RIP - Robert Redford

[kphoger]

It's not like Redford only appeared in a couple obscure indie films 50 years ago and quickly stepped out of the public eye.

Looking at Redford's filmography, the only one he starred in that I've actually watched was Sneakers, from 1992.  That was 33 years ago, and I was in sixth grade when it came out.  No, technically not fifty years ago, but it might as well have been.  If I ignore the comic book movies, which my wife and I have zero interest in seeing, and the animated remakes in which he's nothing but a voice-over, then here are the only movies of his I've actually heard of before:

1969 — Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (haven't seen)
1972 — The Candidate (haven't seen, only vaguely remember hearing its name before)
1975 — Three Days of the Condor (only recently learned about it, now on my list for guys' night)
1976 — All the President's Men (haven't seen, only vaguely remember hearing its name before)
1992 — Sneakers (seen it and liked it)
1992 — Directed:  A River Runs through It (seen it, meh)
1993 — Indecent Proposal (haven't seen)
1998 — The Horse Whisperer (haven't seen)

Nothing within the last 25 years.  So, while you may think that he was still a behemoth in the film world rather than someone who hasn't been in the public eye for a long time, the fact for me is that I haven't seen a movie he starred in since the early-to-mid-1990s.

Eh, I'd give a pass to Gen Alpha on not knowing Robert Redford, but you'd have to live under a rock to not know who he is otherwise, especially given his appearance in the Marvel movies.

I knew who Robert Redford was, and I don't live under a rock.  But I've never seen a Marvel movie and have no interest in seeing one.  Neither does my wife.  Not everyone is into comic books.

I admire what Robert Redford did founding the Sundance Institute and Sundance Film Festival.

Meanwhile, I didn't know until reading your post that he's the one who started the Sundance Film Festival.  I had a general idea of what the film festival was, but not who started it.

[Molandfreak]

Eh, I'd give a pass to Gen Alpha on not knowing Robert Redford, but you'd have to live under a rock to not know who he is otherwise, especially given his appearance in the Marvel movies.

I knew who Robert Redford was, and I don't live under a rock.  But I've never seen a Marvel movie and have no interest in seeing one.  Neither does my wife.  Not everyone is into comic books.

I'm not into comic books either, but I still was familiar with most of the Marvel movies and who starred in them (I haven't watched all of them, but I've seen quite a few up until Endgame). As a ubiquitous part of 2010s culture, I would think most people who grew up then would at least have some familiarity with the plotlines, major characters, and actors in these films even if they haven't seen them.

Just for a comparable cultural impact: I wasn't into any Transformers media when the Michael Bay movies were produced, but I still knew the premise, characters, and actors who starred in them, and eventually watched them to be able to participate in discussions about them/understand the references my classmates were making. Yeah, I wouldn't fault a person significantly younger than me for not knowing who Shia LaBeouf or Megan Fox are, but it would be strange to hear someone my age who doesn't at least have some understanding about the Michael Bay Transformers franchise. That doesn't make them top-tier cinematic masterpieces, it just reflects the culture of the time.

Sure, Robert Redford may not be the biggest name attached the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but you'd seriously have to be living under a rock if you were a teenager in the mid-to-late 2010s and don't know who Robert Downey, Jr. or Chris Evans are.

[hotdogPi]

1969 — Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (haven't seen)
1972 — The Candidate (haven't seen, only vaguely remember hearing its name before)
1975 — Three Days of the Condor (only recently learned about it, now on my list for guys' night)
1976 — All the President's Men (haven't seen, only vaguely remember hearing its name before)
1992 — Sneakers (seen it and liked it)
1992 — Directed:  A River Runs through It (seen it, meh)
1993 — Indecent Proposal (haven't seen)
1998 — The Horse Whisperer (haven't seen)

This will probably shock some of you, but the only one of these I've heard of is All the President's Men. I haven't heard of The Natural or Captain America: The Winter Soldier either.

[kphoger]

Michael Bay
Shia LaBeouf
Megan Fox
Robert Downey, Jr.
Chris Evans

Of those names, there's only one that I wouldn't have to look up to find out who they are.  That's Robert Downey Jr, and I think the only movie of his that I've seen is Dolittle.  We do own Weird Science as part of a classic 1980s DVD set, but we haven't watched that one yet.

