I just got fired

[Scott5114]

Yeah, I wonder about registering a car in a state different than the one one resides in.  States typically have laws that require it after some period of time living in the state.

Must be very unlikely to be caught, though.

I'd think the "tell" would be a Texas registration and a Nevada driver's license.

Yes, but a Nevada police officer would have to have probable cause to think that a car with Texas plates is being driven by a Nevada license holder to stop them. There are plenty of Texas tourists visiting Nevada, and we don't want to harass them because we want them to keep coming here and stuffing their money into the machines.

Now, you could just add it on as an additional offense if it's discovered during a traffic stop for some other reason. The problem is that Metro does not pull anyone over, even if you do something like blatantly run a red light in front of them.

[hbelkins]

Yeah, I wonder about registering a car in a state different than the one one resides in.  States typically have laws that require it after some period of time living in the state.

Must be very unlikely to be caught, though.

I'd think the "tell" would be a Texas registration and a Nevada driver's license.

Yes, but a Nevada police officer would have to have probable cause to think that a car with Texas plates is being driven by a Nevada license holder to stop them. There are plenty of Texas tourists visiting Nevada, and we don't want to harass them because we want them to keep coming here and stuffing their money into the machines.

Now, you could just add it on as an additional offense if it's discovered during a traffic stop for some other reason. The problem is that Metro does not pull anyone over, even if you do something like blatantly run a red light in front of them.

Well, then, scratch my original thought, because that's what I was going for -- a motorist gets puled over for a moving violation and gets found out.

[kernals12]

Sit rep: I passed my managerial accounting class with flying colors and applied for 3 jobs today.

[kkt]

Glad to hear that. Best wishes.

[kernals12]

Glad to hear that. Best wishes.

Thanks

[ZLoth]

My last day at my job was last Thursday. I've been updating my profile and applying for positions with some bites.

[GaryV]

applying for positions with some bites.

It took me 3 or 4 readings to figure out what you meant here. I was trying to figure out what kind of position required someone to bite something.

[kphoger]

He meant that, even though he had a bunch of mosquito bites, he went in for the interview anyway.

[Max Rockatansky]

Maybe there is some "HR disciplinary action" at play?  Ask Andy Byron, he knows all about getting some of that from HR.

[ZLoth]

applying for positions with some bites.

It took me 3 or 4 readings to figure out what you meant here. I was trying to figure out what kind of position required someone to bite something.

I be fishing for a new position in a Post-Sales Customer Success position.

[ErmineNotyours]

I got let go from a job on Thursday the 5th that I had had for three months.  The job was gathering inventory in a spare parts warehouse for a material lift machine company.  We weren't allowed to have more than two "majors" (mistakes) per month, and each of the past two months I was making about seven mistakes.  Mistakes shouldn't be that big a deal if someone catches it, but one mistake was missed down the line and it reached a customer.  I was still employed through an agency, and I never clocked in and out through the punch clocks that everyone used, but reported my time in an app at the end of the week.  I didn't like the 32 mile commute each way, so I figured if I got fired I might find a job closer to home.  And I had turned down work at a place 20 miles away because I thought that was too far to drive.  I found out I had been fired when I couldn't log in to my handheld RF device first thing in the morning, and one of the floor bosses told me to report to the on-site HR person.  She said, "Didn't you read your messages?  Well, go home.  It's just goodbye for now."  They have to be diplomatic in case the worst bad reaction happens, but I was expecting this.  I got out to my car and checked my messages, and the agency had dismissed me three minutes before work started.  I got to keep the photo ID and key card, but it probably doesn't work any more.

Because I had driven all the way out here, I drove a little down the road into the National Forest to see a wood beam suspension footbridge someone had told me about, so it wasn't a completely wasted trip.  I got another interview on Friday, but did not pass that one.  And now a friend wants me to drive him to Philadelphia to see his dying brother, so this gives me an excuse to go on a long road trip I have been wanting to go on.  Though now I can't afford to go to all the places I wanted to see.

