News:

See the Forum Status page for any planned Forum maintenance or alerts on Forum outages.

Main Menu

Francis Scott Key Bridge thread 2.0

Started by hbelkins, November 18, 2025, 01:44:12 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Plutonic Panda

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 12:31:02 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PMThe casino industry is known for --
-- Having a set of rules that is strictly followed
-- Having a set of rules that is designed to favor the house

Thank you for letting me know. I could have never put that together from only ten years of working there.
You can finally rest easy tonight now that you know the ins and outs of the industry you work in.


Scott5114

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on December 18, 2025, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 12:31:02 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PMThe casino industry is known for --
-- Having a set of rules that is strictly followed
-- Having a set of rules that is designed to favor the house

Thank you for letting me know. I could have never put that together from only ten years of working there.
You can finally rest easy tonight now that you know the ins and outs of the industry you work in.

It always kept me up at night wondering how my paycheck cleared after I paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars to winners every day. Golly, now that Beltway told me casino rules are designed to favor the house, I feel like I'll finally get the first good night's sleep I've had in a decade.
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

PColumbus73

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on December 18, 2025, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 12:31:02 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PMThe casino industry is known for --
-- Having a set of rules that is strictly followed
-- Having a set of rules that is designed to favor the house

Thank you for letting me know. I could have never put that together from only ten years of working there.
You can finally rest easy tonight now that you know the ins and outs of the industry you work in.

It always kept me up at night wondering how my paycheck cleared after I paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars to winners every day. Golly, now that Beltway told me casino rules are designed to favor the house, I feel like I'll finally get the first good night's sleep I've had in a decade.

I just thought you were a reformed mobster

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: PColumbus73 on December 18, 2025, 03:00:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on December 18, 2025, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 12:31:02 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PMThe casino industry is known for --
-- Having a set of rules that is strictly followed
-- Having a set of rules that is designed to favor the house

Thank you for letting me know. I could have never put that together from only ten years of working there.
You can finally rest easy tonight now that you know the ins and outs of the industry you work in.

It always kept me up at night wondering how my paycheck cleared after I paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars to winners every day. Golly, now that Beltway told me casino rules are designed to favor the house, I feel like I'll finally get the first good night's sleep I've had in a decade.

I just thought you were a reformed mobster

For all you know he could still be one.  He did move to Las Vegas after all.

kphoger


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

formulanone

Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 02:44:28 PMYou need to know how to ask questio
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 02:04:41 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 01:50:52 PMMS Copilot told me all that several months ago when I asked for a profile.
Even the AI thinks you nitpick too much.
You must be more skilled at the AI than I am.  All I get is stuff like this:
Garbage in, garbage out -- AI is just a mirror with better grammar.

And yet you're using it to reinforce your negative opinions of others, and gaslighting us to believe it's a mountain of facts.

But in my own words: that makes you a pathological turd slinger without redeeming qualities and no substance of your own.

Your retirement must really suck.

Beltway

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on December 18, 2025, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2025, 12:31:02 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PMThe casino industry is known for --
-- Having a set of rules that is strictly followed
-- Having a set of rules that is designed to favor the house
Thank you for letting me know. I could have never put that together from only ten years of working there.
You can finally rest easy tonight now that you know the ins and outs of the industry you work in.
It always kept me up at night wondering how my paycheck cleared after I paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars to winners every day. Golly, now that Beltway told me casino rules are designed to favor the house, I feel like I'll finally get the first good night's sleep I've had in a decade.
It was part of the profile that MS Copilot built for you several months ago -- I was not aware that you worked in that industry, and it explained a lot of what I see here and have seen over the last five years or so.

Quote from: formulanone on December 18, 2025, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 02:44:28 PMYou need to know how to ask questio
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 02:04:41 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 01:50:52 PMMS Copilot told me all that several months ago when I asked for a profile.
Even the AI thinks you nitpick too much.
You must be more skilled at the AI than I am.  All I get is stuff like this:
Garbage in, garbage out -- AI is just a mirror with better grammar.
And yet you're using it to reinforce your negative opinions of others, and gaslighting us to believe it's a mountain of facts.
But in my own words: that makes you a pathological turd slinger without redeeming qualities and no substance of your own.
Your retirement must really suck.
You do realize that it can read thru the 2,000 or so posts in these Key Bridge threads in 15 seconds or so and arrive at all kinds of accurate conclusions? And deliver textually in less than 30 seconds?

