Sen. Cornyn wants to turn US 287 into I-47

Started by FightingIrish, May 12, 2026, 08:57:02 AM

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ElishaGOtis

Quote from: vdeane on May 13, 2026, 07:46:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 13, 2026, 12:15:38 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on May 13, 2026, 08:50:43 AMI'm not in favor of naming anything after anybody who is still alive, no matter how much I like or dislike them.
Quote from: Life in Paradise on May 13, 2026, 11:55:29 AMNo naming of any roadway, building, issuing coin or stamp while a person is alive.

So, the following are also out, then:

— President George Bush Turnpike, Dallas
— Edens Expressway, Chicago
Not to mention the President Biden Expressway in Scranton.

Judy Blume Service Area GSP  :bigass:
I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

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Scott5114

#51
Even the person being dead doesn't necessarily make it a safe option for a street or highway name—witness the recent heartburn from the streets named after Cesar Chavez, who died in 1993.

Obviously the only real solution is to do what Henderson, NV did for a recent subdivision: name them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMname them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.

Jigglypuff Highway
Meowth Freeway
Slowbro Expressway
Mr. Mime Turnpike
Lickitung Cutoff


p.s. — There's a song we sing sometimes in church with a line it that says, "Ash was redeemed", and I think of Pokémon every time we sing it.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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PColumbus73

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMEven the person being dead doesn't necessarily make it a safe option for a street or highway name—witness the recent heartburn from the streets named after Cesar Chavez, who died in 1993.

Obviously the only real solution is to do what Henderson, NV did for a recent subdivision: name them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.

Just wait until numbers get canceled and New York City has to rename all of their streets.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMEven the person being dead doesn't necessarily make it a safe option for a street or highway name—witness the recent heartburn from the streets named after Cesar Chavez, who died in 1993.

Obviously the only real solution is to do what Henderson, NV did for a recent subdivision: name them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.

Or just do what this subdivision did: https://earthlymission.com/this-street-that-street-the-other-street-canada-street-names/
Indiana: counties 100%, highways 100%
Illinois: counties 100%, highways 61%
Michigan: counties 100%, highways 56%
Wisconsin: counties 86%, highways 23%

Scott5114

Quote from: PColumbus73 on May 14, 2026, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMEven the person being dead doesn't necessarily make it a safe option for a street or highway name—witness the recent heartburn from the streets named after Cesar Chavez, who died in 1993.

Obviously the only real solution is to do what Henderson, NV did for a recent subdivision: name them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.

Just wait until numbers get canceled and New York City has to rename all of their streets.

I mean, there's a reason some states don't have a Route 69....
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

LilianaUwU

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMSnorlax will never let us down.
Heard he was snorting cocaine, but what he does in his free time is none of our business.
"Volcano with no fire... Not volcano... Just mountain."
—Mr. Thwomp

My pronouns are she/her, no matter what you think about that.

LilianaUwU

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on May 13, 2026, 08:50:43 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 12, 2026, 08:26:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 12, 2026, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: I-55 on May 12, 2026, 01:34:40 PMThe funny thing about Chicago people is that the free expressways are typically referred to by name (Kennedy, Edens, Dan Ryan, Eisenhower, Stevenson/Obama) but the tollways are all by number. One of my friends from the area addressed 90 as the Kennedy and I then referred to the portion west of 294 as the Addams and he had no clue what I was talking about.

Yet 355 is still called the North–South Tollway.

At least on the local traffic reports 355 is the Veterans.  I do not recall hearing anyone use the Obama name when refering to I-55.

I'm not in favor of naming anything after anybody who is still alive, no matter how much I like or dislike them.
Québec actually has a rule (at least as of late) where a person needs to be dead for one year to get something named after them. A-50 only got renamed Autoroute Guy-Lafleur after he passed. I have counterexamples, though, such as Rue Élisabeth-II in Neufchâtel that was named this way before she died in 2022.
"Volcano with no fire... Not volcano... Just mountain."
—Mr. Thwomp

My pronouns are she/her, no matter what you think about that.

kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMSnorlax will never let us down.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 14, 2026, 11:57:30 AMHeard he was snorting cocaine, but what he does in his free time is none of our business.

