Sen. Cornyn wants to turn US 287 into I-47

[Road Hog]

Nope out. Unless you want to name the portion between Beaumont and Ennis that. It fits the grid there.

[GaryV]

Will there be an Exit 86?

[FightingIrish]

The funny thing about Chicago people is that the free expressways are typically referred to by name (Kennedy, Edens, Dan Ryan, Eisenhower, Stevenson/Obama) but the tollways are all by number. One of my friends from the area addressed 90 as the Kennedy and I then referred to the portion west of 294 as the Addams and he had no clue what I was talking about.

Yet 355 is still called the North–South Tollway.

At least on the local traffic reports 355 is the Veterans.  I do not recall hearing anyone use the Obama name when refering to I-55.

Perhaps it will take time. The other named freeways have been around for decades.

On the other hand, the Obama Expressway doesn't really get the traffic jams that the others do. Too bad there wasn't an unnamed freeway running through the city itself, particularly the south side. But they obviously weren't going to change any existing names, even for the first president to actually live in Chicago. I know Kennedy, Eisenhower and Adlai Stevenson were well-known, but William Edens? Dan Ryan? Bishop Ford? Then again, that stretch of I-55 through the southwest suburbs is a bit nicer than the Eisenhower (I-290), which is an absolutely dreadful road - one of the worst interstate highways in the country.

[JayhawkCO]

I assume that, in wartime, this designation will go all the way up to Canada?

[NWI_Irish96]

The funny thing about Chicago people is that the free expressways are typically referred to by name (Kennedy, Edens, Dan Ryan, Eisenhower, Stevenson/Obama) but the tollways are all by number. One of my friends from the area addressed 90 as the Kennedy and I then referred to the portion west of 294 as the Addams and he had no clue what I was talking about.

Yet 355 is still called the North–South Tollway.

At least on the local traffic reports 355 is the Veterans.  I do not recall hearing anyone use the Obama name when refering to I-55.

I'm not in favor of naming anything after anybody who is still alive, no matter how much I like or dislike them.

[kphoger]

Will there be an Exit 86?

Careful, or you'll get canceled.

[bwana39]

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 The portion south of the DFW Metroplex doesn't really seem needed, either.

TxDOT has an ongoing study that predates the recent push by Senator Cornyn. https://www.txdot.gov/projects/projects-studies/statewide/us287-texas-corridor-study.html.

As to the "south of DFW, I can sort of agree if you say south / east of I-45.

The parts from I-45 to I-69 might be pointless. For the sake of argument, either US-287 or US-69 from the Golden Triangle (Beaumont / Port Arthur / Orange) to I-69 is badly needed. Jefferson and Orange Counties are among the largest petroleum processing counties in the world. An additional freeway outlet other than I-10 is would be beneficial. On the other hand, parts of it is still 2-laned. 

[Life in Paradise]

No naming of any roadway, building, issuing coin or stamp while a person is alive.  Let that be reconciled after their life is over.  That being said, There is an argument for an interstate (as has been discussed on these boards) with US 287 from Dallas/Ft. Worth metroplex to at least Limon, CO.  The rest of it (perhaps with the exception of the stretch between I-25 and I-80, although to me that is overkill) is not needed.  Just use I-31 or 33.  If they wanted to have some fun with it, they could tie I-37 to I-35 and run it from San Antonio to just south of Ft. Worth and take over part of I-35W and make I-35E just plain I-35 and the ophan I-35W portion can be then a 3-D child of 35.

[kphoger]

I'm not in favor of naming anything after anybody who is still alive, no matter how much I like or dislike them.

No naming of any roadway, building, issuing coin or stamp while a person is alive.

So, the following are also out, then:

— President George Bush Turnpike, Dallas
— Edens Expressway, Chicago

[I-35]

I'm not in favor of naming anything after anybody who is still alive, no matter how much I like or dislike them.

No naming of any roadway, building, issuing coin or stamp while a person is alive.

So, the following are also out, then:

— President George Bush Turnpike, Dallas
— Edens Expressway, Chicago

Technically, Bush Turnpike is named after Bush 41, but it was named while he was alive, so your point stands.

[kphoger]

Technically, Bush Turnpike is named after Bush 41

Did I say it wasn't?

[JayhawkCO]

I'm not in favor of naming anything after anybody who is still alive, no matter how much I like or dislike them.

No naming of any roadway, building, issuing coin or stamp while a person is alive.

So, the following are also out, then:

— President George Bush Turnpike, Dallas
— Edens Expressway, Chicago

I'm good with scrapping all of those as well. It seems a touch idolatrous to name something after someone while they're still alive.