He advises that he can make errors. It is your duty to review what he says and determine what you believe. If you show him an error he will discuss it with you and apologize and correct when he does.

If you make crude comments about things like sex he will most likely refuse to answer and tell you so politely.

Those two long posts a couple months ago with his assessment of Max was pretty accurate in my estimation from what I have seen in the past. Plus included number of chuckle-worthy comments.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)

Max Rockatansky

Seriously, why are you on the AI bandwagon?  You'd think someone who was pushing that hardcore hobby "legacy steward" narrative would be very much against not doing things the analog way.

kphoger


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

PColumbus73


hotdogPi

Quote from: PColumbus73 on December 18, 2025, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 04:18:45 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 04:13:22 PMHe

Wait, are we still talking about Nazelrod?

I believe AI is a woman

You beat me to it. (Seriously, I was typing something with the same meaning but worded differently, and then I got the new post notification when I tried to submit.)
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 35, 40, 53, 63, 79, 109, 126, 138, 141, 151, 159
NH 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 40, 366; CT 32, 193, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60; NJ 21; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; ON 406, 420; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

Beltway

#136
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 18, 2025, 04:18:09 PMSeriously, why are you on the AI bandwagon?  You'd think someone who was pushing that hardcore hobby "legacy steward" narrative would be very much against not doing things the analog way.
Calculator, word processor, spell checker -- same category. Don't mythologize it. My legacy is analog.


Quote from: PColumbus73 on December 18, 2025, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 04:18:45 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 04:13:22 PMHe
Wait, are we still talking about Nazelrod?
I believe AI is a woman
I'm fine either way -- call it she if you want.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)

kphoger

Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 01:50:52 PMEven the AI thinks you nitpick too much.

I'm quite impressed by the savvy acuity with which the AI evaluated a bunch of posts by a certain user, every single one of which has "Nit picker of unprecedented pedantry" next to it, and determined that the user is a nitpicker.  Pretty sharp.

Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 04:42:50 PMcall it she if you want.

How about we call it It?  AI is not a person.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Max Rockatansky

How exactly was I mythologizing branded algorithms when I didn't really even acknowledge that they popularly misidentified as Artificial Intelligence? 

Beltway

#139
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 04:51:28 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 01:50:52 PMEven the AI thinks you nitpick too much.
I'm quite impressed by the savvy acuity with which the AI evaluated a bunch of posts by a certain user, every single one of which has "Nit picker of unprecedented pedantry" next to it, and determined that the user is a nitpicker.  Pretty sharp.
She produced over 50 lines of output in that query several months ago, that was just my use of a one-liner to respond to a one-liner.


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 18, 2025, 05:02:44 PMHow exactly was I mythologizing branded algorithms when I didn't really even acknowledge that they popularly misidentified as Artificial Intelligence? 
Mythologizing isn't about belief, it's about how the spectacle frames the algorithm. You echoed the frame.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)

Max Rockatansky

#140
You're the one who got caught using AI on the original thread and wouldn't fess up to it for quite a while.  Now you're trying to insist it is a viable tool and doesn't sap credibility when misused. 

If anything what you are doing is more in line with trying mythologize/regularize AI usage on the forum.  I'm very much against the practice of using AI myself, or at least the practice of copy/pasting the raw form of what it spits out.  I even banned overt use of AI from all off forum road groups I manage.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: formulanone on December 18, 2025, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 02:44:28 PMYou need to know how to ask questio
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 02:04:41 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 01:50:52 PMMS Copilot told me all that several months ago when I asked for a profile.
Even the AI thinks you nitpick too much.
You must be more skilled at the AI than I am.  All I get is stuff like this:
Garbage in, garbage out -- AI is just a mirror with better grammar.

And yet you're using it to reinforce your negative opinions of others, and gaslighting us to believe it's a mountain of facts.

But in my own words: that makes you a pathological turd slinger without redeeming qualities and no substance of your own.

Your retirement must really suck.

