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County Seats That Never Had A US Highway

Started by Brandon, May 02, 2011, 12:11:11 AM

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ftballfan

Michigan counties that have never had a US highway:
Barry - Hastings
Gladwin - Gladwin
Lapeer - Lapeer
Leelanau - Leland
Luce - Newberry
Missaukee - Lake City
Montmorency - Atlanta
Newaygo - White Cloud
Ogemaw - West Branch
Oscoda - Mio
Shiawassee - Corunna
Tuscola - Caro
Michigan counties that were served by a US highway at one time:
Calhoun - Marshall (US-12 and US-27 used to intersect in Marshall)
Chippewa - Sault Ste. Marie (US-2 used to enter Sault Ste. Marie until the 1980s)
Eaton - Charlotte (US-27 went through Charlotte)
Huron - Bad Axe (US-25 ran along the Lake Huron shoreline, but never entered Bad Axe)
Ionia - Ionia (US-16 never entered Ionia)
Macomb - Mount Clemens (US-25 went through Mount Clemens)
Otsego - Gaylord (US-27 went through Gaylord before I-75)
Saint Clair - Port Huron (US-25 went through Port Huron)
Sanilac - Sandusky (US-25 ran along the Lake Huron shoreline, but never entered Sandusky)
Michigan counties that have a US highway but does not enter its county seat:
Alger - Munising (US-41 passes through the southwest portion of the county)
Allegan - Allegan (US-31 and US-131 pass through the western and eastern sides of the county respectively)
Antrim - Bellaire (US-31 and US-131 pass through the western and eastern sides of the county respectively)
Cass - Cassopolis (US-12, and US-112 before it, stay south of Cassopolis)
Crawford - Grayling (US-27 went through Grayling, US-127 ends in the southern portion of the county)
Hillsdale - Hillsdale (US-12 misses Hillsdale to the north)
Keweenaw - Eagle River (US-41 passes two miles south)
Livingston - Howell (US-23 passes through the eastern portion of the county, but US-16 used to go through Howell)
Montcalm - Stanton (US-131 clips the western portion of the county)
Roscommon - Roscommon (US-127 passes through the western portion of the county)
Saint Joseph - Centreville (US-131 and US-12 miss Centreville to the west and south, respectively)
Van Buren - Paw Paw (US-12 went through Paw Paw, US-31 passes through the western portion of the county)


apeman33

It's not easy to find many in Kansas because there's a lot of east-west U.S. highways.

A list I don't think is complete but do think is very close to it:
Alma-Wabaunsee County: Only K-99.
Anthony-Harper County: K-2, maybe K-14, K-44 and K-179.
Cottonwood Falls-Chase County: Only K-177.
Dighton-Lane County: K-23 and K-96.
Ellsworth-Ellsworth County: K-14, K-140 and K-156 (K-140 is a former routing of U.S. 40 and K-156 was once U.S. 156).
Girard-Crawford County: K-7 and K-47.
Gove-Gove County: K-23 only.
Howard-Elk County: K-99 only.
Leoti-Wichita County: K-25 and K-96.
Marion-Marion County: U.S. 56 and U.S. 77 both come very close. But only K-256 actually goes through town.
Minneapolis-Ottawa County: Served by U.S. 81, but only K-106 actually runs through it.
Mound City-Linn County: K-7 and K-52.
Westmoreland-Pottawatomie County: Only K-99.

Russell Springs was the seat of Logan County until 1963. It has only ever had K-25 running through it. (Oakley is now the seat.)

Erie-Neosho County was once served only by K-108 inside the city limits. But now that the city has annexed land along U.S. 59, it doesn't count anymore. (And K-108 was decommissioned; because of it's U-shape with both ends meeting at U.S. 59, directional banners were never posted on it.)

Fredonia-Wilson County was once served only by K-39, K-47 and K-96. However, the routing of U.S. 400 just east of town has led to the truncation of all three routes. K-39 and K-47 now end at U.S. 400 at different points outside the city limits. K-96 was truncated all the way back to Wichita. So unless Fredonia decides to annex some land, it is currently served directly by no numbered route at all.

Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx). But then that route was eliminated when Paola annexed U.S. 169. So Paola had a U.S. route, lost it, then regained it.


NE2

Quote from: apeman33 on August 14, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx).
http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/HistoricStateMaps.asp
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

txstateends

Texas--

Rockport (Aransas Co.)
Archer City (Archer Co.)
Jourdanton (Atascosa Co.)
Bellville (Austin Co.)
Bandera (Bandera Co.)
Bastrop (Bastrop Co.)
Meridian (Bosque Co.)
Boston (Bowie Co.) -- official seat, although the courthouse is in New Boston, which has US 82 through it
Angleton (Brazoria Co.)
Silverton (Briscoe Co.)
Caldwell (Burleson Co.)
Anahuac (Chambers Co.)
Morton (Cochran Co.)
Robert Lee (Coke Co.)
Cooper (Delta Co.)
San Diego (Duval Co.)
Marlin (Falls Co.)
Garden City (Glasscock Co.)
Anderson (Grimes Co.)
Spearman (Hansford Co.)
Stinnett (Hutchinson Co.)
Fort Davis (Jeff Davis Co.)
Hebbronville (Jim Hogg Co.)
Jayton (King Co.) -- not by much, US 380 passes by less than 2 miles to the south
Kerrville (Kerr Co.)
Groesbeck (Limestone Co.)
Lipscomb (Lipscomb Co.)
Llano (Llano Co.)
Mentone (Loving Co.)
Bay City (Matagorda Co.)
Tilden (McMullen Co.)
Montague (Montague Co.)
Hemphill (Sabine Co.)
Coldspring (San Jacinto Co.)
Canton (Van Zandt Co.)
Kermit (Winkler Co.)
Quitman (Wood Co.)

(OT, Now don't, but used to have--

New Braunfels (Comal Co.) -- US 81
Ozona (Crockett Co.) -- US 290
Eastland (Eastland Co.) -- US 80
Pearsall (Frio Co.) -- US 81
Galveston (Galveston Co.) -- US 75
San Marcos (Hays Co.) -- US 81
Sierra Blanca (Hudspeth Co.) -- US 80
Cotulla (La Salle Co.) -- US 81
Centerville (Leon Co.) -- US 75
Stanton (Martin Co.) -- US 80
Colorado City (Mitchell Co.) -- US 80
Conroe (Montgomery Co.) -- US 75
Monahans (Ward Co.) -- US 80
Georgetown (Williamson Co.) -- US 81)
\/ \/ click for a bigger image \/ \/

route56

Quote from: NE2 on August 14, 2011, 01:42:49 AM
Quote from: apeman33 on August 14, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx).
http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/HistoricStateMaps.asp

That's not Scott's Job, that's my job. The reason he couldn't find in on my Kansas Highways page was because I didn't put it in. That has been rectified.

Kansas Highway 263, AKA Baptiste Drive
http://www.route56.com/highways/highways.php?hwy=263

As for the original topic: Since the thread is about county seats that NEVER had a US highway, three cities can be removed from Scott's list.
Ellsworth - as Scott noted, it was originally adjacent to US 40 and US 156.
Marion  - US 50N/56 went directly through Ellsworth until ~ 1991.
Minneapolis - US 81 went through Minneapolis until ~ 1950.

I'd also consider Fredonia to be served by US 400, despite the fact that 400 does not enter the city limits. Also, 400 would have entered the city limits prior to the opening of the new bypass alignment.

The original route through Erie was K-6. US 59 may have replaced K-6 through town prior to the new alignment on the west side of Erie. (In any case, I'd would consider Erie as having US 59 for the same reason as Fredonia having US 400.

There are two that Scott Missed:

Tribune - Greeley County: K-27 and K-96
Lincoln - Lincoln County: K-14 and K-18
Peace to you, and... don't drive like my brother.

R.P.K.

