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Started by peterj920, May 29, 2025, 11:54:01 AM

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peterj920

It seems like WISDOT is updating signs and a lot of them do not make sense particularly along Wis 32/57 south of De Pere. The signs would point to either Chilton or Milwaukee which made sense. The sign at County PP had both cities but now only has Hilbert.


 Now all the signs point to Hilbert only which has 1200 people. Chilton is the county seat and has 4000 people. Why is it being omitted in favor of Hilbert?

South of Greenleaf the mileage sign listed Hilbert, Chilton, and Milwaukee. Now it has Hilbert, Plymouth, and Port Washington. What made WISDOT replace Milwaukee with Port Washington? I doubt anyone is following Wis 32 from Greenleaf to Port Washington.

Year ago my hometown Brillion was on a sign but omitted for Potter only which has only 250 people. What is driving the sign changes?


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Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 11:54:01 AMSouth of Greenleaf the mileage sign listed Hilbert, Chilton, and Milwaukee. Now it has Hilbert, Plymouth, and Port Washington. What made WISDOT replace Milwaukee with Port Washington? I doubt anyone is following Wis 32 from Greenleaf to Port Washington.

I doubt anyone is following Wis 32 from Greenleaf to Milwaukee either.  And, anyway, nobody is taking either 32 or 57 to any point south of Port Washington without jumping on I-43, right?  Maybe WisDOT just figures nobody really needs to know mileage past where they get on the Interstate.

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SEWIGuy

Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 11:54:01 AMNow all the signs point to Hilbert only which has 1200 people. Chilton is the county seat and has 4000 people. Why is it being omitted in favor of Hilbert?

Eliminating Milwaukee there makes perfect sense. That hasn't been the preferred route between De Pere and Milwaukee for decades. Replacing Hilbert with Chilton is probably just because it's comes first.


Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 11:54:01 AMSouth of Greenleaf the mileage sign listed Hilbert, Chilton, and Milwaukee. Now it has Hilbert, Plymouth, and Port Washington. What made WISDOT replace Milwaukee with Port Washington? I doubt anyone is following Wis 32 from Greenleaf to Port Washington.

I doubt anyone is following WI-32 from Greeleaf to Milwaukee either.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: kphoger on May 29, 2025, 12:09:54 PM
Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 11:54:01 AMSouth of Greenleaf the mileage sign listed Hilbert, Chilton, and Milwaukee. Now it has Hilbert, Plymouth, and Port Washington. What made WISDOT replace Milwaukee with Port Washington? I doubt anyone is following Wis 32 from Greenleaf to Port Washington.

I doubt anyone is following Wis 32 from Greenleaf to Milwaukee either.  And, anyway, nobody is taking either 32 or 57 to any point south of Port Washington without jumping on I-43, right?  Maybe WisDOT just figures nobody really needs to know mileage past where they get on the Interstate.


I would guess that Plymouth is about as far south as anyone is going to go without taking I-43.

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Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 29, 2025, 12:10:07 PM
Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 11:54:01 AMNow all the signs point to Hilbert only which has 1200 people. Chilton is the county seat and has 4000 people. Why is it being omitted in favor of Hilbert?

Eliminating Milwaukee there makes perfect sense. That hasn't been the preferred route between De Pere and Milwaukee for decades. Replacing Hilbert with Chilton is probably just because it's comes first.


Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 11:54:01 AMSouth of Greenleaf the mileage sign listed Hilbert, Chilton, and Milwaukee. Now it has Hilbert, Plymouth, and Port Washington. What made WISDOT replace Milwaukee with Port Washington? I doubt anyone is following Wis 32 from Greenleaf to Port Washington.

I doubt anyone is following WI-32 from Greeleaf to Milwaukee either.
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peterj920

South of De Pere people will use Wis 57 to get to Milwaukee since I-43 and I-41 take time to get to. Wis 57 was the original proposal for I-43. The remnant of the proposal is the freeway section north of I-43 and the high I-43 south bridge since there was supposed to be a big interchange with the stadium freeway there.

