Colorado

[Plutonic Panda]

Something I am vocally opposed to but nonetheless seems to be the future, Colorado is expanding automated enforcement with speeding cameras issuing fines. Article says it will fine the RO regardless of the driver. Is that even legal? That isn't the only interesting part of this, they will operate via a pair of cameras that determine the average speed. I've only heard about this in Sydney, Australia. Is there anywhere else in the states that use this technique?

https://www.cpr.org/2025/08/31/cdot-cameras-monitor-speeding-highway-119/

[mrose]

Melbourne is worse than Sydney. They will fine you for exceeding the limit by 3 km/hr, but it is more like 6 as they build in a 3 km/hr margin of error. Still, 6 km/hr is IMO a fairly petty amount for a ~$250 AUD fine and it tends to make the general motoring public cynical about "safety".

They have them for red light running, and I actually don't have an issue with those.

But it is very easy for a driver to get to 6ks over if they are downhill, or the speed limit is ambiguous (which is often is).

Melbourne though has some of the most aggressive drivers in the world and it is not uncommon for P (probationary) plate holders to drive souped up vehicles.

I hate to see my former home state adopt this practice but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

[Icyhot1111]

When a state 'turns back' a highway, to a city or county, can the state 'reclaim' it?

The question's specific to my area. Harmony Road, in Fort Collins, was, up until [some recent time] CO 68. My understanding, is that it got turned back to Fort Collins, when its entire length was in city limits.

Yesterday, I drove out to Windsor, by taking Harmony (aka CR 38/CR 74) all the way to CO 257. It's 4-laned to within a mile or so of 257 now. It really seems to me like the state should take it back, since this thorofare now extends into two counties, and (as best as I can tell) is maintained by the City of Fort Collins, City of Timnath, and Weld County.

The artificial 45 mph speed limit... that's another thread.

How does that work, or does that even happen?

Sorry to quote an older post.  But, the road swaps are kinda fun to think about.

I don't think we'll ever see Harmony Rd. turned back into a state road.  In Northern Colorado, the cities and counties clearly have more money to throw at road construction and maintenance than CDOT does. 

Road swaps I think have a chance:
CO-402.  It's gotta be widened, but theirs not enough ROW to do it.  Does City of Loveland want it?
CO-14 (East Mulberry).  If the City of FC annexes this area, does the City want to maintain it?
CO-1.  Does Larimer County want it?
Owl Canyon Rd.  Does Larimer County want it to be a state road?  Lots of upgrades in recent years.
CO-392.  Between US 287 and CO 257, does it really need to be a state road?  I would assume City of FC, Town of Windsor, and Larimer County can upgrade it better than CDOT can.