[Molandfreak]

Michael Bay
Shia LaBeouf
Megan Fox
Robert Downey, Jr.
Chris Evans

You're missing out on some quality content with his portrayal of Sherlock Holmes.
Of those names, there's only one that I wouldn't have to look up to find out who they are.  That's Robert Downey Jr, and I think the only movie of his that I've seen is Dolittle.

You're missing out on some quality content with Downey's portrayal of Sherlock Holmes.

[JayhawkCO]

Michael Bay
Shia LaBeouf
Megan Fox
Robert Downey, Jr.
Chris Evans

Of those names, there's only one that I wouldn't have to look up to find out who they are.  That's Robert Downey Jr, and I think the only movie of his that I've seen is Dolittle.  We do own Weird Science as part of a classic 1980s DVD set, but we haven't watched that one yet.

You're missing out with prime Megan Fox. Not just a clever name.

[kphoger]

You're missing out on some quality content with Downey's portrayal of Sherlock Holmes.

We've considered watching one of the newer Sherlock Holmes movies, but I've read reviews saying they're not that great.

You're missing out with prime Megan Fox. Not just a clever name.

Just looked.  Other than Transformers, I haven't heard of a single one.

[JayhawkCO]

You're missing out on some quality content with Downey's portrayal of Sherlock Holmes.

We've considered watching one of the newer Sherlock Holmes movies, but I've read reviews saying they're not that great.

You're missing out with prime Megan Fox. Not just a clever name.

Just looked.  Other than Transformers, I haven't heard of a single one.

Oh, I don't care about her movies.

[1995hoo]

1969 — Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (haven't seen)
1972 — The Candidate (haven't seen, only vaguely remember hearing its name before)
1975 — Three Days of the Condor (only recently learned about it, now on my list for guys' night)
1976 — All the President's Men (haven't seen, only vaguely remember hearing its name before)
1992 — Sneakers (seen it and liked it)
1992 — Directed:  A River Runs through It (seen it, meh)
1993 — Indecent Proposal (haven't seen)
1998 — The Horse Whisperer (haven't seen)

This will probably shock some of you, but the only one of these I've heard of is All the President's Men. I haven't heard of The Natural or Captain America: The Winter Soldier either.

I find the boldfaced astonishing simply because that movie is so widely considered so iconic.

[JayhawkCO]

1969 — Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (haven't seen)
1972 — The Candidate (haven't seen, only vaguely remember hearing its name before)
1975 — Three Days of the Condor (only recently learned about it, now on my list for guys' night)
1976 — All the President's Men (haven't seen, only vaguely remember hearing its name before)
1992 — Sneakers (seen it and liked it)
1992 — Directed:  A River Runs through It (seen it, meh)
1993 — Indecent Proposal (haven't seen)
1998 — The Horse Whisperer (haven't seen)

This will probably shock some of you, but the only one of these I've heard of is All the President's Men. I haven't heard of The Natural or Captain America: The Winter Soldier either.

I find the boldfaced astonishing simply because that movie is so widely considered so iconic.

I'm 43 and have heard of it. I don't think I've ever seen it other than the scene at the end with the lights breaking. But I don't think it's that iconic for at least my age and younger.

[kphoger]

I think I was born in the same year as |JayhawkCO|, I've never heard of it.

Last year, I spent a few days combing through the internet to compile a list of classic films that I could watch with a bunch of guys from church every so often at our house.  Reddit threads, IMDB, etc.  I ruled out a lot of them but still ended up with a list of a few dozen movies.  And, during that whole process, I don't think The Natural ever crossed my radar.

[Max Rockatansky]

You're missing out on some quality content with Downey's portrayal of Sherlock Holmes.

We've considered watching one of the newer Sherlock Holmes movies, but I've read reviews saying they're not that great.

You're missing out with prime Megan Fox. Not just a clever name.

Just looked.  Other than Transformers, I haven't heard of a single one.

Oh, I don't care about her movies.

It is strange watching Jennifer's Body.  At the time it was new Meagan Fox is someone I found way more attractive than Amanda Seyfried.  Seyfried got way more attractive as she aged and Fox went for the Crypt Keeper look.

[vdeane]

I vaguely knew about Charlie Kirk only because him being the first guest on Gavin Newsome's podcast (and many of the comments that Gavin Newsome made) was a big topic a few weeks ago on a subreddit I follow.  Oddly enough, I'm also more familiar with John Wayne than Robert Redford (in that I knew off the top of my head who he was), despite being in my 30s.  Following celebrities isn't really my thing (I mainly find out about them if they release a song I really like, or make a big impression in a movie or TV show, or become major characters in Star Trek or Doctor Who, both of which I follow closely enough to know the actors).

[DTComposer]

FWIW, this web site has a "top movie stars of the xxxxs" - it's a little subjective but uses an aggregate of box office, awards, and reviews.

I'm not a movie buff by any stretch (nowadays I see maybe two a year in theaters and maybe three more on TV), but I could tell you at least a couple of movies and/or factoids about nearly everyone on this list (not Greer Garson, Teresa Wright, Norma Shearer).

Some of this is my age (middle Gen X), so I saw most of the "big" movies these stars were in from the 1970s onward; and the fact that, since we only had a handful of TV channels growing up, our choices for weekend viewing were small - so I saw a lot of older movies that way.

Half of the 2010s list is on there because of Marvel - I wonder what the list would be without those movies.

It's also disheartening how few women are on this list, including none for the 1990s and 2000s.

_	_	_	_	_
2010s	|	2000s	|	1990s
Leonardo DiCaprio	|	Leonardo DiCaprio	|	Tom Hanks
Robert Downey, Jr.	|	Tom Cruise	|	Tom Cruise
Vin Diesel	|	Russell Crowe	|	Jim Carrey
Chadwick Boseman	|	Tom Hanks	|	Matt Damon
Gwyneth Paltrow	|	Orlando Bloom	|	Mel Gibson
Scarlett Johansson	|	Brad Pitt	|	Harrison Ford
Tom Hardy	|	Will Smith	|	Al Pacino
Jeremy Renner	|	Seth Rogen	|	Arnold Schwarzenegger
Michael Keaton	|	Viggo Mortensen	|	Tommy Lee Jones
Chris Evans	|	Mel Gibson	|	Kevin Spacey
Mark Ruffalo	|	Denzel Washington	|	Pierce Brosnan
Jonah Hill	|	George Clooney	|	Gene Hackman
Benedict Cumberbatch	|	Jim Carrey	|	Morgan Freeman
Jennifer Lawrence	|	Johnny Depp	|	Kevin Costner
Bryce Dallas Howard	|	Steve Carell	|	Robin Williams
_	_	_	_	_
1980s	|	1970s	|	1960s
Harrison Ford	|	Al Pacino	|	Peter O'Toole
Bill Murray	|	Robert Redford	|	Audrey Hepburn
Eddie Murphy	|	Diane Keaton	|	Jack Lemmon
Michael Douglas	|	Woody Allen	|	John Wayne
Sigourney Weaver	|	Dustin Hoffman	|	Lee Marvin
William Hurt	|	Barbra Streisand	|	Natalie Wood
Tom Cruise	|	Faye Dunaway	|	Sean Connery
Glenn Close	|	Richard Dreyfuss	|	Omar Sharif
Tom Berenger	|	Clint Eastwood	|	Steve McQueen
Christopher Lloyd	|	Ellen Burstyn	|	Gregory Peck
Kathleen Turner	|	Roy Scheider	|	Richard Harris
Jack Nicholson	|	Julie Christie	|	Paul Newman
Meryl Streep	|	Jane Fonda	|	Hayley Mills
Danny DeVito	|	Jack Nicholson	|	Burt Lancaster
Dan Aykroyd	|	Harrison Ford	|	Sidney Poitier
_	_	_	_	_
1950s	|	1940s	|	1930s
Marlon Brando	|	Katharine Hepburn	|	Fred Astaire
Grace Kelly	|	Teresa Wright	|	The Marx Brothers
James Stewart	|	Gregory Peck	|	Tyrone Power
Yul Brynner	|	Gary Cooper	|	Norma Shearer
Danny Kaye	|	Ingrid Bergman	|	Judy Garland
Elizabeth Taylor	|	Judy Garland	|	Greta Garbo
Frank Sinatra	|	Bing Crosby	|	James Stewart
Dean Martin	|	Bob Hope	|	David Niven
William Holden	|	Greer Garson	|	Charles Laughton
Montgomery Clift	|	Cary Grant	|	Errol Flynn
Jerry Lewis	|	Clark Gable	|	Shirley Temple
Burt Lancaster	|	Bette Davis	|	Clark Gable
Humphrey Bogart	|	Olivia de Havilland	|	Jean Arthur
John Wayne	|	Spencer Tracy	|	Marlene Dietrich
Cary Grant	|	Celeste Holm	|	Ginger Rogers
_	_	_	_	_

[JayhawkCO]

Bolding those I haven't heard of off the top of my head. Born in 1982.

