Sen. Cornyn wants to turn US 287 into I-47

Started by FightingIrish, May 12, 2026, 08:57:02 AM

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Bobby5280

Quote from: kphogerAnd it's been fifty years since the canal route in Wichita (current I-135/US-81/K-15) lost its I-35W number, yet half the people here still call it "I-35".

I said in person memory -like actually seeing the DFW turnpike in person when it was still a turnpike.

That's different from a local custom where residents learn to call a street or highway a certain name based on what other people have been calling it for years. More than a few people born after 1980 know I-30 between Dallas and Fort Worth once was a turnpike. But they never saw it for themselves with their own eyes. Therefore they have no actual memory of that turnpike.


achilles765

Quote from: Bobby5280 on May 13, 2026, 04:42:33 PM
Quote from: achiles765It's going to be in Texas for a long stretch—name the Texas portion at least "George W Bush Highway" or something. Hell even make it a southern version of I 43.

I'm now sort of rooting for the segment of US-75 going from Dallas up into Oklahoma getting named "I-43" rather than it be an extension of I-45. It's the only thing that will allow that idiotic I-343 crap on the Muskogee Turnpike to make any sense. It's either that or US-75 from Tulsa down to McAlester would have to get an I-43 designation.

I could live with that...if anything just so it would make I-343 in Oklahoma not so incredibly offensive or wrong...
I love freeways and roads in any state but Texas will always be first in my heart

captkirk_4

Zero chance this will happen, even without the name on it. An interstate through Yellowstone? No need for anything north of Laramie, and Yellowstone is snowed in for 8 months of the year. You build around that mountainous plateau. A more sensical highway would be Limon CO to OKC going through Garden City for TX and Gulf traffic to I-80 and the PNW. Maybe a Ft Collins to Laramie upgrade to shorten the route. Route 2 in Nebraska also could be fully upgraded as a lot of trucks take it as a shortcut to go between I80 and routes to the Southeast.

I-35

Expect this legislation will be withdrawn after today's endorsement of 'the other guy'

The Ghostbuster

Perhaps the upgrades to US 287 should come (at least in Texas), without the strings attached: Interstate designation and being named after someone who shouldn't have anything named after him.

RoadMaster09

The US 287 section should come with a string attached: the number would be I-32.

The Ghostbuster

The portion west of Interstate 35W could be Interstate 32. The rest south of Interstate 20 could be Interstate 43 or Interstate 47. Of course, this assumes US 287 will become an Interstate in the future, which I consider the jury is still out on that possibility.

Scott5114

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 19, 2026, 02:00:34 PMPerhaps the upgrades to US 287 should come (at least in Texas), without the strings attached: Interstate designation and being named after someone who shouldn't have anything named after him.

Quote from: RoadMaster09 on May 19, 2026, 09:22:42 PMThe US 287 section should come with a string attached: the number would be I-32.

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 19, 2026, 09:45:26 PMThe portion west of Interstate 35W could be Interstate 32. The rest south of Interstate 20 could be Interstate 43 or Interstate 47. Of course, this assumes US 287 will become an Interstate in the future, which I consider the jury is still out on that possibility.

You guys realize that actually building a freeway was never the point of this bill, right?
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NE2

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 14, 2026, 09:01:59 AMObviously the only real solution is to do what Henderson, NV did for a recent subdivision: name them after Pokémon. Snorlax will never let us down.
The problem with Snorlax is when they let themselves down and you don't have a Pokeflute handy.
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I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

bwana39

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 19, 2026, 09:45:26 PMThe portion west of Interstate 35W could be Interstate 32. The rest south of Interstate 20 could be Interstate 43 or Interstate 47. Of course, this assumes US 287 will become an Interstate in the future, which I consider the jury is still out on that possibility.

The 1960's plan was Dallas to Amarillo was going to be I-45. It seems academic that I-45 is going to follow US-75 in Texas if it does anything.  As to the East West Part, it could be 30, especially it it went to Lubbock instead of Amarillo and the Wichita Falls to Amarillo portion could be an I-x40. Breaking type, I-30 COULD go to Amarillo, but that one is unprecedented, but so is US-69 and I-69 being concurrent,
Let's build what we need as economically as possible.

Scott5114

I guess this is better than the thread turning into partisan rancor. What do you think the control cities would be?
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NE2

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMI guess this is better than the thread turning into partisan rancor. What do you think the control cities would be?
I think we all know that one.
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

hotdogPi

It would be a bit funny if US 287 was a bit closer to Liberal KS and they would be forced to sign it as an exit.
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kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMI guess this is better than the thread turning into partisan rancor. What do you think the control cities would be?
Quote from: NE2 on May 20, 2026, 03:35:31 AMI think we all know that one.