Are we still talking about Dan Moraseski, or did Pokémon take a dark turn that I wasn't aware of?

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

ElishaGOtis

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMEven the person being dead doesn't necessarily make it a safe option for a street or highway name—witness the recent heartburn from the streets named after Cesar Chavez, who died in 1993.

Obviously the only real solution is to do what Henderson, NV did for a recent subdivision: name them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.

Or Thomas the Tank Engine  :bigass:
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Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 11:24:17 AM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on May 14, 2026, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMEven the person being dead doesn't necessarily make it a safe option for a street or highway name—witness the recent heartburn from the streets named after Cesar Chavez, who died in 1993.

Obviously the only real solution is to do what Henderson, NV did for a recent subdivision: name them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.

Just wait until numbers get canceled and New York City has to rename all of their streets.

I mean, there's a reason some states don't have a Route 69....


I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

NOTE: Opinions expressed here on AARoads are solely my own and do not represent or reflect the statements, opinions, or decisions of any agency. Any official information I share will be quoted or specified from another source.

My ideal speed limits (FAKE/FICTIONAL NOT OFFICIAL) :
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1Ia4RR_BaYyzgJq4n3JcYzkNZjLYKzGQ

kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 11:24:17 AMI mean, there's a reason some states don't have a Route 69....

Yeah, I don't know why Nevada doesn't have more two-digit state routes.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

elsmere241

Quote from: kphoger on May 14, 2026, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 11:24:17 AMI mean, there's a reason some states don't have a Route 69....

Yeah, I don't know why Nevada doesn't have more two-digit state routes.

They did, until they overhauled their numbering scheme (around 1980, give or take).

edwaleni

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMEven the person being dead doesn't necessarily make it a safe option for a street or highway name—witness the recent heartburn from the streets named after Cesar Chavez, who died in 1993.

Obviously the only real solution is to do what Henderson, NV did for a recent subdivision: name them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.

St Louis wasn't long to remove the "Mark McGwire Highway" signs on I-70 after his appearance in Congress.


kphoger

Quote from: kphoger on May 14, 2026, 12:27:21 PMYeah, I don't know why Nevada doesn't have more two-digit state routes.
Quote from: elsmere241 on May 14, 2026, 01:19:06 PMThey did, until they overhauled their numbering scheme (around 1980, give or take).

Sorry, I forgot the [/sarcasm] tags.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

-- US 175 --

Quote from: kphoger on May 14, 2026, 09:41:23 AMJigglypuff Highway


You'll go to sleep driving there, run off the road, and wake up with black marker all over your face...  :-D  :-D  :-D

TheBox

Quote from: -- US 175 -- on May 14, 2026, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 14, 2026, 09:41:23 AMJigglypuff Highway


You'll go to sleep driving there, run off the road, and wake up with black marker all over your face...  :-D  :-D  :-D
Reading all that, that takes me back to one of those soon (if not already) 2 decade old Pokémon YTPs called "Misty is an idiot", specifically when Jigglypuff started singing where stuff like that exactly happens among other things

Really takes me back to a simpler time on the internet
Wake me up when they upgrade US-290 between the state's largest city and growing capital into expressway standards if it interstate standards.

Giddings bypass, Elgin bypass, and Elgin-Manor freeway/tollway when?

The Ghostbuster

I don't oppose naming US 287 after someone per se. I just believe it should be named after someone else (who's not an idiot).

Bobby5280

#67
Segments of highways can get named and re-named repeatedly. The section of I-44 going thru Lawton has been renamed after different people multiple times, usually military veterans who died in battle. For a short time it was named after 2007 Miss America pageant winner (and Lawton native) Lauren Nelson. Then it was named after Bill Burgess Jr, a prominent Lawton businessman and Regent for Oklahoma University. Burgess was still alive when the highway was named after him; he died in 2019.

Even if US-287 can be upgraded to Interstate standards just between Fort Worth and Amarillo it's likely parts of the Interstate would be named after different people. Trump wouldn't get the whole enchilada.

wxfree

How often do the feds name highways?