Quillz

I apologize for having not read the entire topic, but has anyone brought up Markleeville, CA, yet? It's the county seat of Alpine County and the only numbered highway is CA-89, which has never been a US highway at any point in its past. (Compared to, say, CA-70 or something else.)

sandwalk

Most county seats in northern Ohio have at least one US highway running through town.  A few exceptions I can think of are:

Lima in Allen County (previously had US Route 30-S)
Jefferson in Ashtabula County
Carrollton in Carroll County
Port Clinton in Ottawa County
Ravenna in Portage County

apeman33

Quote from: route56 on August 24, 2011, 01:00:40 AM
Quote from: NE2 on August 14, 2011, 01:42:49 AM
Quote from: apeman33 on August 14, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx).
http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/HistoricStateMaps.asp

That's not Scott's Job, that's my job. The reason he couldn't find in on my Kansas Highways page was because I didn't put it in. That has been rectified.

Kansas Highway 263, AKA Baptiste Drive
http://www.route56.com/highways/highways.php?hwy=263

I was starting to think, "I know there was something in Paola! I know it!"  :crazy:

Quote from: route56 on August 24, 2011, 01:00:40 AM
As for the original topic: Since the thread is about county seats that NEVER had a US highway, three cities can be removed from Scott's list.
Ellsworth - as Scott noted, it was originally adjacent to US 40 and US 156.
Marion  - US 50N/56 went directly through Ellsworth until ~ 1991.
Minneapolis - US 81 went through Minneapolis until ~ 1950.

I wasn't sure about the other two. Actually, I find it a bit of a surprise 81 went through Minneapolis. I've only been there once, but that would have required 81 to go quite a bit out of the way to get there, would it not?

Quote from: route56 on August 24, 2011, 01:00:40 AM
I'd also consider Fredonia to be served by US 400, despite the fact that 400 does not enter the city limits. Also, 400 would have entered the city limits prior to the opening of the new bypass alignment.

I'd forgotten it did, despite having seen that myself. (Slaps self on wrist)

Quote from: route56 on August 24, 2011, 01:00:40 AM
The original route through Erie was K-6. US 59 may have replaced K-6 through town prior to the new alignment on the west side of Erie. (In any case, I'd would consider Erie as having US 59 for the same reason as Fredonia having US 400.

There are two that Scott Missed:

Tribune - Greeley County: K-27 and K-96
Lincoln - Lincoln County: K-14 and K-18

I knew I didn't have them all but I should have gotten Tribune.  :banghead:

formulanone

La Belle, Florida is served by SR 29 and SR 80, and is the county seat of Hendry County.

Come to think of it, I can't think of any Florida counties that don't have a US Route run through at least a little part of it. Maybe Union or Dixie County, but I don't have a map handy.

bassoon1986

Quote from: brownpelican on May 02, 2011, 05:12:51 PM
The following parish seats (to my knowledge) have neither an interstate nor US Highway:

* Franklinton, Washington Parish
* Greensburg, Saint Helena Parish
* Clinton, East Feliciana Parish
* Pointe a la Hache, Plaquemines Parish
* Chalmette, Saint Bernard Parish
* Thibodaux, Lafourche Parish
* Plaquemine, Iberville Parish
* Donaldsonville, Ascension Parish
* Saint Martinville, Saint Martin Parish
* New Roads, Pointe Coupee Parish
* Cameron, Cameron Parish
* Marksville, Avoyelles Parish
* Harrisonburg, Catahoula Parish
* Benton, Bossier Parish
* Farmerville, Union Parish
* Oak Grove, West Carroll Parish

Also Assumption Parish (Napoleonville) and
St. James Parish (Convent)

In Grant Parish (Colfax), US 71 had an old alignment through the center of town on LA 158, right?
And what about Tensas Parish (St. Joseph)? I know the city proper is to the east of US 65, so do we count it or no? I'd love to discount US 425 and say that Franklin Parish (Winnsboro) is on the list too ;-)

vtk

Quote from: sandwalk on August 24, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Lima in Allen County (previously had US Route 30-S)

Lima also had US 25.

