AASHTO Spring 2026 Meeting (Savannah, GA)

Started by Great Lakes Roads, April 05, 2026, 04:20:01 PM

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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 05, 2026, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on May 05, 2026, 12:40:27 AM
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on May 03, 2026, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on December 02, 2025, 04:17:36 AMI just sent an email asking about the USRN decisions, so hopefully we won't be waiting too much longer.

*crosses fingers*

Alright who wants to be the one who contacts AASHTO this time?

If no one calls dibs I'll do it tomorrow...

Go ahead and do it... it's been three weeks since this meeting took place!

I sent them a Facebook message after emailing them last week and they said "we're working on getting that information for you". Not really holding my breath, though.

Their Facebook page is an absolute bore.  They'll talk about almost any transportation topic with regularity except roads.


WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 05, 2026, 09:45:58 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 05, 2026, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on May 05, 2026, 12:40:27 AM
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on May 03, 2026, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on December 02, 2025, 04:17:36 AMI just sent an email asking about the USRN decisions, so hopefully we won't be waiting too much longer.

*crosses fingers*

Alright who wants to be the one who contacts AASHTO this time?

If no one calls dibs I'll do it tomorrow...

Go ahead and do it... it's been three weeks since this meeting took place!

I sent them a Facebook message after emailing them last week and they said "we're working on getting that information for you". Not really holding my breath, though.

Their Facebook page is an absolute bore.  They'll talk about almost any transportation topic with regularity except roads.

Well, it worked because they sent me the list. I'll upload it in a few.
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WillWeaverRVA

#27
Here's the full list:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ng--1FhMVdbHzIfQdtdN3d0wjOXLbcKH/view?usp=sharing

The most notable requests are probably the deletion of I-515 in NV (since I-11 has superseded it), the approval of upgrading NC 295 to I-295, and PennDOT making a whole bunch of weird and wacky requests that look really strange. They appear to have requested a US 28 that was not approved, and they requested interstate designations for PA 33 and US 22 that weren't approved either.
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"But how will the oxen know where to drown if we renumber the Oregon Trail?" - NE2

Rothman

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WillWeaverRVA

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"But how will the oxen know where to drown if we renumber the Oregon Trail?" - NE2

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And US 28 in Pennsylvania, apparently.
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The Goheenville thing is just a realignment of PA 28/PA 66.  Who knows what District 10 was thinking?
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WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 06, 2026, 08:35:43 AMThe Goheenville thing is just a realignment of PA 28/PA 66.  Who knows what District 10 was thinking?

Someone should've skipped the three beer lunch that day.
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Max Rockatansky

It took until now to delete I-515 in Nevada?  Talk about another zombie designation.

wanderer2575

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 06, 2026, 08:22:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 06, 2026, 08:21:11 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 06, 2026, 08:19:38 AMHere's the full list:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ng--1FhMVdbHzIfQdtdN3d0wjOXLbcKH/view?usp=sharing

New Interstate Highways in PA?

PennDOT's proposals are WEIRD. I'm not surprised they weren't approved.

I almost *am* surprised, given that I-343 in Oklahoma was approved.

vdeane

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 06, 2026, 08:22:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 06, 2026, 08:21:11 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 06, 2026, 08:19:38 AMHere's the full list:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ng--1FhMVdbHzIfQdtdN3d0wjOXLbcKH/view?usp=sharing

New Interstate Highways in PA?

PennDOT's proposals are WEIRD. I'm not surprised they weren't approved.
And not the first time they were requested, either - weren't they rejected at the last AASHTO meeting too?  I guess they know the old saying - "if at first you really bomb, then try and try again" (bonus points to anyone who gets the reference).

Although I don't think it's too weird (not like that US 28 thing).  Looking at the descriptions and lengths, it appears to be all of PA 33, US 22 from I-78 to PA 33, and US 209 from PA 33 to I-80.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 06, 2026, 08:57:44 AMIt took until now to delete I-515 in Nevada?  Talk about another zombie designation.
Yeah, that was a surprise.  I wonder if this means NDOT will be changing the exit numbers soon?
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roadfro

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 06, 2026, 08:57:44 AMIt took until now to delete I-515 in Nevada?  Talk about another zombie designation.

