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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2025 on: July 01, 2022, 11:07:44 AM »

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« Reply #2026 on: July 01, 2022, 08:26:57 PM »

(For DE 1)  SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop

I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2027 on: July 01, 2022, 08:30:42 PM »

(For DE 1)  SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop

I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.

It 100% is now.

As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.

Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2028 on: July 04, 2022, 10:42:42 PM »

As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).

As of this past Sat 4/23, DE 30 signage still exists west of US 113.
Still present as of Sun 7/3, both west of US 113 AND US 13.  Was on North 13 and saw a “West 30” sign for a left turn. 

Later I took DE 24 from Seaford over to pickup DE 26 to Dagsboro.  On Sat 7/1 I took DE 26 down to MD.  Can confirm still signed as 24/30.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2029 on: July 05, 2022, 07:54:56 AM »

(For DE 1)  SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop

I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.

It 100% is now.

As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.

Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.

A (now-retired afaik) traffic reporter on WDEL radio always referred to the flyover bringing nb 1 over 13 interchange 156 as "the jughandle at Tybouts Corner", as if that spot on the map was in New Jersey.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2031 on: July 06, 2022, 08:20:38 PM »

(For US 13 and DE 12)  TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent County - Road Closure of US 13 Northbound at SR12 between Killens Pond Road and Memorial Ave

(For US 13 and DE 14)  TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent County - US 13 Northbound at SR14 between Porter St. and Gordon St.

With good weather and luck, both projects will be done by the time the Delaware State Fair opens in the neighborhood of the 13/14 project.

But will drivers wanting/needing to directly cross NB US 13 on Routes 12 and 14 be able to do so?
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2032 on: July 11, 2022, 09:14:59 AM »

(For DE 72 and DE 71) SR72, MCCOY ROAD TO SR71 has been awarded

(This is for the widening of DE 72.)
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2034 on: July 14, 2022, 09:38:49 PM »

https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls

Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.

This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2035 on: July 14, 2022, 10:36:43 PM »

https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls

Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.

This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
It's been used for crossovers at times one bridge needs to be closed.

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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2037 on: July 15, 2022, 09:19:02 AM »

https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls

Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.

This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
It's been used for crossovers at times one bridge needs to be closed.

When? I've never seen it documented anywhere.  Never heard of a situation where it was done. And for the past 20+ years, barriers are in place to prevent easy crossovers.

Even several years ago when there was a suspension cable issue on the DE-bound span, they elected to keep 1 lane open (with huge traffic jams resulting) rather than to close the span and use the other span for 2 way operation.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2038 on: July 15, 2022, 10:29:19 AM »

They are going to use 2-way traffic on the WB span for an upcoming project.  2 lanes will remain open on the EB bridge but a "bypass lane" will be put on the other span specifically for vehicles heading for the NJ Turnpike.

https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2039 on: July 15, 2022, 04:18:43 PM »

They are going to use 2-way traffic on the WB span for an upcoming project.  2 lanes will remain open on the EB bridge but a "bypass lane" will be put on the other span specifically for vehicles heading for the NJ Turnpike.

https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls

I know - that's what I wrote along with the link in my post!  :-D
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2040 on: July 15, 2022, 05:11:40 PM »

They are going to use 2-way traffic on the WB span for an upcoming project.  2 lanes will remain open on the EB bridge but a "bypass lane" will be put on the other span specifically for vehicles heading for the NJ Turnpike.

https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls

I know - that's what I wrote along with the link in my post!  :-D

sorry...evidently I needed the 4 hour nap from which I just emerged...
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2041 on: July 15, 2022, 06:50:47 PM »

https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls

Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.

This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
So this means 3 lanes of traffic each way across the bay. The contraflow lane will use the existing crossovers, but there's no way any of that traffic could safely exit onto either I-295 or US-130. The bridge gets redecked in 2 stages, and carries 2 lanes (most of the time) towards NJ.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2042 on: July 15, 2022, 11:12:37 PM »

https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls

Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.

