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Francis Scott Key Bridge thread 2.0

Started by hbelkins, November 18, 2025, 01:44:12 PM

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kphoger

Quote from: Beltway on November 27, 2025, 10:44:48 PMI need to come up with a nickname for this poster.

Nickname ideas
- Captain Compliance - always waving the DOT rulebook.
- Manual Man - as if every post is a spec sheet citation.
- Mr. 19,515 - a nod to his post count obsession.
- The Forum Foreman - barking orders like he's running a job site.
- Spec Sheet Sage - convinced every detail must be benchmarked against a manual.
- Bridge Troll - lurking under every thread, ready to pounce.
- DOT Oracle - speaks as if his word is policy.
- The Dichotomy Dude - riffing off that "bizarre dichotomy" line.

I want to be Enrique Velásquez Maribona Serrano, please.

Quote from: vdeane on December 02, 2025, 09:46:24 PMThe boat is a lie

There was no Key Bridge.  The documents are forgeries, and the photos are fakes.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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Beltway

Quote from: kphoger on December 11, 2025, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: Beltway on November 27, 2025, 10:44:48 PMI need to come up with a nickname for this poster.
Nickname ideas
- Captain Compliance - always waving the DOT rulebook.
- Manual Man - as if every post is a spec sheet citation.
- Mr. 19,515 - a nod to his post count obsession.
- The Forum Foreman - barking orders like he's running a job site.
- Spec Sheet Sage - convinced every detail must be benchmarked against a manual.
- Bridge Troll - lurking under every thread, ready to pounce.
- DOT Oracle - speaks as if his word is policy.
- The Dichotomy Dude - riffing off that "bizarre dichotomy" line.
I want to be Enrique Velásquez Maribona Serrano, please.
I will take it under consideration, but I don't think you warrant a nickname at this point.

I found out some things yesterday and I think I need to revise that list.
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Beltway

Final NTSB report has been completed and released. 257 pages long.
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/MIR2540.pdf

Contact of Containership Dali with Francis Scott Key Bridge and Subsequent Bridge Collapse
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA24MM031.aspx

Highways pertinent recommendation. This very strong language for the NTSB.

Part of the Probable Cause --
Contributing to the collapse of the Key Bridge and the loss of life was the lack of countermeasures to reduce the bridge's vulnerability to collapse due to impact by ocean-going vessels, which could have been implemented if a vulnerability assessment had been conducted by the Maryland Transportation Authority as recommended by the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials.

Part of the Recommendations --

To the Bay Area Toll Authority, the California Department of Transportation, the Golden Gate Bridge Highway and Transportation District, the US Army Corps of Engineers, the Florida Department of Transportation, the Georgia Department of Transportation, Skyway Concession Company LLC, the Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development, the New Orleans Public Belt Railroad, the Maryland Transportation Authority, the Massachusetts Department of Transportation, the Mackinac Bridge Authority, the New Hampshire Department of Transportation, the Delaware River Port Authority, the New Jersey Turnpike Authority, Metropolitan Transportation Authority Bridges and Tunnels, the New York City Department of Transportation, the New York State Bridge Authority, the Ogdensburg Bridge and Port Authority, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the Seaway International Bridge Corporation, the Thousand Islands Bridge Authority, the Ohio Department of Transportation, the Oregon Department of Transportation, the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, the Rhode Island Turnpike and Bridge Authority, the Harris County Toll Road Authority, the Texas Department of Transportation, the Washington State Department of Transportation, and the Wisconsin Department of Transportation:

Calculate the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO) Method II annual frequency of collapse for the bridge(s) identified in appendix B of this report for which you are responsible and inform the National Transportation Safety Board whether the probability of collapse is above the AASHTO threshold. (Urgent H-25-3)
If the calculations that you performed in response to Safety Recommendation H-25-3 indicate that a bridge has an annual frequency of collapse greater than the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials threshold, develop and implement a comprehensive risk reduction plan that includes, at a minimum:
guidance and assistance from the Federal Highway Administration, US Coast Guard, and US Army Corps of Engineers Interdisciplinary Team identified in Safety Recommendations H-25-1 and H-25-2, and
short- and long-term strategies to reduce the probability of a potential bridge collapse from a vessel collision. (Urgent 25-4)

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National Transportation Safety Board -- NTSB is an independent U.S. federal agency that investigates accidents across aviation, highway, marine, pipeline, and rail transportation to determine causes and issue safety recommendations. Not for litigation purposes.
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Max Rockatansky

I swear Dead Internet Theory is becoming more an actual reality by the day.

Beltway

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 12, 2025, 09:11:26 AMI swear Dead Internet Theory is becoming more an actual reality by the day.

The Maryland Transportation Authority (MDTA) pulled a rock.
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Great Lakes Roads


A progress update on the FSK Bridge rebuild.
-Jay Seaburg

Clinched States (Interstates): AL, AZ, DE, FL, HI, KS, MN, NE, NH, RI, VT, WI

Plutonic Panda

So it seems to me like if all goes according to plan this bridge will be finishing construction around the same time the Chesapeake Bridge starts construction. Is that right?

Beltway

They still haven't explained the massive $3 billion cost estimate overrun.
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Great Lakes Roads

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on December 17, 2025, 05:15:37 PMSo it seems to me like if all goes according to plan this bridge will be finishing construction around the same time the Chesapeake Bridge starts construction. Is that right?

