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Started by I-57/Route 66 Fan, July 22, 2026, 07:09:25 PM

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Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2026, 09:23:04 AMThat doesn't stop people from avoiding restaurant lettuce of course.  I've got a friend who works at a tex-mex fast food chain around here, and they get their lettuce from a farm in the area, but sales are way down anyway because apparently people think restaurants have just decided to keep selling contaminated food.

And it's not like you can't just ask them to hold the lettuce.

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Isn't lettuce only a taco ingredient north of the Rio Grande?
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TheHighwayMan3561

The hotel restaurant last night told us up front their salads were temporarily off the menu (I wasn't planning on getting one anyway). I found that interesting.
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Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 25, 2026, 09:33:16 AMThe hotel restaurant last night told us up front their salads were temporarily off the menu (I wasn't planning on getting one anyway). I found that interesting.

So, they wanted to you know that they had been "tossing salads?"

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Me and my mom are growing our own lettuce not for diarrhea fears, but to get around high grocery prices.

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There was no decorative lettuce under our fish and chips at the local restaurant tonight.

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Quote from: triplemultiplex on July 25, 2026, 09:02:50 AMIsn't lettuce only a taco ingredient north of the Rio Grande?

I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen lettuce on tacos south of the border, and it's possible that I never have.  I've eaten plenty of restaurant tacos with a bit of lettuce on the side as a basic salad, but I don't think I've ever seen it on top of the taco itself.

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Quote from: kphoger on July 27, 2026, 09:15:24 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on July 25, 2026, 09:02:50 AMIsn't lettuce only a taco ingredient north of the Rio Grande?

I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen lettuce on tacos south of the border, and it's possible that I never have.  I've eaten plenty of restaurant tacos with a bit of lettuce on the side as a basic salad, but I don't think I've ever seen it on top of the taco itself.

My wife says she can't remember ever having lettuce in Mexican tacos.  Cabbage is the most similar equivalent ingredient.

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Quote from: kphoger on July 27, 2026, 09:15:24 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on July 25, 2026, 09:02:50 AMIsn't lettuce only a taco ingredient north of the Rio Grande?

I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen lettuce on tacos south of the border, and it's possible that I never have.  I've eaten plenty of restaurant tacos with a bit of lettuce on the side as a basic salad, but I don't think I've ever seen it on top of the taco itself.

My grandmother's mother and grandmother were from Mexico.  What she called tacos were what we (most Americans) call burritos.  She made breakfast tacos, which wouldn't have vegetables, and dinner tacos with ground beef in spicy stew cooked down from chopped canned tomatoes.  She never added raw vegetables.  Her cooking was more Mexican than Taco Bell, but I don't know how genuine it was, as I've never been to Mexico.  She also never added cheese, which my version always has, or sour cream, which I usually use, or refried beans, which I sometimes use.  My version is also more dry and less messy.
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Quote from: wxfree on July 27, 2026, 03:12:40 PMMy grandmother's mother and grandmother were from Mexico.  What she called tacos were what we (most Americans) call burritos.

Tacos are open-faced.  Burritos are all tucked up.

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A local Mexican restaurant has something they call tacos campechanos.  It includes soft corn tortillas and a meat and vegetable mix on top of them.  I fold them myself.  I think they make them that way because with soft tortillas they won't stay shaped on a plate.  I like the meat they use, but I mostly like that it's one of the few things that doesn't have beans and rice, which I don't care for.
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Quote from: wxfree on July 27, 2026, 03:40:01 PMA local Mexican restaurant has something they call tacos campechanos.  It includes soft corn tortillas and a meat and vegetable mix on top of them.

That just means tacos in the style of Campeche, which is a state (and city) north of Guatemala.

Quote from: wxfree on July 27, 2026, 03:40:01 PMI fold them myself.  I think they make them that way because with soft tortillas they won't stay shaped on a plate.

That's just what tacos are.  I'm not sure I've ever seen them already rolled/folded up in Mexico.  Maybe, but maybe not.  That's pretty much just an American thing.

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Quote from: kphoger on July 27, 2026, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: wxfree on July 27, 2026, 03:40:01 PMI fold them myself.  I think they make them that way because with soft tortillas they won't stay shaped on a plate.

That's just what tacos are.  I'm not sure I've ever seen them already rolled/folded up in Mexico.  Maybe, but maybe not.  That's pretty much just an American thing.

That is exactly what I wanted to know.  I am a descendant of Mexicans who knows little of my heritage. To me, a United State American, there had to be a reason that the tacos weren't folded when the plate was brought, but maybe to someone else that reason is obvious.  It reminds me of a physicist whose videos I've been watching who suggested that maybe we're asking the wrong question as to why things exist, and maybe instead of assuming that nothing is the default and so if something exists we should ask why, perhaps it may be that the default condition, with no god or creator, is for things to exist, and that this is the standard outcome, unless there's some god to prevent it, and that maybe there should be some shit rather than none, unless an all mighty creator decides otherwise.  It stretches the mind, but it's a beautiful thought.
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I should note that taquitos are served already rolled up.  This is because they're lightly fried, so they get rolled up before frying.  With larger tortillas, these often go by the name flautas instead, but it's the same basic food item.

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At any rate, lettuce is available in my area, because why would it be?  It only wouldn't be available if all the stores around here only sold the brands and types of lettuce that are under investigation for contamination.

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Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2026, 09:00:37 AMAt any rate, lettuce is available in my area, because why would it be?  It only wouldn't be available if all the stores around here only sold the brands and types of lettuce that are under investigation for contamination.

My wife saw something online that purported to be video of a grocery store worker taking Taylor Farms lettuce out of the bag and repackaging it in another bag that didn't have that company's name on it. She didn't know where it was supposedly filmed. I have no idea whether it was real or just scare-mongering, but it wouldn't surprise me either way.
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Quote from: 1995hoo on July 28, 2026, 09:39:56 AMMy wife saw something online that purported to be video of a grocery store worker taking Taylor Farms lettuce out of the bag and repackaging it in another bag that didn't have that company's name on it. She didn't know where it was supposedly filmed. I have no idea whether it was real or just scare-mongering, but it wouldn't surprise me either way.

Pretty impressive, that the store apparently had the hardware available to re-seal the new bags...

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I had Chick-Fil-A lettuce a couple days ago, I am OK.
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Quote from: 1995hoo on July 28, 2026, 09:39:56 AM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2026, 09:00:37 AMAt any rate, lettuce is available in my area, because why would it be?  It only wouldn't be available if all the stores around here only sold the brands and types of lettuce that are under investigation for contamination.

My wife saw something online that purported to be video of a grocery store worker taking Taylor Farms lettuce out of the bag and repackaging it in another bag that didn't have that company's name on it. She didn't know where it was supposedly filmed. I have no idea whether it was real or just scare-mongering, but it wouldn't surprise me either way.

I don't think a store would want to do this. Stores try to get rid of items that are bad (most commonly expired or no longer refrigerated/frozen) because if the customer does buy it it's possible they'll never come back.
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Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 28, 2026, 09:54:13 AMI had Chick-Fil-A lettuce a couple days ago, I am OK.

Of course you're OK.  This outbreak is way less of a risk than normal everyday foodborne illness.  So far in the USA this year, there have been about 300 hospitalizations and zero deaths linked to the cyclospora outbreak.  For comparison, in a typical year there are about 100,000 hospitalizations and 900 deaths linked to good old foodborne norovirus.  Sure, this outbreak causes worse symptoms that last longer, but your chances of getting it are pretty trivial.

Besides which, you probably wouldn't be showing symptoms this soon anyway.  Cyclospora can't just proliferate in your gut the way norovirus does:  they can only thrive inside the actual cells of your intestinal lining, and it typically takes a week or two for the fun to begin.

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Quote from: hotdogPi on July 28, 2026, 09:55:24 AMI don't think a store would want to do this. Stores try to get rid of items that are bad (most commonly expired or no longer refrigerated/frozen) because if the customer does buy it it's possible they'll never come back.

Large corporations understand this.  A small mom 'n pop store might think the switcheroo was a good way to save a penny, but that's still unlikely.

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Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2026, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 28, 2026, 09:54:13 AMI had Chick-Fil-A lettuce a couple days ago, I am OK.

Of course you're OK.  This outbreak is way less of a risk than normal everyday foodborne illness.  So far in the USA this year, there have been about 300 hospitalizations and zero deaths linked to the cyclospora outbreak.  For comparison, in a typical year there are about 100,000 hospitalizations and 900 deaths linked to good old foodborne norovirus.  Sure, this outbreak causes worse symptoms that last longer, but your chances of getting it are pretty trivial.

Besides which, you probably wouldn't be showing symptoms this soon anyway.  Cyclospora can't just proliferate in your gut the way norovirus does:  they can only thrive inside the actual cells of your intestinal lining, and it typically takes a week or two for the fun to begin.
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Quote from: I-57/Route 66 Fan on July 28, 2026, 11:10:00 AMSo that's why I feeling well one day about a week and a half ago.

Yes, you were feeling well because you weren't sick.

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Max Rockatansky

Even if someone were to get sick they likely would just shit everything out and be fine in a couple days.