Scanning across the southern part of the state, I think we can add to the list:
* West Union, Adams County
* Batavia, Clermont County
* New Lexington, Perry County
* McConnelsville, Morgan County

Maybe?
* Caldwell, Noble County – has I-77, did it have US 21?
* Woodsfield, Monroe County – has OH 800, was this portion formerly US 21?  (WP says that parts of OH 800 were formerly OH 8, and parts of OH 8 were formerly US 21, but it's not quickly obvious which parts of US 21, if any, are now OH 800...)
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

ftballfan

Quote from: vtk on August 26, 2011, 04:58:08 PM
Quote from: sandwalk on August 24, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Lima in Allen County (previously had US Route 30-S)

Lima also had US 25.

Scanning across the southern part of the state, I think we can add to the list:
* West Union, Adams County
* Batavia, Clermont County
* New Lexington, Perry County
* McConnelsville, Morgan County

Maybe?
* Caldwell, Noble County — has I-77, did it have US 21?
* Woodsfield, Monroe County — has OH 800, was this portion formerly US 21?  (WP says that parts of OH 800 were formerly OH 8, and parts of OH 8 were formerly US 21, but it's not quickly obvious which parts of US 21, if any, are now OH 800...)
It looks like Caldwell did have US-21 while Woodsfield did not, as Woodsfield is due east of Caldwell.

drummer_evans_aki

#62
Washington State Counties

1.) Adams County (Ritzville) I-90, US-395
2.) Asotin County (Asotin) - No US Highway
3.) Benton County (Prosser) - I-82, US-12
4.) Chelan County (Wenatchee) - US-2, US-97
5.) Clallum County (Port Angeles) - US-101
6.) Clark County (Vancouver) - I-5... Former US-99 and US-830
7.) Columbia County (Dayton) - US-12
8.) Cowlitz County (Kelso) - I-5, Former US-99
9.) Douglas County (Waterville) - US-2
10.) Ferry County (Republic) - No US Highway
11.) Franklin County (Pasco) - I-182, US-12
12.) Garfield County (Pomeroy) - US-12
13.) Grant County (Ephrata) - No US Highway
14.) Grays Harbor County (Montesano) - US-12
15.) Island County (Coupeville) - No US Highway
16.) Jefferson County (Port Townsend) - No US Highway
17.) King County (Seattle) - I-5, I-90 Former US-99
18.) Kitsap County (Port Orchard) - No US Highway
19.) Kittitas County (Ellensburg) - I-82, I-90, US-97
20.) Klickitat County (Goldendale) - US-97
21.) Lewis County (Chehalis) - I-5, US-12, Former US-99
22.) Lincoln County (Davenport) - US-2
23.) Mason County (Shelton) - US-101
24.) Okanogan County (Okanogan) - US-97
25.) Pacific County (South Bend) - US-101
26.) Pend Orielle County (Newport) - US-2
27.) Pierce County (Tacoma) - I-5, I-705, Former US-99
28.) San Juan County (Friday Harbor) - No US Highways
29.) Skagit County (Mount Vernon) - I-5
30.) Skamania County (Stevenson) - Former US-830
31.) Snohomish County (Everett) - I-5, Former US-99
32.) Spokane County (Spokane) - I-90, US-2, US-195, US-395
33.) Stevens County (Colville) - US-395
34.) Thurston County (Olympia) - I-5, US-101, Former US-99
35.) Wahkiakum County (Cathlamet) - Former US-830
36.) Walla Walla County (Walla Walla) - US-12
37.) Whatcom County (Bellingham) - I-5
38.) Whitman County (Colfax) - US-195
39.) Yakima County (Yakima) - I-82, US-12, US-97

Out of 39 counties in Washington State, seven of those counties have never had a US Highway. Those are all represented in bold.

Originally I had thought that there were ten counties but I was mistaken.



Could you imagine getting directions from a guy with tourettes?

corco

Waterville, Shelton, and South Bend are all directly along US highways

drummer_evans_aki

I'll edit. Whoops. Man you're quick =)
Could you imagine getting directions from a guy with tourettes?