Amusingly Beltway cited his AI analysis of me in response to you.  In the original thread he was able to compose his own opinion of me but it ended up being deleted along with several pages. 

BTW, what the fuck happened to Key Bridge news?  Guess there really anything noteworthy happening afterall.

kphoger


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Beltway

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 18, 2025, 05:23:37 PMYou're the one who got caught using AI on the original thread and wouldn't fess up to it for quite a while.  Now you're trying to insist it is a viable tool and doesn't sap credibility when misused. 
If anything what you are doing is more in line with trying mythologize/regularize AI usage on the forum.  I'm very much against the practice of using AI myself, or at least the practice of copy/pasting the raw form of what it spits out.  I even banned overt use of AI from all off forum road groups I manage.
I clearly marked those two narratives about you as being generated by MS Copilot.

So -- clearly mark it as such. I used it about you because you have been by far the most difficult poster to deal with these last six months or so.

Moral of the story -- stop poking the bear.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 18, 2025, 05:23:37 PMYou're the one who got caught using AI on the original thread and wouldn't fess up to it for quite a while.  Now you're trying to insist it is a viable tool and doesn't sap credibility when misused. 
If anything what you are doing is more in line with trying mythologize/regularize AI usage on the forum.  I'm very much against the practice of using AI myself, or at least the practice of copy/pasting the raw form of what it spits out.  I even banned overt use of AI from all off forum road groups I manage.
I clearly marked those two narratives about you as being generated by MS Copilot.

So -- clearly mark it as such. I used it about you because you have been by far the most difficult poster to deal with these last six months or so.

Moral of the story -- stop poking the bear.

You specifically named me when replying to formulaone.  If you didn't want to deal with me then how was it productive for you to call me back into whatever this thread is now?

kphoger

Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 08:22:03 PMMoral of the story -- stop poking the bear.

Wait...  Are you the bear in this metaphor?  Are we supposed to be scared of you?


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Beltway

Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2025, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 08:22:03 PMMoral of the story -- stop poking the bear.
Wait...  Are you the bear in this metaphor?  Are we supposed to be scared of you?
It's a metaphor -- if you prefer, stop poking the raccoon. They bite too and have very sharp teeth.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)

kphoger


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Rothman

Quote from: Beltway on December 18, 2025, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 18, 2025, 05:23:37 PMYou're the one who got caught using AI on the original thread and wouldn't fess up to it for quite a while.  Now you're trying to insist it is a viable tool and doesn't sap credibility when misused. 
If anything what you are doing is more in line with trying mythologize/regularize AI usage on the forum.  I'm very much against the practice of using AI myself, or at least the practice of copy/pasting the raw form of what it spits out.  I even banned overt use of AI from all off forum road groups I manage.
I clearly marked those two narratives about you as being generated by MS Copilot.

So -- clearly mark it as such. I used it about you because you have been by far the most difficult poster to deal with these last six months or so.

Moral of the story -- stop poking the bear.

Wait a minute...you used AI somehow  against (?  Not sure if that's the right word) Max since he has been a "difficult poster" and imply that if he continues to be a difficult poster that you'll...continue to post information about him on here collected through AI?

Is that what's meant here?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Beltway

Quote from: Rothman on December 18, 2025, 08:54:57 PMWait a minute...you used AI somehow  against (?  Not sure if that's the right word) Max since he has been a "difficult poster" and imply that if he continues to be a difficult poster that you'll...continue to post information about him on here collected through AI?
Is that what's meant here?
Threads collapse chasing posters. Bridges collapse chasing shortcuts. Current design collapses when it's under‑engineered and the budget is blown sky high. Let's stay on bridges.

On paper, the Francis Scott Key Bridge rebuild carries a federal promise of 100% funding with no cap. In practice, the Trump Administration has signaled that the $3 billion increase beyond the original estimate is not automatically approved. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy has raised concerns about runaway costs and delays, pressing Maryland's Governor Wes Moore for accountability on contracting and oversight before new dollars are released. The rebuild remains a federal priority, but Washington is emphasizing fiscal discipline and transparency. The distinction is clear: the written commitment suggests unlimited coverage, while the implicit reality is that oversight comes first. This documents the gap between paper promise and practical scrutiny, anchoring the debate in precedent and accountability.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)