Control Cities

[TheStranger]

On I-81 I would only sign Bristol, Roanoke, and Winchester in Virginia.

I don't even think Bristol is necessary. Who has ever heard of it? I would use Knoxville south of Roanoke.

It represents the Tri-City region in Northeastern Tennessee.

And isn't the NASCAR racetrack a decent enough tourist attraction as is?  (Even if it is only busy a few weekends out of the year)

[thspfc]

On I-81 I would only sign Bristol, Roanoke, and Winchester in Virginia.

I don't even think Bristol is necessary. Who has ever heard of it? I would use Knoxville south of Roanoke.

It represents the Tri-City region in Northeastern Tennessee.
And isn't the NASCAR racetrack a decent enough tourist attraction as is?  (Even if it is only busy a few weekends out of the year)

I agree with Knoxville instead of Bristol.

[Roadgeekteen]

On I-81 I would only sign Bristol, Roanoke, and Winchester in Virginia.

I don't even think Bristol is necessary. Who has ever heard of it? I would use Knoxville south of Roanoke.

It represents the Tri-City region in Northeastern Tennessee.

I agree with Knoxville instead of Bristol.

And isn't the NASCAR racetrack a decent enough tourist attraction as is?  (Even if it is only busy a few weekends out of the year)

The Tri State CSA does have a population of about 500K.

[hobsini2]

On I-81 I would only sign Bristol, Roanoke, and Winchester in Virginia.

I don't even think Bristol is necessary. Who has ever heard of it? I would use Knoxville south of Roanoke.

It represents the Tri-City region in Northeastern Tennessee.

Bristol also has a major tourist attraction for NASCAR fans. Just sayin.

[dvferyance]

On I-81 I would only sign Bristol, Roanoke, and Winchester in Virginia.

I don't even think Bristol is necessary. Who has ever heard of it? I would use Knoxville south of Roanoke.

It represents the Tri-City region in Northeastern Tennessee.

I agree with Knoxville instead of Bristol.

And isn't the NASCAR racetrack a decent enough tourist attraction as is?  (Even if it is only busy a few weekends out of the year)

The Tri State CSA does have a population of about 500K.

But Bristol is not even the main city of the Tri State CSA. That would be Johnson City.

[Roadgeekteen]

On I-81 I would only sign Bristol, Roanoke, and Winchester in Virginia.

I don't even think Bristol is necessary. Who has ever heard of it? I would use Knoxville south of Roanoke.

It represents the Tri-City region in Northeastern Tennessee.

I agree with Knoxville instead of Bristol.

And isn't the NASCAR racetrack a decent enough tourist attraction as is?  (Even if it is only busy a few weekends out of the year)

The Tri State CSA does have a population of about 500K.

But Bristol is not even the main city of the Tri State CSA. That would be Johnson City.

Johnson City isn't on I-81.

[ran4sh]

The Tri-cities have their own media market. To me that makes them large enough to post as a control city. Since Johnson City and Kingsport aren't on I-81, that leaves Bristol. Thus, Bristol is a valid choice for a control city (and additionally Virginia can just claim that it's still an in-state destination).

[Flint1979]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[Roadgeekteen]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

[Flint1979]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

Mackinac Bridge makes more sense and I'm sure other states would use it too.

[thenetwork]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

Mackinac Bridge makes more sense and I'm sure other states would use it too.

Caltrans would just sign it "Other Lower Peninsula Cities"

[Roadgeekteen]

Arizona would sign Detroit

[ilpt4u]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

I'd rather see "The Mitten"  signed

[Flint1979]

Well it's a good thing that it's MDOT's call. It's St. Ignace then Mackinac Bridge, then Saginaw, then Flint, then Detroit, then Toledo.

Saginaw and Detroit are signed at the interchange with US-127's northern terminus and Clare and Lansing are used for US-127 itself.

Saginaw and Detroit are also signed at the interchange with US-10's eastern terminus.

[achilles765]

My this thread has taken some interesting turns. 

Let's go back to talking about control cities.

I-10 West in San Antonio: El Paso, Tucson, Los Angeles, Fort Stockton, or Egypt? (based on a true story)

El Paso. Use Tucson west of it, no Lordsburg or Deming.

I would keep Las Cruces, then use Tucson west of there.

I would use Las Cruces in El Paso but not Tucson.

I would keep las cruces both directions for one major reason: it's where interstate 25 begins. I'm ok with control cities being where two major routes meet. For i 10, I would use:
Los Angeles, Phoenix, Tucson, las cruces, El Paso, San Antonio, Houston, Beaumont, lake Charles, Lafayette, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Slidell, Gulfport-Biloxi, mobile, Pensacola, Tallahassee, Jacksonville

[Flint1979]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

Mackinac Bridge makes more sense and I'm sure other states would use it too.

Caltrans would just sign it "Other Lower Peninsula Cities"

Why would they do that? You aren't in the Lower Peninsula at this point.

[Flint1979]

Arizona would sign Detroit

I doubt they would in that location. Detroit is 350 miles away. All of Arizona's large cities except for Tucson are in the Phoenix area. Yuma and Flagstaff aren't all that big but big enough to be control cities.

[Occidental Tourist]

My this thread has taken some interesting turns. 

Let's go back to talking about control cities.

I-10 West in San Antonio: El Paso, Tucson, Los Angeles, Fort Stockton, or Egypt? (based on a true story)

El Paso. Use Tucson west of it, no Lordsburg or Deming.

I would keep Las Cruces, then use Tucson west of there.

I would use Las Cruces in El Paso but not Tucson.