Anyways I bring the signage up because I'm from the area and hardly anyone is going to Hilbert but they are going to Chilton with some Milwaukee traffic on Wis 57, not 32. No one is taking Wis 32 to Port Washington so why list it?

Everyone calls the route 57 and no one calls it 32 since it was tacked on to get rid of the irrelevant stretch between De Pere and Reedsville. It's also noted that Wis 57 is a 2030 connector route between US 10 and I-43 along with a part of the National Highway System.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 06:38:13 PMSouth of De Pere people will use Wis 57 to get to Milwaukee since I-43 and I-41 take time to get to. Wis 57 was the original proposal for I-43. The remnant of the proposal is the freeway section north of I-43 and the high I-43 south bridge since there was supposed to be a big interchange with the stadium freeway there.

Anyways I bring the signage up because I'm from the area and hardly anyone is going to Hilbert but they are going to Chilton with some Milwaukee traffic on Wis 57, not 32. No one is taking Wis 32 to Port Washington so why list it?

Everyone calls the route 57 and no one calls it 32 since it was tacked on to get rid of the irrelevant stretch between De Pere and Reedsville. It's also noted that Wis 57 is a 2030 connector route between US 10 and I-43 along with a part of the National Highway System.


What am I missing? You have to drive right past Port Washington to get to Milwaukee on WI-57. And you have to drive right through Hilbert to get to Chilton.

And by the way, how do you know that people aren't going to Hilbert but they are going to Chilton?

peterj920

Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 29, 2025, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 06:38:13 PMSouth of De Pere people will use Wis 57 to get to Milwaukee since I-43 and I-41 take time to get to. Wis 57 was the original proposal for I-43. The remnant of the proposal is the freeway section north of I-43 and the high I-43 south bridge since there was supposed to be a big interchange with the stadium freeway there.

Anyways I bring the signage up because I'm from the area and hardly anyone is going to Hilbert but they are going to Chilton with some Milwaukee traffic on Wis 57, not 32. No one is taking Wis 32 to Port Washington so why list it?

Everyone calls the route 57 and no one calls it 32 since it was tacked on to get rid of the irrelevant stretch between De Pere and Reedsville. It's also noted that Wis 57 is a 2030 connector route between US 10 and I-43 along with a part of the National Highway System.


What am I missing? You have to drive right past Port Washington to get to Milwaukee on WI-57. And you have to drive right through Hilbert to get to Chilton.

And by the way, how do you know that people aren't going to Hilbert but they are going to Chilton?

Wis 57 doesn't go through Port Washington at all but Wis 32 does. Yes you have to go through Hilbert to get to Chilton but why would a city of 1200 get signing priority of a city of over 4000 that's a county seat which is only 6 miles further south?

SEWIGuy

Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 07:23:16 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 29, 2025, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: peterj920 on May 29, 2025, 06:38:13 PMSouth of De Pere people will use Wis 57 to get to Milwaukee since I-43 and I-41 take time to get to. Wis 57 was the original proposal for I-43. The remnant of the proposal is the freeway section north of I-43 and the high I-43 south bridge since there was supposed to be a big interchange with the stadium freeway there.

Anyways I bring the signage up because I'm from the area and hardly anyone is going to Hilbert but they are going to Chilton with some Milwaukee traffic on Wis 57, not 32. No one is taking Wis 32 to Port Washington so why list it?

Everyone calls the route 57 and no one calls it 32 since it was tacked on to get rid of the irrelevant stretch between De Pere and Reedsville. It's also noted that Wis 57 is a 2030 connector route between US 10 and I-43 along with a part of the National Highway System.


What am I missing? You have to drive right past Port Washington to get to Milwaukee on WI-57. And you have to drive right through Hilbert to get to Chilton.

And by the way, how do you know that people aren't going to Hilbert but they are going to Chilton?

Wis 57 doesn't go through Port Washington at all but Wis 32 does. Yes you have to go through Hilbert to get to Chilton but why would a city of 1200 get signing priority of a city of over 4000 that's a county seat which is only 6 miles further south?

Point granted on Port Washington.

But I think Hilbert was simply added because it's the next larger city along the way. It's not about priority - it's just what's next.



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