[Bobby5280]

Yeah, this nothing-burger of a news story is just John Cornyn deep-kissing Trump's starfish to get favor over his rival Ken Paxton. AFAIK Trump hasn't endorsed either candidate. And I think Trump is having fun watching both of these guys humiliate themselves trying to get his endorsement.

Portions of US-287 in Texas do need to be brought up to Interstate standards, specifically the Fort Worth to Amarillo segment. The Amarillo-Dumas segment could be upgrade-worthy (and easy to do). But the other stuff shown in that US-287 Texas study, mainly the stuff East of I-45, just seems unwarranted. Traffic counts aren't high enough and I-45 is too close in proximity.

There's no way a Gulf Coast to Montana Interstate is happening. That's laughably unrealistic. The Ports to Plains Corridor was proposed over 20 years ago and only small portions of it have been built to Interstate standards so far. It looks like New Mexico and Colorado would block any efforts to bring US-64/87 and US-287 up to Interstate standards in their states. They're not going to spend any of their state funding on such a venture.

No one gets their name applied to the entire length of a long distance Interstate highway. The way things are going the "Trump" name is going to be toxic everywhere in another year or two. I just saw news that developers were pulling the plug on a 93 story tall skyscraper in Australia, due in part because of its Trump branding. Efforts to name highways after Trump, even shorter urban highways will run into trouble. Not many roads are named after Richard Nixon.

[kphoger]

It seems a touch idolatrous to name something after someone while they're still alive.

To me, it seems less idolatrous and more premature.  What if, after naming the thing, it turns out that...

Richard Nixon

[ElishaGOtis]

I would personally prefer the following:

- I-28 between Amarillo & Fort Worth (at 35W)
- I-47 between Fort Worth & Beaumont

Crap... 

[PColumbus73]

I would personally prefer the following:

- I-28 between Amarillo & Fort Worth (at 35W)
- I-47 between Fort Worth & Beaumont

What does it feel like to predict the future?

Crap... 

[kphoger]

I would personally prefer the following:

- I-28 between Amarillo & Fort Worth (at 35W)
- I-47 between Fort Worth & Beaumont

Similar to how it feels to use the [Preview] button to make sure your post is formatted correctly.

What does it feel like to predict the future?

Crap... 

[achilles765]

I care about the name. I don't want to see anything ever named after Donald trump—I want everything his name removed from everything he's slapped it on once he's gone.

Once he's gone, this country needs to undergo its own version of "destalinization" and eliminate every trace of him from society. So hell no I want no highway named after him.

It's going to be in Texas for a long stretch—name the Texas portion at least "George W Bush Highway" or something. Hell even make it a southern version of I 43.

[achilles765]

I'm not in favor of naming anything after anybody who is still alive, no matter how much I like or dislike them.

No naming of any roadway, building, issuing coin or stamp while a person is alive.

So, the following are also out, then:

— President George Bush Turnpike, Dallas
— Edens Expressway, Chicago

I'm good with scrapping all of those as well. It seems a touch idolatrous to name something after someone while they're still alive.

President Bush isn't alive. At least not that one—that was named for bush sr, just like our airport here in Houston.

[kphoger]

President Bush isn't alive. At least not that one—that was named for bush sr, just like our airport here in Houston.

He died twenty years after the highway got his name.

[Bobby5280]

It's going to be in Texas for a long stretch—name the Texas portion at least "George W Bush Highway" or something. Hell even make it a southern version of I 43.

I'm now sort of rooting for the segment of US-75 going from Dallas up into Oklahoma getting named "I-43" rather than it be an extension of I-45. It's the only thing that will allow that idiotic I-343 crap on the Muskogee Turnpike to make any sense. It's either that or US-75 from Tulsa down to McAlester would have to get an I-43 designation.

[LilianaUwU]

Cornyn better give me royalties for taking my idea of an I-47.

[texaskdog]

So now we know, Fritzowl is really John Cornyn!

Cute idea, I'm opposed to the numbering.  If you want a Trump freeway just rename I-45 and don't besmirch the grid.

[vdeane]

I'm not in favor of naming anything after anybody who is still alive, no matter how much I like or dislike them.

No naming of any roadway, building, issuing coin or stamp while a person is alive.

So, the following are also out, then:

— President George Bush Turnpike, Dallas
— Edens Expressway, Chicago

Not to mention the President Biden Expressway in Scranton.

[kphoger]

Cornyn better give me royalties for taking my idea of an I-47.

This new idea appears to differ significantly from yours.  Who are you—Buc-ee's?