This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
So this means 3 lanes of traffic each way across the bay. The contraflow lane will use the existing crossovers, but there's no way any of that traffic could safely exit onto either I-295 or US-130. The bridge gets redecked in 2 stages, and carries 2 lanes (most of the time) towards NJ.

Correct. Per the link, the contra-flow lane will be for NJ Tpk-bound traffic only.

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To accommodate anticipated traffic volumes, a bypass lane will also be provided diverting traffic around the construction. This bypass lane will divert traffic to the exterior lane of the Delaware-bound structure and will accommodate traffic bound for the New Jersey Turnpike only.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2043 on: July 18, 2022, 10:59:37 PM »

As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).

I toured that route recently (along with every other route in Kent and Sussex, working my way north thru New Castle presently)… what is being removed exactly?

Also, having now driven all of DE 15… why does it exist? I get the section from 13 to 14, but north of there, I see little purpose for its existence.
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« Reply #2044 on: July 19, 2022, 06:19:03 AM »

As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).

I toured that route recently (along with every other route in Kent and Sussex, working my way north thru New Castle presently)… what is being removed exactly?

Also, having now driven all of DE 15… why does it exist? I get the section from 13 to 14, but north of there, I see little purpose for its existence.

It was supposed to be the entire route south of the north end of the DE 24 concurrency just north of Millsboro.  (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2680762#msg2680762)

In regard to DE 15, I think you just manifested an appearance of Mr. Angery from the roadwaywiz webinars.   :-D

However, I think there are plenty of PA routes that are just as crazy with turns as DE 15 is.   A few that I can think of offhand that have sections that seem similar to DE 15 (though usually with less concurrencies) are PA 645, PA 125, PA 372, PA 235, PA 63, PA 32, PA 997, PA 441, etc.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2045 on: July 19, 2022, 07:36:00 AM »

As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).

I toured that route recently (along with every other route in Kent and Sussex, working my way north thru New Castle presently)… what is being removed exactly?

Also, having now driven all of DE 15… why does it exist? I get the section from 13 to 14, but north of there, I see little purpose for its existence.

It was supposed to be the entire route south of the north end of the DE 24 concurrency just north of Millsboro.  (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2680762#msg2680762)

In regard to DE 15, I think you just manifested an appearance of Mr. Angery from the roadwaywiz webinars.   :-D

However, I think there are plenty of PA routes that are just as crazy with turns as DE 15 is.   A few that I can think of offhand that have sections that seem similar to DE 15 (though usually with less concurrencies) are PA 645, PA 125, PA 372, PA 235, PA 63, PA 32, PA 997, PA 441, etc.

Ah, ok. Yeah, when I drove 30 a few weeks ago, it was still completely signed straight back to the old US 13 alignment. Seems very lightly travelled in that stretch, so I can see why, but then again, why trim 30 but not 15? 😂😂😂
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2046 on: July 20, 2022, 03:21:40 PM »

(For DE 1)  SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop

I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.

It 100% is now.

As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.

Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.

A (now-retired afaik) traffic reporter on WDEL radio always referred to the flyover bringing nb 1 over 13 interchange 156 as "the jughandle at Tybouts Corner", as if that spot on the map was in New Jersey.


Here's a video on the preferred alternative for improving the SR 1 at the Tybouts Corner area.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2047 on: July 20, 2022, 06:25:00 PM »

Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?
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« Reply #2048 on: July 20, 2022, 06:50:01 PM »

Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?

It is still posted from US 13/US 40 in New Castle last I checked.
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« Reply #2049 on: July 20, 2022, 07:55:21 PM »

Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?

It is still posted from US 13/US 40 in New Castle last I checked.

Haven’t driven that way just yet but will before months end. Otherwise refs to 202 along 95 are absent from Wilmington proper south.
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