Amazon takes control of Bond Franchise

[kernals12]

Welp, we can add 007 to the list of franchises to be ruined (looking at you Star Wars).

[Scott5114]

Guess we can look forward to Bond affectionately referring to the film's love interest as "alive girl" and somehow getting to sleep with her anyway.

[Big John]

Packages shall be shaken not stirred.

[SectorZ]

Does Amazon ruin franchises like Disney does? I am honestly ignorant of whether they do or don't.

[kernals12]

Does Amazon ruin franchises like Disney does? I am honestly ignorant of whether they do or don't.

Rings of Power hasn't gotten good reviews. And as far as Bond as concerned, in discussions with Barbara Broccoli, Amazon executives said they wanted to do a whole bunch of spinoffs and one of them said "Bond isn't a hero".

Guess we can look forward to Bond affectionately referring to the film's love interest as "alive girl" and somehow getting to sleep with her anyway.

Oh no, there won't be any more romance between Bond and any female characters. That would be upholding the Patriarchy. All the women 007 will come across will be stoic, overpowered girlbosses and if they show any romantic interest, it will be toward other women.

[Max Rockatansky]

007 movies are a mixed bag anyways.  There are a handful that are really good while most are just okay. 

[kphoger]

Oh no, there won't be any more romance between Bond and any female characters. That would be upholding the Patriarchy. All the women 007 will come across will be stoic, overpowered girlbosses and if they show any romantic interest, it will be toward other women.

While the very last part of that probably won't end up being true, I strongly suspect the rest of it will.

The days of calling a movie Octopussy are long gone.

[ZLoth]

The differences between the 007 movies and 007 books are so great that they might as well exist in two different universes, not to mention that they are products of their respective times. In some cases, the only thing shared between the book and the movie is the title and maybe a character or three.

[Rothman]

Disney has been terrible for Doctor Who.  Although the party line has been that Disney would only act as a distributor, their behind-closed-doors influence on the show is as obvious as the Russian-sourced polonium that sometimes pops up in journalist's beverages...

[Max Rockatansky]

Oh no, there won't be any more romance between Bond and any female characters. That would be upholding the Patriarchy. All the women 007 will come across will be stoic, overpowered girlbosses and if they show any romantic interest, it will be toward other women.

While the very last part of that probably won't end up being true, I strongly suspect the rest of it will.

The days of calling a movie Octopussy are long gone.

That's where I thought things were going when I saw Ana de Armas in the trailers for No Time to Die.  I guess to an extent that was true in the movie, but her role wasn't nearly as big as the trailers suggested.  Then again who am I to complain about a movie with her in the cast?  Fair chance I'll be seeing the next John Wick movie (be it good or bad) because she is in it.

[Rothman]

Wait...another John Wick movie is coming out?  His survival after falling of the Cosmopolitan was unbelievable enough, let alone after how the last movie ended...

[Max Rockatansky]

Wait...another John Wick movie is coming out?  His survival after falling of the Cosmopolitan was unbelievable enough, let alone after how the last movie ended...

Apparently a side story of some kind.  Set between John Wick 3 and 4:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_World_of_John_Wick:_Ballerina

[ZLoth]

Disney has been terrible for Doctor Who.  Although the party line has been that Disney would only act as a distributor, their behind-closed-doors influence on the show is as obvious as the Russian-sourced polonium that sometimes pops up in journalist's beverages...

I think the word that you are looking for that is affecting not only the entertainment industry but other industries as well is "enshittification".

[SEWIGuy]

Oh no, there won't be any more romance between Bond and any female characters. That would be upholding the Patriarchy. All the women 007 will come across will be stoic, overpowered girlbosses and if they show any romantic interest, it will be toward other women.

While the very last part of that probably won't end up being true, I strongly suspect the rest of it will.

The days of calling a movie Octopussy are long gone.

I watched For Your Eyes Only a few months ago, and man are there some cringe-worthy parts of that moview when it comes to the "romance." The 70s and 80s were very horny times.

That being said, there were very powerful female figures in many of the 007 films.

[hotdogPi]

Why would any girl accept James Bond if she knows she won't last?

[ZLoth]

Especially with 007's alcohol consumption.

From BBC (published 13 December 2013):

James Bond is an 'impotent drunk'

Vodka martini, "shaken not stirred" - often said as part of a bad Sean Connery impersonation - is one of the most quotable lines from Bond.

Yet Her Majesty's top secret agent's love of the bottle would leave him impotent and at death's door.

Doctors analysing the Ian Fleming novels show James Bond polishes off the equivalent of one and a half bottles of wine every day.

FULL ARTICLE HERE

[kphoger]

I watched For Your Eyes Only a few months ago, and man are there some cringe-worthy parts of that movie when it comes to the "romance." The 70s and 80s were very horny times.

I'm glad you put "romance" in quotes.  A romantic Bond is not.

Why would any girl accept James Bond if she knows she won't last?

I don't know?  Because...

Sweet dreams are made of this.
Who am I to disagree?
I've traveled the world and the seven seas:
Everybody's lookin' for something.

Some of them want to use you;
Some of them want to get used by you.
Some of them want to abuse you;
Some of them want to be abused.

... ?

Then again, we might as well ask how we're to believe any female character would be sexually attracted to Woody Allen.

[SEWIGuy]

Why would any girl accept James Bond if she knows she won't last?

Women don't mind one night stands either?

[kphoger]

Doctors analysing the Ian Fleming novels show James Bond polishes off the equivalent of one and a half bottles of wine every day.

It's said that the average ancient Roman citizen consumed a liter of wine every day.  However, it was typically diluted to anywhere from 1:1 to 3:1, water:wine.

[kernals12]

I have a beef with how Bond is mocked as a womanizer. I guess slut shaming is okay when it's done to men.

[SEWIGuy]

I have a beef with how Bond is mocked as a womanizer. I guess slut shaming is okay when it's done to men.

Who is mocking him as a womanizer? If that's what he wants, and the women are consenting, that's fine by me.

It's just cringe-worthy IMO. But that was very commonplace in the era in which the films were made.

[Max Rockatansky]

I have a beef with how Bond is mocked as a womanizer. I guess slut shaming is okay when it's done to men.

Who is mocking him as a womanizer? If that's what he wants, and the women are consenting, that's fine by me.

It's just cringe-worthy IMO. But that was very commonplace in the era in which the films were made.

And some of his pickups in the novels were even sillier than the movies. 

[kphoger]

I have a beef with how Bond is mocked as a womanizer. I guess slut shaming is okay when it's done to men.

Who is mocking him as a womanizer?

That's what I was wondering too.  But I just figured I was out of the loop and social media was abuzz with Bond-mocking or something.

[Max Rockatansky]

I have a beef with how Bond is mocked as a womanizer. I guess slut shaming is okay when it's done to men.

Who is mocking him as a womanizer?

That's what I was wondering too.  But I just figured I was out of the loop and social media was abuzz with Bond-mocking or something.

There isn't much in the way of Bond-shaming I've seen on normal social media.  If one digs into the dark recesses of the Internet they can find stylized shaming for everything.

[kernals12]

I have a beef with how Bond is mocked as a womanizer. I guess slut shaming is okay when it's done to men.

Who is mocking him as a womanizer?

That's what I was wondering too.  But I just figured I was out of the loop and social media was abuzz with Bond-mocking or something.

Have you not seen Goldeneye?