M86

Here's the list for South Dakota... SD US Routes have never hugely changed, with the exception of the decommissioning of US 16 (east of Rapid City/I-90, with the sections east of Rapid having both secret and signed state highways, and county roads) and US 77 (With I-29, US 77 was replaced with SD 15, SD 115, and county roads).  The rest of the other US Highway routes in SD have all seen minor modifications with alignments:  US 12, US 14, US 18, US 81, US 83, US 85, US 183, US 212, US 281, and US 385.

The county seat is first, with the county, and the highway that serves the town in parentheses.

Bison - Perkins County (SD Highway 20)
Britton - Marshall County (SD Highway 10)
Flandreau - Moody County (SD Highway 13/32)
Gann Valley - Buffalo County (SD Highway 45)
Hayti - Hamlin County (SD Highway 21)
Howard - Miner County (SD Highway 34)
Leola - McPherson County (SD Highway 10)
Madison - Lake County (SD Highway 34)
Parker - Turner County (SD Highway 44)
Timber Lake - Dewey County (SD Highway 20)
Tyndall - Bon Homme County (SD Highway 50)
Wessington Springs - Jerauld County (SD Highway 34)
Woonsocket - Sanborn County (SD Highway 34)

newyorker478

Westchester and Rockland Co's in NYS [White Plains and New City respectively]

Putnam Co NY [Carmel]


NE2

Quote from: newyorker478 on August 28, 2011, 01:27:09 AM
Westchester and Rockland Co's in NYS [White Plains and New City respectively]
White Plains had US 7 in the original 1926 plan (it would have used NY 22 from Amenia) but this may have never been signed (same caveat for US 9 on Staten Island).
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

route56

Quote from: apeman33 on August 24, 2011, 02:31:36 PM
I'd forgotten it did, despite having seen that myself. (Slaps self on wrist)

I knew I didn't have them all but I should have gotten Tribune.  :banghead:

Standard procedure is a slap in the back of the head. Look up "Gibbs slap" on youtube :)
Peace to you, and... don't drive like my brother.

R.P.K.

newyorker478

Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2011, 01:31:42 AM
Quote from: newyorker478 on August 28, 2011, 01:27:09 AM
Westchester and Rockland Co's in NYS [White Plains and New City respectively]
White Plains had US 7 in the original 1926 plan (it would have used NY 22 from Amenia) but this may have never been signed (same caveat for US 9 on Staten Island).

never was signed

NE2

Quote from: newyorker478 on August 30, 2011, 11:40:42 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2011, 01:31:42 AM
White Plains had US 7 in the original 1926 plan (it would have used NY 22 from Amenia) but this may have never been signed (same caveat for US 9 on Staten Island).

never was signed

Source?
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

agentsteel53

Quote from: newyorker478 on August 30, 2011, 11:40:42 PM

never was signed

really?  I'd always been wondering what the first year was that NY signed its US routes.  I had heard that New York City started late (as late as 1931?) but upstate was part of the first signing of 1926.  

I've always wanted to see a New York US 7 or US 9E shield.  And New York US 2 as well, which is rare for different reasons.
live from sunny San Diego.

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NE2

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 31, 2011, 12:28:05 AM
I had heard that New York City started late (as late as 1931?)
1934. From the New York Times, December 16, 1934:

and December 23:


It was a March 1932 plan that would have taken US 9 through Staten Island.
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

agentsteel53

great scans; thank you!  I am guessing that "US-9A" and "US-1A" were simply misidentified in the first photo?

the 1A is very interesting because it shows a digit "1" which I had never seen before.  Usually New York's "1" is a simple sans-serif block.  Also the absence of periods after "N" and "Y" on the 1A and 9A: it may just be the photo which washes them out - in general the stroke appears thinner, but that may just be halation.
live from sunny San Diego.

http://shields.aaroads.com

jake@aaroads.com

NE2

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 31, 2011, 12:58:25 AM
great scans; thank you!  I am guessing that "US-9A" and "US-1A" were simply misidentified in the first photo?
Presumably, as well as US 9X.
pre-1945 Florida route log

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