NDOT didn't finish posting I-11 signage (and removing I-515 shields) along US 95 until late 2024/early 2025. So maybe they could have requested this AASHTO action to delete I-515 a meeting or two earlier. So I wouldn't say it was an egregious enough delay to be a zombie designation...

Quote from: vdeane on May 06, 2026, 12:40:42 PMYeah, that was a surprise.  I wonder if this means NDOT will be changing the exit numbers soon?

Unlikely, unfortunately. At least not right away...

I am curious if they are eventually going to convert the mileposting to I-11... The US 95 mileposts (where you can find them) have needed attention for a while—a discontinuity has led to the exit numbers between the Craig Road (exit 85) and Rancho Dr/Ann Road (exit 90) interchanges implying more mileage between them than actually exists. If NDOT does change this over to I-11 mileposts and gets those field posted, then I think they'll probably do an in-house project to update exit numbers. (But again, they should have done all this with their big sign replacement project when they were adding the I-11 shields.)
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NE2

Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 06, 2026, 08:35:43 AMThe Goheenville thing is just a realignment of PA 28/PA 66.  Who knows what District 10 was thinking?
I suspect someone at PennDOT thought NHS realignments had to go through AASHTO.
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I happened to notice that US 167 got re-routed in Lafayette (again) in this meeting, even though it was already re-routed in this specific manner when I was there back in November. Not a huge deal, but I guess they just decided to go ahead and do it months before it got approved officially.

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#40
Quote from: NE2 on May 06, 2026, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 06, 2026, 08:35:43 AMThe Goheenville thing is just a realignment of PA 28/PA 66.  Who knows what District 10 was thinking?
I suspect someone at PennDOT thought NHS realignments had to go through AASHTO.

Page 56 of Publication 46 indicates that this should not have been submitted.
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ElishaGOtis

#41
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 06, 2026, 08:19:38 AMHere's the full list:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ng--1FhMVdbHzIfQdtdN3d0wjOXLbcKH/view?usp=sharing

The most notable requests are probably the deletion of I-515 in NV (since I-11 has superseded it), the approval of upgrading NC 295 to I-295, and PennDOT making a whole bunch of weird and wacky requests that look really strange. They appear to have requested a US 28 that was not approved, and they requested interstate designations for PA 33 and US 22 that weren't approved either.

Dang it you beat me to it lol 😂

Huh... I thought that the 441 change was submitted with the spring applications. I guess it must have been pushed to fall?
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#42
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 06, 2026, 07:28:48 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 06, 2026, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 06, 2026, 08:35:43 AMThe Goheenville thing is just a realignment of PA 28/PA 66.  Who knows what District 10 was thinking?
I suspect someone at PennDOT thought NHS realignments had to go through AASHTO.

Page 56 of Publication 46 indicates that this should not have been submitted.

I don't have access to this link. Won't work for anyone not in whatever Discord server that is.



In other news... it looks at first like North Dakota is pulling a Colorado and creating random gaps in US 2 and US 85 but I suspect these applications are simply to obtain formal removal of the old route through town from the system, where the route has been moved onto a newer bypass years ago.
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WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: Duke87 on May 06, 2026, 11:38:05 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 06, 2026, 07:28:48 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 06, 2026, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 06, 2026, 08:35:43 AMThe Goheenville thing is just a realignment of PA 28/PA 66.  Who knows what District 10 was thinking?
I suspect someone at PennDOT thought NHS realignments had to go through AASHTO.

Page 56 of Publication 46 indicates that this should not have been submitted.

I don't have access to this link. Won't work for anyone not in whatever Discord server that is.



In other news... it looks at first like North Dakota is pulling a Colorado and creating random gaps in US 2 and US 85 but I suspect these applications are simply to obtain formal removal of the old route through town from the system, where the route has been moved onto a newer bypass years ago.

Yeah, I looked at those on a map and the segments requested for deletion have already been bypassed and are signed as business routes.
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"But how will the oxen know where to drown if we renumber the Oregon Trail?" - NE2

74/171FAN

QuoteI don't have access to this link. Won't work for anyone not in whatever Discord server that is.

I fixed it.  I had posted the link into the AARoads Wiki Discord, and for some reason copy/paste pulled that over here instead of the correct Pub. 46 link.
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