_	_	_	_	_
2010s	|	2000s	|	1990s
Leonardo DiCaprio	|	Leonardo DiCaprio	|	Tom Hanks
Robert Downey, Jr.	|	Tom Cruise	|	Tom Cruise
Vin Diesel	|	Russell Crowe	|	Jim Carrey
Chadwick Boseman	|	Tom Hanks	|	Matt Damon
Gwyneth Paltrow	|	Orlando Bloom	|	Mel Gibson
Scarlett Johansson	|	Brad Pitt	|	Harrison Ford
Tom Hardy	|	Will Smith	|	Al Pacino
Jeremy Renner	|	Seth Rogen	|	Arnold Schwarzenegger
Michael Keaton	|	Viggo Mortensen	|	Tommy Lee Jones
Chris Evans	|	Mel Gibson	|	Kevin Spacey
Mark Ruffalo	|	Denzel Washington	|	Pierce Brosnan
Jonah Hill	|	George Clooney	|	Gene Hackman
Benedict Cumberbatch	|	Jim Carrey	|	Morgan Freeman
Jennifer Lawrence	|	Johnny Depp	|	Kevin Costner
Bryce Dallas Howard	|	Steve Carell	|	Robin Williams
_	_	_	_	_
1980s	|	1970s	|	1960s
Harrison Ford	|	Al Pacino	|	Peter O'Toole
Bill Murray	|	Robert Redford	|	Audrey Hepburn
Eddie Murphy	|	Diane Keaton	|	Jack Lemmon
Michael Douglas	|	Woody Allen	|	John Wayne
Sigourney Weaver	|	Dustin Hoffman	|	Lee Marvin
William Hurt	|	Barbra Streisand	|	Natalie Wood
Tom Cruise	|	Faye Dunaway	|	Sean Connery
Glenn Close	|	Richard Dreyfuss	|	Omar Sharif
Tom Berenger	|	Clint Eastwood	|	Steve McQueen
Christopher Lloyd	|	Ellen Burstyn	|	Gregory Peck
Kathleen Turner	|	Roy Scheider	|	Richard Harris
Jack Nicholson	|	Julie Christie	|	Paul Newman
Meryl Streep	|	Jane Fonda	|	Hayley Mills
Danny DeVito	|	Jack Nicholson	|	Burt Lancaster
Dan Aykroyd	|	Harrison Ford	|	Sidney Poitier
_	_	_	_	_
1950s	|	1940s	|	1930s
Marlon Brando	|	Katharine Hepburn	|	Fred Astaire
Grace Kelly	|	Teresa Wright	|	The Marx Brothers
James Stewart	|	Gregory Peck	|	Tyrone Power
Yul Brynner	|	Gary Cooper	|	Norma Shearer
Danny Kaye	|	Ingrid Bergman	|	Judy Garland
Elizabeth Taylor	|	Judy Garland	|	Greta Garbo
Frank Sinatra	|	Bing Crosby	|	James Stewart
Dean Martin	|	Bob Hope	|	David Niven
William Holden	|	Greer Garson	|	Charles Laughton
Montgomery Clift	|	Cary Grant	|	Errol Flynn
Jerry Lewis	|	Clark Gable	|	Shirley Temple
Burt Lancaster	|	Bette Davis	|	Clark Gable
Humphrey Bogart	|	Olivia de Havilland	|	Jean Arthur
John Wayne	|	Spencer Tracy	|	Marlene Dietrich
Cary Grant	|	Celeste Holm	|	Ginger Rogers
_	_	_	_	_

[kphoger]

I also see that Robert Redford hasn't made the list since the 1970s.

Born in 1981.

[Max Rockatansky]

I was born in 1982.  In my case the 1970s is probably my favorite film decade.

