the same as Denver CO to Salina KS.

Although Yuma is a lot bigger than any of the places in between Salina and Denver.

The only micropolitan area in between is Hays with a population of 36,531, so about 5.5x smaller than Yuma.

If I had to sign something in between them it would be Hays. I know Limon gets memed on a lot here and is even mentioned in my bio, but it's main issue is that it's just too close to Denver to sign, at least Hays is further away.

[JayhawkCO]

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

About the same as Denver CO to Salina KS.

Although Yuma is a lot bigger than any of the places in between Salina and Denver.

The only micropolitan area in between is Hays with a population of 36,531, so about 5.5x smaller than Yuma.

If I had to sign something in between them it would be Hays. I know Limon gets memed on a lot here and is even mentioned in my bio, but it's main issue is that it's just too close to Denver to sign, at least Hays is further away.

Curious to your feelings on Albert Lea.

[Roadgeekteen]

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

About the same as Denver CO to Salina KS.

Although Yuma is a lot bigger than any of the places in between Salina and Denver.

The only micropolitan area in between is Hays with a population of 36,531, so about 5.5x smaller than Yuma.

If I had to sign something in between them it would be Hays. I know Limon gets memed on a lot here and is even mentioned in my bio, but it's main issue is that it's just too close to Denver to sign, at least Hays is further away.

Curious to your feelings on Albert Lea.

Too close to the Twin Cities to sign IMO.

[Flint1979]

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

About the same as Denver CO to Salina KS.

Although Yuma is a lot bigger than any of the places in between Salina and Denver.

The only micropolitan area in between is Hays with a population of 36,531, so about 5.5x smaller than Yuma.

If I had to sign something in between them it would be Hays. I know Limon gets memed on a lot here and is even mentioned in my bio, but it's main issue is that it's just too close to Denver to sign, at least Hays is further away.

Curious to your feelings on Albert Lea.

Too close to the Twin Cities to sign IMO.

Too close to the Twin Cities? It's 96 miles from Minneapolis and 101 miles from St. Paul. I don't see how the distance is too close to the Twin Cities.

[Roadgeekteen]

San Diego and Tucson are a lot closer than Albuquerque and LA to be fair.

About the same as Denver CO to Salina KS.

Although Yuma is a lot bigger than any of the places in between Salina and Denver.

The only micropolitan area in between is Hays with a population of 36,531, so about 5.5x smaller than Yuma.

If I had to sign something in between them it would be Hays. I know Limon gets memed on a lot here and is even mentioned in my bio, but it's main issue is that it's just too close to Denver to sign, at least Hays is further away.

Curious to your feelings on Albert Lea.

Too close to the Twin Cities to sign IMO.

Too close to the Twin Cities? It's 96 miles from Minneapolis and 101 miles from St. Paul. I don't see how the distance is too close to the Twin Cities.

I'm only fine with signing small towns when there is nothing around for hundreds of miles. Like Elko I'm OK with, same with Hays. Albert Lea isn't like that.

[kphoger]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

[Flint1979]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

[Roadgeekteen]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

Nobody has heard of Mason City and 250 isn't that long. That's less than half of the distance between San Antonio and El Paso.

[JayhawkCO]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

Nobody has heard of Mason City and 250 isn't that long. That's less than half of the distance between San Antonio and El Paso.

Says someone who lives in Mass where the farthest away control city is like 7 miles.

[roadman65]

Kansas City at Council Bluffs, IA for I-29.  However from Kansas City they don't reciprocate Council Bluffs, but use St. Joseph instead on the same highway going back.

[Roadgeekteen]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

Nobody has heard of Mason City and 250 isn't that long. That's less than half of the distance between San Antonio and El Paso.

Says someone who lives in Mass where the farthest away control city is like 7 miles.

Even out east, 250 is less than the number of miles between Albany and Buffalo (284), signed on the Thruway, so I fail to see a compelling argument for not signing Minneapolis in Des Moines and vice versa.

[Flint1979]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

Nobody has heard of Mason City and 250 isn't that long. That's less than half of the distance between San Antonio and El Paso.

People in Iowa and the rest of that area have. 250 miles is long enough, and I don't even agree with having Chicago as the control city on WB I-94 starting in Detroit, it should be Kalamazoo (Ann Arbor is too close to Detroit to be an effective control city) although Jackson would work too, all three of those cities are at US highway interchanges too. Kalamazoo is best though because it's the halfway point between Detroit and Chicago, after Kalamazoo it should be Chicago.

[Flint1979]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

Nobody has heard of Mason City and 250 isn't that long. That's less than half of the distance between San Antonio and El Paso.

Says someone who lives in Mass where the farthest away control city is like 7 miles.

Even out east, 250 is less than the number of miles between Albany and Buffalo (284), signed on the Thruway, so I fail to see a compelling argument for not signing Minneapolis in Des Moines and vice versa.

Depends on what works best for the area. Michigan doesn't use a control city 250 miles away except for Chicago which is about 275 miles from Detroit, so it barely is over 250 miles.

[Roadgeekteen]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

Nobody has heard of Mason City and 250 isn't that long. That's less than half of the distance between San Antonio and El Paso.

People in Iowa and the rest of that area have. 250 miles is long enough, and I don't even agree with having Chicago as the control city on WB I-94 starting in Detroit, it should be Kalamazoo (Ann Arbor is too close to Detroit to be an effective control city) although Jackson would work too, all three of those cities are at US highway interchanges too. Kalamazoo is best though because it's the halfway point between Detroit and Chicago, after Kalamazoo it should be Chicago.

Control cities aren't for local drivers, they are for out of towners/people unfamiliar with the area/long distance drivers.

[Roadgeekteen]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

Nobody has heard of Mason City and 250 isn't that long. That's less than half of the distance between San Antonio and El Paso.

Says someone who lives in Mass where the farthest away control city is like 7 miles.

Even out east, 250 is less than the number of miles between Albany and Buffalo (284), signed on the Thruway, so I fail to see a compelling argument for not signing Minneapolis in Des Moines and vice versa.

Depends on what works best for the area. Michigan doesn't use a control city 250 miles away except for Chicago which is about 275 miles from Detroit, so it barely is over 250 miles.

Michigan has a lot more decently sized cities scattered around. Iowa is a much lower density state so control cities will be further apart.

[Flint1979]

I don't understand Iowa's approach to I-35.

From Des Moines, it's signed for Minneapolis.  From Ames, it's also signed for Minneapolis.  Yet from US-20 (Williams), it's signed for Mason City. 

I would say it should be Mason City all along. Minneapolis is about 250 miles from Des Moines.

Nobody has heard of Mason City and 250 isn't that long. That's less than half of the distance between San Antonio and El Paso.

People in Iowa and the rest of that area have. 250 miles is long enough, and I don't even agree with having Chicago as the control city on WB I-94 starting in Detroit, it should be Kalamazoo (Ann Arbor is too close to Detroit to be an effective control city) although Jackson would work too, all three of those cities are at US highway interchanges too. Kalamazoo is best though because it's the halfway point between Detroit and Chicago, after Kalamazoo it should be Chicago.

Control cities aren't for local drivers, they are for out of towners/people unfamiliar with the area/long distance drivers.

Yeah well Mason City is a pretty well-known city it's regional hub. It's also at the northern end of I-35's route through the state and also at the interchange of US-18 which is a freeway in that area going to Waterloo so it's fine as a control city. I've been through that part of Iowa many times.