FSK Bridge Replacement completion - late 2030 (starts construction in 2026)
Chesapeake Bridge Replacement start - 2032 (probably going to take 8-10 years to complete)
-Jay Seaburg

Clinched States (Interstates): AL, AZ, DE, FL, HI, KS, MN, NE, NH, RI, VT, WI

NE2

Quote from: Beltway on December 17, 2025, 05:29:08 PMThey still haven't explained the massive $3 billion cost estimate overrun.
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Beltway

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on December 17, 2025, 05:50:20 PMFSK Bridge Replacement completion - late 2030 (starts construction in 2026)
Chesapeake Bridge Replacement start - 2032 (probably going to take 8-10 years to complete)
Where is the money coming from?
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
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Scott5114

Quote from: Beltway on December 17, 2025, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on December 17, 2025, 05:50:20 PMFSK Bridge Replacement completion - late 2030 (starts construction in 2026)
Chesapeake Bridge Replacement start - 2032 (probably going to take 8-10 years to complete)
Where is the money coming from?

They're taxing everyone based on the number of times they posted about the Key Bridge on AARoads.
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Beltway

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 17, 2025, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 17, 2025, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on December 17, 2025, 05:50:20 PMFSK Bridge Replacement completion - late 2030 (starts construction in 2026)
Chesapeake Bridge Replacement start - 2032 (probably going to take 8-10 years to complete)
Where is the money coming from?
They're taxing everyone based on the number of times they posted about the Key Bridge on AARoads.
Money is fungible. One post equals one cubic yard of 7,000 psi concrete.

Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
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Scott5114

Quote from: Beltway on December 17, 2025, 10:41:44 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 17, 2025, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 17, 2025, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on December 17, 2025, 05:50:20 PMFSK Bridge Replacement completion - late 2030 (starts construction in 2026)
Chesapeake Bridge Replacement start - 2032 (probably going to take 8-10 years to complete)
Where is the money coming from?
They're taxing everyone based on the number of times they posted about the Key Bridge on AARoads.
Money is fungible. One post equals one cubic yard of 7,000 psi concrete.

When I was a casino cashier I had people bring money to the counter that was so fungible I sprayed it down with hand sanitizer.
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

kphoger


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Beltway

#115
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 12:21:41 AM
Quote from: Beltway on December 17, 2025, 10:41:44 PMMoney is fungible. One post equals one cubic yard of 7,000 psi concrete.
When I was a casino cashier I had people bring money to the counter that was so fungible I sprayed it down with hand sanitizer.
The casino industry is known for --
-- Having a set of rules that is strictly followed
-- Having a set of rules that is designed to favor the house

Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: Beltway on December 17, 2025, 05:29:08 PMThey still haven't explained the massive $3 billion cost estimate overrun.
Quote from: NE2 on December 17, 2025, 06:09:11 PM🐬🐬🐬
Quote from: Beltway on December 17, 2025, 08:22:26 PMWhere is the money coming from?
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Porkypotamus doesn't have that kind of money.
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Max Rockatansky

Someone wasn't paying attention when the Duke brothers lost big gambling on futures for pork bellies.

Scott5114

Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PMThe casino industry is known for --
-- Having a set of rules that is strictly followed
-- Having a set of rules that is designed to favor the house

Thank you for letting me know. I could have never put that together from only ten years of working there.
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

jmacswimmer

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 18, 2025, 12:29:28 PMSomeone wasn't paying attention when the Duke brothers lost big gambling on futures for pork bellies.

Wasn't it frozen concentrated orange juice?
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"How would they compete?"
"Let's say they rode together in a big buss."
"Is Ditka driving?"
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"Then I like da Bear buss."
"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

Max Rockatansky

#119
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 18, 2025, 12:41:14 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 18, 2025, 12:29:28 PMSomeone wasn't paying attention when the Duke brothers lost big gambling on futures for pork bellies.

Wasn't it frozen concentrated orange juice?

You're right, they made money on the pork bellies.


kphoger

Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 09:37:17 AM🐖🐖🐖
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PMPorkypotamus doesn't have that kind of money.

They're piggy banks.

I still have hopes that it will pass.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Beltway

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 12:31:02 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PMThe casino industry is known for --
-- Having a set of rules that is strictly followed
-- Having a set of rules that is designed to favor the house
Thank you for letting me know. I could have never put that together from only ten years of working there.
MS Copilot told me all that several months ago when I asked for a profile.
Even the AI thinks you nitpick too much.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
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kphoger

Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 01:50:52 PMMS Copilot told me all that several months ago when I asked for a profile.
Even the AI thinks you nitpick too much.

You must be more skilled at the AI than I am.  All I get is stuff like this:


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Max Rockatansky

Branded Algorithms are not capable of forming an opinion since they aren't actual artificial intelligence.  It seems someone else got onto that AI hype train (or ship?) with K12. 

Beltway

You need to know how to ask questio
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 02:04:41 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 01:50:52 PMMS Copilot told me all that several months ago when I asked for a profile.
Even the AI thinks you nitpick too much.
You must be more skilled at the AI than I am.  All I get is stuff like this:
Garbage in, garbage out -- AI is just a mirror with better grammar.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
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