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Interstate 11

Started by Interstate Trav, April 28, 2011, 12:58:30 AM

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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 15, 2025, 04:58:51 PMThe entire US 93 corridor would likely have to be completely reconstructed to bring the Interstate 11 designation into Arizona (and south to Interstate 40 in Kingman). I wouldn't be surprised if future Interstate 11 never goes beyond Kingman.

Just getting four lanes through the Joshua Tree Forest north of Wickenburg has been a close to impossible challenge.


pderocco

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 15, 2025, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 15, 2025, 04:58:51 PMThe entire US 93 corridor would likely have to be completely reconstructed to bring the Interstate 11 designation into Arizona (and south to Interstate 40 in Kingman). I wouldn't be surprised if future Interstate 11 never goes beyond Kingman.

Just getting four lanes through the Joshua Tree Forest north of Wickenburg has been a close to impossible challenge.

What's so hard about that? Is there some endangered species of activist that will be impacted?

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: pderocco on August 15, 2025, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 15, 2025, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 15, 2025, 04:58:51 PMThe entire US 93 corridor would likely have to be completely reconstructed to bring the Interstate 11 designation into Arizona (and south to Interstate 40 in Kingman). I wouldn't be surprised if future Interstate 11 never goes beyond Kingman.

Just getting four lanes through the Joshua Tree Forest north of Wickenburg has been a close to impossible challenge.

What's so hard about that? Is there some endangered species of activist that will be impacted?

No, but people have lost their shit over the prospect all the way back to the time when US 93 was just two lanes most of the way to Hoover Dam.

Henry

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 15, 2025, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: pderocco on August 15, 2025, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 15, 2025, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 15, 2025, 04:58:51 PMThe entire US 93 corridor would likely have to be completely reconstructed to bring the Interstate 11 designation into Arizona (and south to Interstate 40 in Kingman). I wouldn't be surprised if future Interstate 11 never goes beyond Kingman.

Just getting four lanes through the Joshua Tree Forest north of Wickenburg has been a close to impossible challenge.

What's so hard about that? Is there some endangered species of activist that will be impacted?

No, but people have lost their shit over the prospect all the way back to the time when US 93 was just two lanes most of the way to Hoover Dam.
I do expect I-11 to reach the Phoenix area in one way or another, so that there'd be a freeway alternative to I-17 and I-40 (and do Phoenixers really go through Flagstaff just to get to Vegas anyway?).
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Henry on August 15, 2025, 09:26:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 15, 2025, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: pderocco on August 15, 2025, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 15, 2025, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 15, 2025, 04:58:51 PMThe entire US 93 corridor would likely have to be completely reconstructed to bring the Interstate 11 designation into Arizona (and south to Interstate 40 in Kingman). I wouldn't be surprised if future Interstate 11 never goes beyond Kingman.

Just getting four lanes through the Joshua Tree Forest north of Wickenburg has been a close to impossible challenge.

What's so hard about that? Is there some endangered species of activist that will be impacted?

No, but people have lost their shit over the prospect all the way back to the time when US 93 was just two lanes most of the way to Hoover Dam.
I do expect I-11 to reach the Phoenix area in one way or another, so that there'd be a freeway alternative to I-17 and I-40 (and do Phoenixers really go through Flagstaff just to get to Vegas anyway?).

And yet the planners involved have it being routed west of the entire metro area.

Sub-Urbanite

Quote from: Henry on August 15, 2025, 09:26:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 15, 2025, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: pderocco on August 15, 2025, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 15, 2025, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 15, 2025, 04:58:51 PMThe entire US 93 corridor would likely have to be completely reconstructed to bring the Interstate 11 designation into Arizona (and south to Interstate 40 in Kingman). I wouldn't be surprised if future Interstate 11 never goes beyond Kingman.

Just getting four lanes through the Joshua Tree Forest north of Wickenburg has been a close to impossible challenge.

What's so hard about that? Is there some endangered species of activist that will be impacted?

No, but people have lost their shit over the prospect all the way back to the time when US 93 was just two lanes most of the way to Hoover Dam.
I do expect I-11 to reach the Phoenix area in one way or another, so that there'd be a freeway alternative to I-17 and I-40 (and do Phoenixers really go through Flagstaff just to get to Vegas anyway?).

When I lived in Vegas and would drive to Scottsdale to visit family, I'd regularly detour through Prescott instead of taking 93. It would add about half an hour to the drive, but it felt way safer (most of 93 was still 2-lane then) and was certainly more interesting.

Max Rockatansky

Two-lane US 93 was a menace to all involved.  I used to also go through Prescott more often than not to get up to I-40.  I used to detour via AZ 68 and NV 163 to US 95 since that was already pretty much improved for truck access.



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