[Rothman]

How do people provide professional references for a new job after they've been fired for incompetence?

[kkt]

How do people provide professional references for a new job after they've been fired for incompetence?

In many jobs one interacts with a lot of people, not just one's direct supervisor who was presumably the one who felt one was incompetent.  Is there anybody in the job where one was fired who would disagree?  Someone for whom one did a good job or at least got along well?  Someone who could at least say one showed up on time and didn't goof off too much while there?

If one is trying to do a good job but really doesn't understand the basics of the job, maybe further education or training is indicated.

[kphoger]

Often, following up on a reference is only "did this person actually work for you".  They don't even always ask how good of a worker he was.

[Big John]

Often, following up on a reference is only "did this person actually work for you".  They don't even always ask how good of a worker he was.

And a popular policy is to give the caller only confirmation that you worked there and dates of employment.

[Rothman]

Often, following up on a reference is only "did this person actually work for you".  They don't even always ask how good of a worker he was.

And a popular policy is to give the caller only confirmation that you worked there and dates of employment.

I've only come across that policy rarely.  I've hired a decent number of people, interviewed lots more and have turned a decent number of candidates away.  In our office, we request to contact your previous supervisor when we're preparing to make an offer.  We don't do reference/employment checks unless we're really serious about making an offer.  During our reference checks, we do ask questions about quality of work.

It's really only happened once where someone totally failed their reference check, which I thought was really sad.  After contacting their references, it really painted a picture that they didn't have a friend in the world.  Not sure if the candidate really checked with the people beforehand or if they somehow guilted them into giving us references or whatever.

[Scott5114]

Often, following up on a reference is only "did this person actually work for you".  They don't even always ask how good of a worker he was.

And a popular policy is to give the caller only confirmation that you worked there and dates of employment.

Which is because if you tell someone "Yeah, don't hire Leonard, we fired him because he did X and Y" and Leonard finds out, then he can sue you for defamation. Even if he did do X and Y, at that point you have to prove it in court, which might be easier said than done. Even if you can prove it, it gets expensive very quickly. Easier to just avoid all of that and say "He worked here from A date to B date", which at least you and Leonard can agree on.

[kphoger]

Which is because if you tell someone "Yeah, don't hire Leonard, we fired him because he did X and Y" and Leonard finds out, then he can sue you for defamation. Even if he did do X and Y, at that point you have to prove it in court, which might be easier said than done. Even if you can prove it, it gets expensive very quickly. Easier to just avoid all of that and say "He worked here from A date to B date", which at least you and Leonard can agree on.

Sometimes we get asked the question, "Would you hire this person again?"  It's still a gauge, but it avoids all details.

[wanderer2575]

Often, following up on a reference is only "did this person actually work for you".  They don't even always ask how good of a worker he was.

And a popular policy is to give the caller only confirmation that you worked there and dates of employment.

Which is because if you tell someone "Yeah, don't hire Leonard, we fired him because he did X and Y" and Leonard finds out, then he can sue you for defamation. Even if he did do X and Y, at that point you have to prove it in court, which might be easier said than done. Even if you can prove it, it gets expensive very quickly. Easier to just avoid all of that and say "He worked here from A date to B date", which at least you and Leonard can agree on.

Another big point is that it's likely that whoever is completing the employment verification request doesn't know and doesn't have access to the full story (which could be a three-part novel in itself).  While providing any information is optional, I think it's generally established that answering the question obligates one to provide a complete and correct response.

I heard many years ago of a case involving a Bad Apple with tendencies to be violent, threatening, harassing, etc. to co-workers.  When the company did a large-scale layoff, it was made sure that he was part of it.  A prospective new employer inquired about the reason for separation.  Had the former company said nothing, there would have been no problem.  But the former company responded that the reason for separation was a company downsizing, which was not the full reason.  After the individual ended up committing significant physical harm to a co-worker and the new employer found out only then that was part of the reason the individual had been let go by the previous company, said previous company found itself in a peck of legal trouble.