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Started by ZLoth, July 12, 2026, 08:41:01 AM

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ZLoth

From 13News Now (WVEC):

Virginia becomes first state to launch statewide court-ordered speed-limiting technology for dangerous drivers
QuoteVirginia pioneers a court-ordered speed-limiting program for habitual speeders, integrating real-time GPS in vehicles to prevent speeding.
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hotdogPi

As soon as there's a crash because the only way to avoid a collision was to speed up and it was prevented by the software...
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Max Rockatansky

Outstanding, I was beginning to run out of excuses for why I don't apply for job transfers to Virginia.

kalvado

Quote from: hotdogPi on July 12, 2026, 08:44:07 AMAs soon as there's a crash because the only way to avoid a collision was to speed up and it was prevented by the software...
While it may be a different implementation, once upon a time I got a rental with the speed limiter. It allowed like 3 seconds of higher speed before throttle hang.

ElishaGOtis

I usually ask this about these stupid ISA bills, but how does this supposedly work if you leave the state of Virginia and go to somewhere with higher speed limits (such as Texas)?

Also, where tf did 100mph come from if 20 over / 85+ was already hyper-criminal reckless driving to begin with?  X-(  :ded:

Never have I ever been a fan of active ISA mandates, even if well-intended... (as if we need more surveillance :ded: )
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GaryV

Quote from: ElishaGOtis on July 12, 2026, 11:48:12 AMhow does this supposedly work if you leave the state of Virginia and go to somewhere with higher speed limits

It said it used GPS, so if it can find you on the exact road you're traveling, I presume it can know if your out of state.

My question is how does it know about reductions due to (time and season) school zones, construction areas, etc.?


SP Cook

What a biased article.  It presents, without science, the idea that "speeders" are "dangerous".  Those of us who are old enough to remember the NNSL, or have, unlike the self-appointed do-gooder in the article, know that NMSL advocates, both during the partial repeal, the final repeal, and the many arguments locally about setting SLs safe and fast, spewed idiocy about safety.

And were dead wrong. 

As is the self-appointed in the article.  Sorry for your loss, but you know nothing about a subject you wish to speak about.  Learn history.  Learn science. 

All traffic enforcement is about $$$$$$$$ anyway.  No judge is going to do this, if people obeyed the "law", how would the courthouse gang, the FOP, and insurance companies make money?

Beltway

Thank Abigail Spanberger and her party that has flooded the zone with over 1,200 signed bills in the spring general assembly session. Mostly garbage, IMO.
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Beltway

Quote from: ZLoth on July 12, 2026, 08:41:01 AMFrom 13News Now (WVEC):
Virginia becomes first state to launch statewide court-ordered speed-limiting technology for dangerous drivers

QuoteVirginia pioneers a court-ordered speed-limiting program for habitual speeders, integrating real-time GPS in vehicles to prevent speeding.
No definition for "habitual speeders". On standard I drive 10 mph over the limit on Interstate and rural arterial highways in Virginia and have been for decades with no tickets. Don't do anything else 'wrong' and you will be fine.
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vdeane

Virginia may be the first to implementation, but they're not the only state with such a law at this point.  NY, WA, and DC have them as well.  In NY it applies to anyone with 16 tickets from red light and school speed zone camera tickets within a 12 month period.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

kalvado

Quote from: GaryV on July 12, 2026, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on July 12, 2026, 11:48:12 AMhow does this supposedly work if you leave the state of Virginia and go to somewhere with higher speed limits

It said it used GPS, so if it can find you on the exact road you're traveling, I presume it can know if your out of state.

My question is how does it know about reductions due to (time and season) school zones, construction areas, etc.?


If police catch you speeding in a work zone while already under the limiter requirements, you may find yourself in a world of bigger suffering

74/171FAN

Quote from: Beltway on July 12, 2026, 01:54:34 PMThank Abigail Spanberger and her party that has flooded the zone with over 1,200 signed bills in the spring general assembly session. Mostly garbage, IMO.

Actually no based on the article it passed last year.

QuoteAuthorized under a Virginia law passed in 2025, the program officially goes into effect July 1.
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Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 12, 2026, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: Beltway on July 12, 2026, 01:54:34 PMThank Abigail Spanberger and her party that has flooded the zone with over 1,200 signed bills in the spring general assembly session. Mostly garbage, IMO.
Actually no based on the article it passed last year.
QuoteAuthorized under a Virginia law passed in 2025, the program officially goes into effect July 1.
Hmmmm... I heard nothing about this last year ... probably meant 2026.

Quote from: vdeane on July 12, 2026, 02:51:09 PMVirginia may be the first to implementation, but they're not the only state with such a law at this point.  NY, WA, and DC have them as well.  In NY it applies to anyone with 16 tickets from red light and school speed zone camera tickets within a 12 month period.
16 tickets in 12 months? Wow. Granted that is photo traffic enforcement which I completly oppose.
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kalvado

Quote from: Beltway on July 12, 2026, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 12, 2026, 02:51:09 PMVirginia may be the first to implementation, but they're not the only state with such a law at this point.  NY, WA, and DC have them as well.  In NY it applies to anyone with 16 tickets from red light and school speed zone camera tickets within a 12 month period.
16 tickets in 12 months? Wow. Granted that is photo traffic enforcement which I completly oppose.
Then you have an NYC cop who got 187 camera tickets in 2025. Not the worst offender, though. City record is 560 camera tickets a year.

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Quote from: kalvado on July 12, 2026, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 12, 2026, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on July 12, 2026, 11:48:12 AMhow does this supposedly work if you leave the state of Virginia and go to somewhere with higher speed limits

It said it used GPS, so if it can find you on the exact road you're traveling, I presume it can know if your out of state.