I would keep las cruces both directions for one major reason: it's where interstate 25 begins. I'm ok with control cities being where two major routes meet. For i 10, I would use:
Los Angeles, Phoenix, Tucson, las cruces, El Paso, San Antonio, Houston, Beaumont, lake Charles, Lafayette, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Slidell, Gulfport-Biloxi, mobile, Pensacola, Tallahassee, Jacksonville

So Las Cruces where I-25 begins but not Casa Grande where I-8 begins?

[hobsini2]

My this thread has taken some interesting turns. 

Let's go back to talking about control cities.

I-10 West in San Antonio: El Paso, Tucson, Los Angeles, Fort Stockton, or Egypt? (based on a true story)

El Paso. Use Tucson west of it, no Lordsburg or Deming.

I would keep Las Cruces, then use Tucson west of there.

I would use Las Cruces in El Paso but not Tucson.

I would keep las cruces both directions for one major reason: it's where interstate 25 begins. I'm ok with control cities being where two major routes meet. For i 10, I would use:
Los Angeles, Phoenix, Tucson, las cruces, El Paso, San Antonio, Houston, Beaumont, lake Charles, Lafayette, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Slidell, Gulfport-Biloxi, mobile, Pensacola, Tallahassee, Jacksonville

So Las Cruces where I-25 begins but not Casa Grande where I-8 begins?

Casa Grande is lesser known to the general public. Not Cove Fort lesser known but it is none the less.  I have always hated using Slidell though. There are better ways to convey that I-12 is a short cut without going through New Orleans. Just sign it Biloxi or Mobile. Both are more important cities.

[hbelkins]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

I'd rather see "The Mitten"  signed

At the beginning of US 2 at St. Ignace, the overhead sign for the ramp to southbound I-75 says "Mackinac Bridge" but there is a ground-mounted supplemental sign that says "Lower Peninsula."

[Flint1979]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

I'd rather see "The Mitten"  signed

At the beginning of US 2 at St. Ignace, the overhead sign for the ramp to southbound I-75 says "Mackinac Bridge" but there is a ground-mounted supplemental sign that says "Lower Peninsula."

Where is it? I go through that interchange quite a bit and have only seen the control cities which are Mackinac Bridge for SB and Sault Ste. Marie for NB.

[7/8]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

I'd rather see "The Mitten"  signed

At the beginning of US 2 at St. Ignace, the overhead sign for the ramp to southbound I-75 says "Mackinac Bridge" but there is a ground-mounted supplemental sign that says "Lower Peninsula."

Where is it? I go through that interchange quite a bit and have only seen the control cities which are Mackinac Bridge for SB and Sault Ste. Marie for NB.

Here's the street view capture for the Lower Peninsula sign: https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.8574821,-84.7293923,3a,25.2y,313.98h,88.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAF1QipM_bzcLlkSqedzTsgL6RsHHnQRzPepMkQqsZOq6!2e10!3e11!7i3840!8i1920

[Flint1979]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

I'd rather see "The Mitten"  signed

At the beginning of US 2 at St. Ignace, the overhead sign for the ramp to southbound I-75 says "Mackinac Bridge" but there is a ground-mounted supplemental sign that says "Lower Peninsula."

Where is it? I go through that interchange quite a bit and have only seen the control cities which are Mackinac Bridge for SB and Sault Ste. Marie for NB.

Here's the street view capture for the Lower Peninsula sign: https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.8574821,-84.7293923,3a,25.2y,313.98h,88.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAF1QipM_bzcLlkSqedzTsgL6RsHHnQRzPepMkQqsZOq6!2e10!3e11!7i3840!8i1920

Hmm that must be the only one and I've past that every time I've gone up there and never noticed it. Honestly though I don't think the sign needs to be there.

[hobsini2]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

I'd rather see "The Mitten"  signed

At the beginning of US 2 at St. Ignace, the overhead sign for the ramp to southbound I-75 says "Mackinac Bridge" but there is a ground-mounted supplemental sign that says "Lower Peninsula."

Where is it? I go through that interchange quite a bit and have only seen the control cities which are Mackinac Bridge for SB and Sault Ste. Marie for NB.

Here's the street view capture for the Lower Peninsula sign: https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.8574821,-84.7293923,3a,25.2y,313.98h,88.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAF1QipM_bzcLlkSqedzTsgL6RsHHnQRzPepMkQqsZOq6!2e10!3e11!7i3840!8i1920

Hmm that must be the only one and I've past that every time I've gone up there and never noticed it. Honestly though I don't think the sign needs to be there.

For some reason, there is only a Lower Peninsula sign on WB 2 to SB 75. There is none on EB 2 the other way.

[Flint1979]

Here's a rare sign that doesn't have the Mackinac Bridge as a control city on it. Just across the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.493075,-84.369387,3a,75y,219.93h,118.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLpN2XKqaCh4-QKC6iMzLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Many states would sign "Lower Peninsula"

I'd rather see "The Mitten"  signed

At the beginning of US 2 at St. Ignace, the overhead sign for the ramp to southbound I-75 says "Mackinac Bridge" but there is a ground-mounted supplemental sign that says "Lower Peninsula."

Where is it? I go through that interchange quite a bit and have only seen the control cities which are Mackinac Bridge for SB and Sault Ste. Marie for NB.

Here's the street view capture for the Lower Peninsula sign: https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.8574821,-84.7293923,3a,25.2y,313.98h,88.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAF1QipM_bzcLlkSqedzTsgL6RsHHnQRzPepMkQqsZOq6!2e10!3e11!7i3840!8i1920

Hmm that must be the only one and I've past that every time I've gone up there and never noticed it. Honestly though I don't think the sign needs to be there.

For some reason, there is only a Lower Peninsula sign on WB 2 to SB 75. There is none on EB 2 the other way.

Yeah EB certainly doesn't have one I can vouch for that one.