Yeah, Kit Carson does make sense.

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Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

TheBox

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMI guess this is better than the thread turning into partisan rancor. What do you think the control cities would be?
Assuming it goes all the way between Ennis and Amarillo

Ennis
Fort Worth
Rhome
Wichita Falls
Amarillo
Wake me up when they upgrade US-290 between the state's largest city and growing capital into expressway standards if it interstate standards.

Giddings bypass, Elgin bypass, and Elgin-Manor freeway/tollway when?

kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMWhat do you think the control cities would be?

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Male pronouns, please.

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The Ghostbuster

I see there is a project to four-lane US 69/287 south of Warren. It will likely connect with the four-lane segment south of Village Mills. Any chance it could be extended further north, or southward to US 96?

I-35

Quote from: TheBox on May 20, 2026, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMI guess this is better than the thread turning into partisan rancor. What do you think the control cities would be?
Assuming it goes all the way between Ennis and Amarillo

Ennis
Fort Worth
Rhome
Wichita Falls
Amarillo

Why Rhome?

My thoughts:

  • Ennis/Ft Worth
  • Waxahachie/Ft Worth (duplexed w I-45)
  • Midlothian/Ft Worth
  • Mansfield/Ft Worth
  • Ft Worth
  • Decatur/Wichita Falls
  • Bowie/Wichita Falls
  • Wichita Falls
  • Vernon/Amarillo
  • Amarillo
  • Dumas/Denver
  • Boise City/Denver
  • Lamar/Denver
  • Kit Carson/Denver
  • Limon/Denver
  • Denver (duplexed w I-70)
  • Denver

MikeTheActuary

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMI guess this is better than the thread turning into partisan rancor.

So I shouldn't suggest the grand unveiling of the new interstate shields be held in downtown Estelline, TX?

kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMWhat do you think the control cities would be?

Port Arthur
Beaumont
Corsicana
Fort Worth
Wichita Falls
Amarillo
Dumas
Lamar (goes in the thread about skipped states)
Limon
Denver
Fort Collins
Laramie (guide signs at the I-80/I-47 split near Walcott would be interesting)
Lander
Helena
Choteau

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
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Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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Bobby5280

Quote from: I-35Why Rhome?

It's at the intersection of TX-114 & US-287. The junction point is already pretty important.

It's just too bad TX DOT and local officials in that immediate area are allowing TX-114 between US-287 & I-35W to be turned into a surface street pigged with traffic signals. The divided highway already carries a lot of traffic. The traffic levels are only going to increase as more housing subdivisions and logistical buildings keep getting constructed in that vicinity. They're going to be facing another shit-show like what's already been happening with US-380.

ClassicHasClass

Well, that worked out real well for him, didn't it?

achilles765

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMI guess this is better than the thread turning into partisan rancor. What do you think the control cities would be?

If it goes all the way from Port Arthur to...say...Amarillo-- then what it SHOULD probably be is
Southbound-                  Northbound--
Wichita Falls                Beaumont
Ft Worth                     Dallas/Ft Worth
Beaumont                     Childress
Port Arthur.                 Wichita Falls
                             Amarillo
I love freeways and roads in any state but Texas will always be first in my heart

Bobby5280

I think the only segments of US-287 in Texas that could potentially be upgraded to Interstate standards in the next 10-15 years are the ones in the immediate DFW metroplex region. The segment from I-20 down to I-45 has been very long overdue to bring up fully to Interstate standards. I'd also say the same thing for the stretch between I-35W on the North side of Fort Worth up to and thru Decatur. US-287 should have been Interstate quality from I-45 in Ennis up to US-380 in Decatur already.

The segment from Decatur up to the existing freeway in Bowie would be the next priority, followed by completing the freeway to Wichita Falls. I'd really like to see all of US-287 between Fort Worth and Amarillo upgraded to an Interstate, but at the current pace of "progress" it doesn't look like that's going to happen in my lifetime.

I-35

Quote from: MikeTheActuary on May 20, 2026, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 20, 2026, 02:40:26 AMI guess this is better than the thread turning into partisan rancor.

So I shouldn't suggest the grand unveiling of the new interstate shields be held in downtown Estelline, TX?

Right next to the 55 MPH reduced limit signs?  :sombrero: