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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #400 on: April 26, 2019, 12:08:34 PM »

That will definitely be an improvement, resulting in effectively 4 lanes or more on US-202 all the way thru Norristown as well as to the new US-202 parkway segment at Montgomeryville.
Would be nice if they could connect all that to the freeway in NJ.

That was the original plan in the 1970s, build a US-202 Expressway all the way between Valley Forge and NJ.
IIRC, one ultimate plan but likely not to be fulfilled would've been to have all of US 202 in PA be an Expressway.  Such a plan would've made US 202 an outer belt expressway around Philadelphia similar to what I-495 in MA is with respect to Boston.

Philadelphia and NYC together with I-287.
Had such been in place; I wouldn't have to use the NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway at all for my Philly-New England trips.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #401 on: April 26, 2019, 01:25:23 PM »

That will definitely be an improvement, resulting in effectively 4 lanes or more on US-202 all the way thru Norristown as well as to the new US-202 parkway segment at Montgomeryville.
Would be nice if they could connect all that to the freeway in NJ.

That was the original plan in the 1970s, build a US-202 Expressway all the way between Valley Forge and NJ.
IIRC, one ultimate plan but likely not to be fulfilled would've been to have all of US 202 in PA be an Expressway.  Such a plan would've made US 202 an outer belt expressway around Philadelphia similar to what I-495 in MA is with respect to Boston.

Philadelphia and NYC together with I-287.
Had such been in place; I wouldn't have to use the NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway at all for my Philly-New England trips.

The entire NJ/NY region would've been bypassed, to the point where it may not have been a worthwhile alternative if *everyone* was using the bypass!!!
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #402 on: April 26, 2019, 01:31:48 PM »

That will definitely be an improvement, resulting in effectively 4 lanes or more on US-202 all the way thru Norristown as well as to the new US-202 parkway segment at Montgomeryville.
Would be nice if they could connect all that to the freeway in NJ.

That was the original plan in the 1970s, build a US-202 Expressway all the way between Valley Forge and NJ.
IIRC, one ultimate plan but likely not to be fulfilled would've been to have all of US 202 in PA be an Expressway.  Such a plan would've made US 202 an outer belt expressway around Philadelphia similar to what I-495 in MA is with respect to Boston.

Philadelphia and NYC together with I-287.
Had such been in place; I wouldn't have to use the NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway at all for my Philly-New England trips.

The entire NJ/NY region would've been bypassed, to the point where it may not have been a worthwhile alternative if *everyone* was using the bypass!!!
Not necessarily.  The NJ/NY is still densely populated enough to have traffic on its roadways; the only change would be that it would be more O&D along with regional through-traffic rather than long-distance through traffic.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #403 on: August 26, 2019, 08:03:20 AM »

Either this is an accident or PennDOT changed its policies, but a temporary signal on US 202 in Chester County is flashing a red arrow when the thru directions have flashing yellow balls.  I know PennDOT's policy has been to not flash lights for turn signals (though most of them have been red balls up until now) so maybe this will change for when lights with red arrows go into flash mode.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #404 on: September 01, 2019, 02:17:38 PM »

Found a random button copy sign bridge still standing on PA611 approaching Pattinson Ave in Philadelphia near the sports complex.

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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #405 on: September 02, 2019, 08:49:04 AM »

Found a random button copy sign bridge still standing on PA611 approaching Pattinson Ave in Philadelphia near the sports complex.



You can see the button copy better on GSV.

However, the bottom word (which I assume refers to long gone Veterans Stadium) on the left most sign has needed pluralization since 2003 when the Eagles moved to the Linc. :) The Phils moved to Citizens Bank Park in 2004.  The Vet was imploded a week or so before the first game at CBP.

The signs and gantry appear to be in good condition, though.

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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #406 on: September 02, 2019, 09:42:41 AM »

Found a random button copy sign bridge still standing on PA611 approaching Pattinson Ave in Philadelphia near the sports complex.



Yep...drive and walk by this sign way more times than I can count!

They have added a lot more overhead signage in the sports complex over the past several years.  Except...after many events, the police prohibit turns and close streets, making much of the overhead signage useless!

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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #407 on: September 03, 2019, 09:25:44 AM »

Found a random button copy sign bridge still standing on PA611 approaching Pattinson Ave in Philadelphia near the sports complex.


It's worth noting that those I-shields are recent replacements circa 2017-2018.  The original ones featured the PennDOT-exclusive wider stroked numerals. 
2009 GSV of the same gantry with the original I-shields.  Later GSVs through 2016 show how much those original I-shields deteriorated.

The sign panels & gantry date back to the early-to-mid 1970s.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #408 on: September 03, 2019, 02:54:10 PM »

How many button copy signs are left on Roosevelt Blvd?  I know a lot have been replaced recently.

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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #409 on: September 03, 2019, 04:03:17 PM »

How many button copy signs are left on Roosevelt Blvd?  I know a lot have been replaced recently.


As of Nov. 2018; that assembly you posted is still there.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #410 on: September 03, 2019, 05:16:23 PM »

How many button copy signs are left on Roosevelt Blvd?  I know a lot have been replaced recently.


As of Nov. 2018; that assembly you posted is still there.

I'm pretty sure this was replaced earlier this year.
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« Reply #411 on: September 09, 2019, 09:38:05 AM »

Bob emailed me a few photos of the sign replacements along the Schuylkill Expressway from last week.

I-76 east at 28th Street




Replacements of the eastbound overheads for Penrose and Passyunk Avenues:

Finally got a chance to get decent pics of the new signed on I-76 EB:


As you can see the 1/4 mi advance signs for Exits 347A-B haven't been replaced as of yet. I do hope that they warn of the height restriction for 347A a lot sooner than the exit gore cause as of right now that's the first indication of a height restriction and having that exit as part of my commute home, I've seen many a semi get stuck under there.

Out of view here, but the Old Exit 43A sign is still in place as of September 4, 2019.





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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #412 on: September 09, 2019, 10:05:59 AM »

I'm still curious why those signs have rounded corners since I haven't seen any PennDOT signs put up with them since, and those signs are all before the DRPA-maintained section of the expressway.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #413 on: September 09, 2019, 02:38:09 PM »

I'm still curious why those signs have rounded corners since I haven't seen any PennDOT signs put up with them since, and those signs are all before the DRPA-maintained section of the expressway.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #414 on: September 09, 2019, 10:24:03 PM »

I'm still curious why those signs have rounded corners since I haven't seen any PennDOT signs put up with them since, and those signs are all before the DRPA-maintained section of the expressway.

I almost wonder if that's a contractor error? PennDOT has never embraced actual roundrects, but has used the rectangular signs with roundrect borders for many years. Also see they kept the unique center aligned exit tab for the Passyunk Ave exit due to the interesting geometry there.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #415 on: September 10, 2019, 10:02:03 AM »

I'm still curious why those signs have rounded corners since I haven't seen any PennDOT signs put up with them since, and those signs are all before the DRPA-maintained section of the expressway.

I almost wonder if that's a contractor error? PennDOT has never embraced actual roundrects, but has used the rectangular signs with roundrect borders for many years.

I'm not so sure. This sign here was finally put out of its misery and replaced with one with rounded corners as well.
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Re: Philadelphia
« Reply #416 on: September 10, 2019, 10:17:34 PM »

I'm still curious why those signs have rounded corners since I haven't seen any PennDOT signs put up with them since, and those signs are all before the DRPA-maintained section of the expressway.

I almost wonder if that's a contractor error? PennDOT has never embraced actual roundrects, but has used the rectangular signs with roundrect borders for many years.

I'm not so sure. This sign here was finally put out of its misery and replaced with one with rounded corners as well.
  Sometimes PennDOT waits to give a mercy killing to old signs like on the US 1 Oxford Bypass where the old PA 896 sign attached to an overpass was present long after the lettering wore off it and it was just a plain sign with no info on it for years before PennDOT replaced it.
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