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I-55

Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 22, 2026, 09:37:56 AM01/22/2026:

What numbering system would you create for flight routes?

To convey all available information, routes will include: flight number, plane model, call sign, country code of origin, country code of destination, departure airport, runway, and time, arrival airport, runway, and time, cruising altitude, travel time, fuel required.

"Our flight will be taking route 'AA4431-E175LR-RPA-4431-1-1-ORD-27R-1418-MCO-18L-1712-36000-174-3300' today, not to be confused with our original route of 'AA4431-E175LR-RPA-4431-1-1-ORD-27L-1418-MCO-18L-1712-36000-174-3300'"
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Quote from: I-55 on April 13, 2025, 09:39:41 PMThe correct question is "if ARDOT hasn't signed it, why does Google show it?" and the answer as usual is "because Google Maps signs stuff incorrectly all the time"


kphoger

Quote from: I-55 on January 22, 2026, 10:34:35 AMTo convey all available information, routes will include: flight number, plane model, call sign, country code of origin, country code of destination, departure airport, runway, and time, arrival airport, runway, and time, cruising altitude, travel time, fuel required.

"Our flight will be taking route 'AA4431-E175LR-RPA-4431-1-1-ORD-27R-1418-MCO-18L-1712-36000-174-3300' today, not to be confused with our original route of 'AA4431-E175LR-RPA-4431-1-1-ORD-27L-1418-MCO-18L-1712-36000-174-3300'"

That would be amazing to hear over air traffic control communication.

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xonhulu

Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 22, 2026, 09:37:56 AM01/22/2026:

What numbering system would you create for flight routes?

They should all be Flight 343.

kurumi

Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 22, 2026, 09:37:56 AM01/22/2026:

What numbering system would you create for flight routes?

A BSON ObjectID. They're unique, so flight numbers will not get mixed up. They avoid the "67" problem, because it's cumbersome to make a meme out of a flight number like "695efd789357f3ba6c3339c0", and a futile gesture since you'll never see it again.

ObjectIDs also encode the start time in the first 8 hex digits for easy collation.

IMO this should be in the "best possible answer" thread instead.

Ref: https://www.mongodb.com/docs/manual/reference/method/ObjectId/
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Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 22, 2026, 09:37:56 AM01/22/2026:

What numbering system would you create for flight routes?

North–south routes get odd numbers.  East–west routes get even numbers.

Lowest numbers are in the south and west.

Major routes end with '0' or '1'.

Branch routes end with the same digits as the trunk route, just with an extra digit at the beginning, with the leading digit not following any pattern other than spur routes having an odd first digit.

Duplicate numbers are allowed.

Pattern-breaking numbers are allowed in special cases.

Commuter routes get the same number as the corresponding 'regular' route, but they're displayed in a different color.

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Male pronouns, please.

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The_Ginger

Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 22, 2026, 09:37:56 AM01/22/2026:

What numbering system would you create for flight routes?
None. All flights will not be numbered, and be referred to by the full legal name of the passenger sitting in seat π4.

Scott5114

Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 22, 2026, 09:37:56 AM01/22/2026:

What numbering system would you create for flight routes?

Would all be named like "Jade 6th route".
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hotdogPi

01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50, the routes below, and several state routes

New clinched: I-283

New traveled (from Harrisburg road meet):
I-76(E), 83
US 15, 322, 422
PA 39, 230, 441, 443, 743, 849
NJ 38

Lowest untraveled: 36

1995hoo

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.

To use an example to make sure I understand the question's intent, the highest speed limit anywhere in Maryland is 70 mph. So if I understand you, someone selecting a route from Maryland is to choose a road with a route number of 70 or lower and then give it a 70-mph speed limit, correct?

I nominate MD-70, better-known as Rowe Boulevard. It ends at the traffic circle outside the State House in Annapolis. (Pictures from AARoads.)



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hotdogPi

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 23, 2026, 09:20:22 AMTo use an example to make sure I understand the question's intent, the highest speed limit anywhere in Maryland is 70 mph. So if I understand you, someone selecting a route from Maryland is to choose a road with a route number of 70 or lower and then give it a 70-mph speed limit, correct?