In Texas, some Interstates in cities are known by names such as Stemmons Freeway or LBJ in Dallas.  My understanding is that only the state can name the Interstate freeway, and the names given by the city technically apply to the frontage road (so "Freeway" is a misnomer and it should be the Stemmons Frontage Road).  There's no real difference, because the city street name is used in addresses, since there are no addresses on the freeway.  Two legislatively named Interstate freeways I know of are the Tom Landry and Ronald Reagan Highways, along I-30 and I-20.  I don't know of anyone other than traffic reporters who call them that.  "Tom Landry Highway" is better than "the old turnpike."  Especially with that being so long ago.  How old do you have to be to remember the turnpike?  I don't know of any examples of the feds naming a highway.  Are there any?
I'd like to buy a vowel, Alex.  What is E?

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Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights do make a left.

kphoger

Quote from: kphoger on May 12, 2026, 12:43:40 PMDoes anybody care who they name highways after?
Does anybody even know who they name highways after?
Quote from: Bobby5280 on May 15, 2026, 12:16:55 PMSegments of highways can get named and re-named repeatedly. The section of I-44 going thru Lawton has been renamed after different people multiple times, usually military veterans who died in battle. For a short time it was named after 2007 Miss America winner (and Lawton native) Lauren Nelson. Then it was named after Bill Burgess Jr, a prominent Lawton businessman and Regent for Oklahoma University. Burgess was still alive when the highway was named after him; he died in 2019.

Well, I guess that answered my second question.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Bobby5280

Quote from: wxfreeTwo legislatively named Interstate freeways I know of are the Tom Landry and Ronald Reagan Highways, along I-30 and I-20.  I don't know of anyone other than traffic reporters who call them that.  "Tom Landry Highway" is better than "the old turnpike."  Especially with that being so long ago.  How old do you have to be to remember the turnpike?

A person would have to be in their 50's or older to have any in-person memory of the Dallas-Fort Worth Turnpike. The tolls were removed in 1977. It took considerably longer for many of the old trumpet style interchanges to be remodeled or replaced. I think the dual trumpet interchange with I-30 and Loop 12 is the last remaining one.

Regarding how local residents name the highways, I think it depends on how easy the named version is to say versus saying an Interstate highway number. Most people in the DFW area refer to I-635 at "LBJ Freeway" because "LBJ Freeway" rolls off the tongue better than "I six thirty five."

LilianaUwU

Quote from: Bobby5280 on May 15, 2026, 01:18:39 PMA person would have to be in their 50's or older to have any in-person memory of the Dallas-Fort Worth Turnpike.
Then again, people still call the Yankee Division Highway in Boston "route 128"...
"Volcano with no fire... Not volcano... Just mountain."
—Mr. Thwomp

My pronouns are she/her, no matter what you think about that.

kphoger

Quote from: Bobby5280 on May 15, 2026, 01:18:39 PMA person would have to be in their 50's or older to have any in-person memory of the Dallas-Fort Worth Turnpike.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 15, 2026, 02:51:30 PMThen again, people still call the Yankee Division Highway in Boston "route 128"...

And it's been fifty years since the canal route in Wichita (current I-135/US-81/K-15) lost its I-35W number, yet half the people here still call it "I-35".

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

roadman65

I saw articles circulating that I-47 will be named after a controversial figure.   Being I saw it on social media its most likely sarcastic or a troll trying to fuel a flame war by posting the usual on line garbage.
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Sheryl Crowe

The_Ginger

Quote from: kphoger on May 15, 2026, 02:59:56 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on May 15, 2026, 01:18:39 PMA person would have to be in their 50's or older to have any in-person memory of the Dallas-Fort Worth Turnpike.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 15, 2026, 02:51:30 PMThen again, people still call the Yankee Division Highway in Boston "route 128"...
And it's been fifty years since the canal route in Wichita (current I-135/US-81/K-15) lost its I-35W number, yet half the people here still call it "I-35".
And it's been 45 years since WV 2 was removed from what is today WV 68, but some people still call it "2" or "Route 2." I'm also sure some people still call I-68 "US 48."