[1995hoo]

OK, I'll play. Boldfaced names are ones I don't recognize off the top of my head. I was born in 1973. I note that just because I may recognize a name doesn't mean I've seen any movies starring that actor or actress, and likewise my not recognizing a name doesn't mean I haven't necessarily seen any of that person's movies (e.g., I just looked up Tom Berenger on Wikipedia and saw he was in Platoon, which I definitely saw, but I didn't recognize him from the picture they have on his article).

_	_	_	_	_
2010s	|	2000s	|	1990s
Leonardo DiCaprio	|	Leonardo DiCaprio	|	Tom Hanks
Robert Downey, Jr.	|	Tom Cruise	|	Tom Cruise
Vin Diesel	|	Russell Crowe	|	Jim Carrey
Chadwick Boseman	|	Tom Hanks	|	Matt Damon
Gwyneth Paltrow	|	Orlando Bloom	|	Mel Gibson
Scarlett Johansson	|	Brad Pitt	|	Harrison Ford
Tom Hardy	|	Will Smith	|	Al Pacino
Jeremy Renner	|	Seth Rogen	|	Arnold Schwarzenegger
Michael Keaton	|	Viggo Mortensen	|	Tommy Lee Jones
Chris Evans	|	Mel Gibson	|	Kevin Spacey
Mark Ruffalo	|	Denzel Washington	|	Pierce Brosnan
Jonah Hill	|	George Clooney	|	Gene Hackman
Benedict Cumberbatch	|	Jim Carrey	|	Morgan Freeman
Jennifer Lawrence	|	Johnny Depp	|	Kevin Costner
Bryce Dallas Howard	|	Steve Carell	|	Robin Williams
_	_	_	_	_
1980s	|	1970s	|	1960s
Harrison Ford	|	Al Pacino	|	Peter O'Toole
Bill Murray	|	Robert Redford	|	Audrey Hepburn
Eddie Murphy	|	Diane Keaton	|	Jack Lemmon
Michael Douglas	|	Woody Allen	|	John Wayne
Sigourney Weaver	|	Dustin Hoffman	|	Lee Marvin
William Hurt	|	Barbra Streisand	|	Natalie Wood
Tom Cruise	|	Faye Dunaway	|	Sean Connery
Glenn Close	|	Richard Dreyfuss	|	Omar Sharif
Tom Berenger	|	Clint Eastwood	|	Steve McQueen
Christopher Lloyd	|	Ellen Burstyn	|	Gregory Peck
Kathleen Turner	|	Roy Scheider	|	Richard Harris
Jack Nicholson	|	Julie Christie	|	Paul Newman
Meryl Streep	|	Jane Fonda	|	Hayley Mills
Danny DeVito	|	Jack Nicholson	|	Burt Lancaster
Dan Aykroyd	|	Harrison Ford	|	Sidney Poitier
_	_	_	_	_
1950s	|	1940s	|	1930s
Marlon Brando	|	Katharine Hepburn	|	Fred Astaire
Grace Kelly	|	Teresa Wright	|	The Marx Brothers
James Stewart	|	Gregory Peck	|	Tyrone Power
Yul Brynner	|	Gary Cooper	|	Norma Shearer
Danny Kaye	|	Ingrid Bergman	|	Judy Garland
Elizabeth Taylor	|	Judy Garland	|	Greta Garbo
Frank Sinatra	|	Bing Crosby	|	James Stewart
Dean Martin	|	Bob Hope	|	David Niven
William Holden	|	Greer Garson	|	Charles Laughton
Montgomery Clift	|	Cary Grant	|	Errol Flynn
Jerry Lewis	|	Clark Gable	|	Shirley Temple
Burt Lancaster	|	Bette Davis	|	Clark Gable
Humphrey Bogart	|	Olivia de Havilland	|	Jean Arthur
John Wayne	|	Spencer Tracy	|	Marlene Dietrich
Cary Grant	|	Celeste Holm	|	Ginger Rogers
_	_	_	_	_

[JayhawkCO]

I just looked up Tom Berenger on Wikipedia and saw he was in Platoon, which I definitely saw, but I didn't recognize him from the picture they have on his article.

Most memorable for me for being Jake Taylor in Major League.

[1995hoo]

I just looked up Tom Berenger on Wikipedia and saw he was in Platoon, which I definitely saw, but I didn't recognize him from the picture they have on his article.