My question is how does it know about reductions due to (time and season) school zones, construction areas, etc.?

If police catch you speeding in a work zone while already under the limiter requirements, you may find yourself in a world of bigger suffering

But that was partly my point. It won't let you go over 65 or 70, whatever the regular limit is. But you could be well over the 45 limit in construction, and the limiter won't do anything about it.

And those speed-trap towns, where they give you about 50 yards notice that the speed is dropping from 55 to 25, does it slam on the brakes?

(I also noticed "your" instead of "you're" in my initial post - ugg)

kalvado

Quote from: GaryV on July 12, 2026, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: kalvado on July 12, 2026, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 12, 2026, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on July 12, 2026, 11:48:12 AMhow does this supposedly work if you leave the state of Virginia and go to somewhere with higher speed limits

It said it used GPS, so if it can find you on the exact road you're traveling, I presume it can know if your out of state.

My question is how does it know about reductions due to (time and season) school zones, construction areas, etc.?

(I also noticed "your" instead of "you're" in my initial post - ugg)


If police catch you speeding in a work zone while already under the limiter requirements, you may find yourself in a world of bigger suffering

But that was partly my point. It won't let you go over 65 or 70, whatever the regular limit is. But you could be well over the 45 limit in construction, and the limiter won't do anything about it.

And those speed-trap towns, where they give you about 50 yards notice that the speed is dropping from 55 to 25, does it slam on the brakes?

And what do you think the main purpose of this limiter is? Really prevent any speeding, or ease a lead foot habit?
Remember, it's for camera tickets - not for real ones, where more than a few would quickly mean license suspension.

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Quote from: GaryV on July 12, 2026, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on July 12, 2026, 11:48:12 AMhow does this supposedly work if you leave the state of Virginia and go to somewhere with higher speed limits

It said it used GPS, so if it can find you on the exact road you're traveling, I presume it can know if your out of state.

My question is how does it know about reductions due to (time and season) school zones, construction areas, etc.?

I would also be worried about the GPS misreading your position enough to think you're on a frontage road.
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1995hoo

Quote from: Beltway on July 12, 2026, 01:54:34 PMThank Abigail Spanberger and her party that has flooded the zone with over 1,200 signed bills in the spring general assembly session. Mostly garbage, IMO.

It was 2025 under the Youngkin administration. Here's a link to the bill-tracking system showing it was enacted last year:

https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20251/HB2096
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Thing 342

Per the language of the bill, the program exists as an alternative punishment for a crime that would normally lead to a license suspension. Seems reasonable enough if the alternative is not being able to drive (legally) at all.

I do have unanswered questions about how well these systems function in practice, given that there is no central database of speed limit information and most camera-based speed limit detection systems are only "mostly" accurate. School zones and temporary/variable speed limits are another problem that cameras don't handle well, and databases don't update often enough to account for. Google Maps definitely doesn't handle them.

Dirt Roads

Quote from: Thing 342 on July 12, 2026, 06:40:34 PMI do have unanswered questions about how well these systems function in practice, given that there is no central database of speed limit information and most camera-based speed limit detection systems are only "mostly" accurate. School zones and temporary/variable speed limits are another problem that cameras don't handle well, and databases don't update often enough to account for. Google Maps definitely doesn't handle them.

We have a Toyota that apparently is using camera-based speed limit detection systems.  Whenever it can't detect the local speed limit, the system defaults to 35 MPH instead of North Carolina's statewide speed limit of 55 MPH.  I joke to my wife that it thinks we are in New Jersey.

TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: SP Cook on July 12, 2026, 01:40:14 PMWhat a biased article.  It presents, without science, the idea that "speeders" are "dangerous".

Maybe speeders in a vacuum aren't that dangerous. But a lot of speeders specifically tend to do other things besides speeding that are actually dangerous.
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Beltway

Quote from: 1995hoo on July 12, 2026, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: Beltway on July 12, 2026, 01:54:34 PMThank Abigail Spanberger and her party that has flooded the zone with over 1,200 signed bills in the spring general assembly session. Mostly garbage, IMO.
It was 2025 under the Youngkin administration. Here's a link to the bill-tracking system showing it was enacted last year:
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20251/HB2096
HB 2096 is real, it was enacted in 2025, but it doesn't create GPS‑based speed governors or statewide real‑time speed control. It's a telematics reporting device for habitual reckless drivers, similar in concept to ignition interlock but without any ability to limit speed. The WVEC 'article' circulating in the thread isn't an actual WVEC story and describes technology far beyond what the bill authorizes.

HB 2096 (2025) creates an Intelligent Speed Assistance Program as an alternative to license suspension for specific high‑risk speed offenders. It applies only to:
1. Reckless driving over 100 mph -- courts must order ISA unless they suspend the license instead.
2. Habitual speed offenders with high demerit points -- DMV offers ISA instead of suspension; no response in 30 days triggers suspension.
3. Drivers who voluntarily pre‑qualify -- may install ISA before trial; judges may consider it.

Participants must install an ISA device on any vehicle they own or operate and may not drive vehicles without one. Tampering is a Class 1 misdemeanor. The system logs speed and location but does not physically limit speed or create statewide GPS enforcement. Effective July 1, 2026.

Bottom line: HB2096 is a telematics‑monitoring alternative for extreme or habitual speed offenders -- not a statewide GPS speed‑governor program.
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1995hoo

Quote from: Beltway on July 12, 2026, 09:48:15 PMBottom line: HB2096 is a telematics‑monitoring alternative for extreme or habitual speed offenders -- not a statewide GPS speed‑governor program.

Where did I ever say otherwise?
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