You have the route number selection correct, but the new speed limit becomes the route number, not the state maximum. (It still works in your case.)
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50, the routes below, and several state routes

New clinched: I-283

New traveled (from Harrisburg road meet):
I-76(E), 83
US 15, 322, 422
PA 39, 230, 441, 443, 743, 849
NJ 38

Lowest untraveled: 36

kphoger

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.

US Route 1–9

Speed limit = –8


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
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Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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GaryV

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.

In Michigan, M-75. It's close enough to I-75 that they should have the same speed limit. Who cares about little towns with tourists traipsing through the streets?

1995hoo

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 09:24:27 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 23, 2026, 09:20:22 AMTo use an example to make sure I understand the question's intent, the highest speed limit anywhere in Maryland is 70 mph. So if I understand you, someone selecting a route from Maryland is to choose a road with a route number of 70 or lower and then give it a 70-mph speed limit, correct?

You have the route number selection correct, but the new speed limit becomes the route number, not the state maximum. (It still works in your case.)

Ah, yes. A valid point. I did misread it—or at least, I mis-explained my understanding of what I was reading. But I deliberately chose MD-70 because the notion of a 70-mph speed limit on that urban arterial is fundamentally absurd. My overall thought was that in the sense of "worst possible answer" you'd probably want to apply the highest possible speed limit allowed under state law on a road where that is utterly inappropriate. Put differently, if Route 25 runs through a residential area, then a 25-mph speed limit is to be expected.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

wanderer2575

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.

M-1 Woodward Avenue in metro Detroit.  Speed limit = 1.  Does not apply as Worst Possible Answer during the annual Woodward Dream Cruise as it's impossible to go faster than that anyway.

jlam

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.

M0 in Hungary. You must remain completely still while on the road.

vdeane

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.
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kphoger


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Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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jlam


kphoger

Quote from: jlam on January 23, 2026, 12:07:31 PMM0 in Hungary.

There are a handful of highways with a letter followed by a zero.  A better example would be the Prague ring road, D0, because its escutcheon is just {0}.



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Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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MikeTheActuary

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.

You know, for a truly imaginary answer:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/Jj6xHHHD4ZhtLe25A

The_Ginger

Jackson County Road 2/18. It has no posted speed limit, but the new limit will be 2/18, or 1/9, or 0.1 MPH.




TheCatalyst31

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.
If we go back in time a little, US 310 in Montana gets a 310 MPH speed limit. You can decide for yourself whether actually going that fast counts as "reasonable and prudent".

pderocco

Quote from: kphoger on January 22, 2026, 09:49:43 AM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 22, 2026, 09:37:56 AM01/22/2026:

What numbering system would you create for flight routes?

Sequential, based on departure time.  Number pool is worldwide.  All times are GMT.  All numbers reset to 1 at 00:00 GMT.  Numbers are based on actual departure time, not scheduled departure time.  All numbers get adjusted as flights are bumped up, delayed, added, or canceled.
That last sentence switched it from best possible answer to worst possible answer.

pderocco

Quote from: kphoger on January 22, 2026, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 22, 2026, 09:37:56 AM01/22/2026:

What numbering system would you create for flight routes?

North–south routes get odd numbers.  East–west routes get even numbers.

Lowest numbers are in the south and west.

Major routes end with '0' or '1'.

Branch routes end with the same digits as the trunk route, just with an extra digit at the beginning, with the leading digit not following any pattern other than spur routes having an odd first digit.

Duplicate numbers are allowed.

Pattern-breaking numbers are allowed in special cases.

Commuter routes get the same number as the corresponding 'regular' route, but they're displayed in a different color.
Wow. What an original idea. Wish I thought of that.

pderocco

Quote from: hotdogPi on January 23, 2026, 08:57:08 AM01/23/2026:

Pick a route with a number no greater than the region's maximum speed limit, then set the speed limit of the road to the route number.
Then the joke about "That's the route number, not the speed limit" wouldn't be funny any more.