Most memorable for me for being Jake Taylor in Major League.

I saw that movie, but I don't really remember most of it. The main thing I remember is Charlie Sheen's character and the use of the song "Wild Thing." That song was written by the father of someone I knew in law school.

[JayhawkCO]

I just looked up Tom Berenger on Wikipedia and saw he was in Platoon, which I definitely saw, but I didn't recognize him from the picture they have on his article.

Most memorable for me for being Jake Taylor in Major League.

I saw that movie, but I don't really remember most of it. The main thing I remember is Charlie Sheen's character and the use of the song "Wild Thing." That song was written by the father of someone I knew in law school.

Probably the R-rated movie I saw the most in my life until I turned 17.

[1995hoo]

I just looked up Tom Berenger on Wikipedia and saw he was in Platoon, which I definitely saw, but I didn't recognize him from the picture they have on his article.

Most memorable for me for being Jake Taylor in Major League.

I saw that movie, but I don't really remember most of it. The main thing I remember is Charlie Sheen's character and the use of the song "Wild Thing." That song was written by the father of someone I knew in law school.

Probably the R-rated movie I saw the most in my life until I turned 17.

For me that would be Animal House.

[Max Rockatansky]

My dad used to take me to R rated movies all the time when I was a little kid.  I recall my mom being furious over RoboCop in particular.  The reasons for her anger went over my head at the time.

[Bobby5280]

But see, I don't consume anything created by the entertainment industry, nor news/entertainment media, because I don't have to anymore; I don't have to wait for Entertainment Tonight to be over before I can watch the local news like I used to. I have no idea who the currently-active crop of actors with stature comparable to Robert Redford is, for instance.

That might be you, but most Americans do watch movies, even if the majority of those people only watch movies on their TV screens at home. America's movie industry is not only a key driver of our popular culture, it drives a great deal of world popular culture. American movies have been a global thing for long time.

I can understand someone not yet adult age truly not knowing who Robert Redford was. Just about any American any older will have at least heard of the guy unless they've been completely disconnected the Internet, television and any output or news about the entertainment industry.

Regarding stature, star power, etc. none of the actors in movies or TV currently in their youthful prime have any star power like Robert Redford did in the 1970's. That's not to imply current actors suck. Movies just aren't nearly as star-driven as they were in the past. They're more effects-driven spectacles, all designed to sell to a global audience. That's one reason why we're not seeing nearly as many great comedies being made now compared to movie output in the past.

Pfft. I was a young kid when John Wayne died. News was for adults. I was busy playing with toys.

When it came to movies in 1979 I was more obsessed with movies like "Star Wars," "Superman" and "Alien." Despite it being R-rated my parents took my brother and I to see "Alien" a few months after it debuted in the US. We were on a Marine Corps base in Japan and had to wait awhile for it to play at the base theater. Still, I knew who John Wayne was before he died and remember it being big news when he died. Back then the only John Wayne movie I had sat thru was "The Cowboys" (1972). It was a afternoon matinee at that same base theater in Japan. Later in adulthood I grew to appreciate some of John Wayne's earlier movies, particularly "The Searchers."

I was born in 1982.  In my case the 1970s is probably my favorite film decade.

I think the 1970's was a peak era of the American movie industry. That was the last decade where Hollywood's movie studios took a lot of serious chances. Even "Star Wars" was one hell of a gamble back then. Since then it has been a long slide into increasingly predictable territory (we can blame that on "Star Wars" too). Today, a lot of series TV is objectively better than what Hollywood studios are putting into 2 hour movies.

[kphoger]

That might be you, but most Americans do watch movies, even if the majority of those people only watch movies on their TV screens at home. America's movie industry is not only a key driver of our popular culture, it drives a great deal of world popular culture.

Multiple people in this thread have commented that they don't know much about movies or even watch them.  Our point is that people should take into consideration the fact that multiple people on the forum will not have heard of a person or know why he or she is famous, unless you post the subject line or OP of the RIP thread something about them.

Regarding stature, star power, etc. none of the actors in movies or TV currently in their youthful prime have any star power like Robert Redford did in the 1970's.

The 1970s were fifty years ago.  That's over a decade more than our country's median age.  More people were born after the 1980s than were alive during the 1980s.  Redord's star power in the 1970s is almost irrelevant, and growing more so with every passing year.