Redundant Street Names

[Rushmeister]

Maybe not redundant, but a little odd:  "9th Street Rd" (between Lafayette and Battleground, Indiana) 

[nyratk1]

I always thought "Broadway Street" was redundant.

I've always wondered about that too-not necessarily sure that it is redundant, but that there is not consistency in how it is named. I've seen Broadway Street, Avenue, Boulevard, and sometimes just "Broadway". I don't think I've ever seen "Broadway Way" though.

I live on Broadway Avenue. If you take the Broadway Avenue Bridge across the river, you find yourself on Broadway Street, which intersects Broadway Road.

In Holbrook/Sayville, NY, there's a Broadway Avenue that's an unsigned county road. Its southern terminus is at Montauk Hwy. (Suffolk CR 85 and former NY 27A) and right near the intersection, Old Montauk Hwy. shortly parallels current Montauk Hwy. (which is to the south) while Old Broadway Ave. parallels current Broadway Avenue (which is to the west).

[PAHighways]

Signage on PA 284 in Buttonwood has [RT 284 HWY] signage.

Indiana County does the same thing, as for example US 119 is marked "ROUTE 119 HWY."  Even its former segments are marked "OLD ROUTE 119 HWY."

[InterstateNG]

Lansing, MI has a W. North and a N. East.

[vtk]

Plain City, OH has a section of its West St east of Chillicothe St, which therefore must be called E West St.  I'm not sure if the rest of it is W West St, or just West St.

[txstateends]

Some of the side-street signs on Corinth Street south of downtown Dallas read "Corinth Street Road".  Not sure if someone at the sign shop was feeling excessive with his lettering on those blades but I think it's only supposed to be Corinth Street.

[apeman33]

Maybe not redundant, but a little odd:  "9th Street Rd" (between Lafayette and Battleground, Indiana) 

This happens sometimes in Kansas and Missouri when a county extends the name of a city street onto the road outside the city limits. Main Street north of Joplin is known as Main Street Road. Ohio Street north of Augusta, Kan., north to K-254 becomes Ohio Street Road.

[WillWeaverRVA]

Springfield, IL has a Walnut Street Rd and an 8th Street Rd. Goochland and Louisa County, VA have a Broad Street Rd (US 250, basically the continuation of Broad Street in the City of Richmond and Henrico County).

[Chicagosuburban]

Not sure if this fits the category, but it's just really confusing:
In Chicago's Edgebrook neighborhood, both the SSW-NNE streets and the WNW-ESE streets are designated as north-south even though they are perpendicular to each other. For example, N Hiawatha Ave and N Algonquin Ave actually cross each other perpendicularly. N Hiawatha Ave is slanted more east-west than north-south but is still designated as a north-south street. However, the most notable example of this in Chicago is S Archer Ave between 50th and 55th. In that area, its slant takes it 3 miles west and only 5/8 of a mile south but it's still designated as north-south until it hooks on to W 55th St (and even then Google Maps shows it as being both W Archer Ave and S Archer Ave even though it's going due west)

[MDOTFanFB]

In the Delray neighborhood of Detroit, there is a South West End Street that is a continuation of Springwells Street.

[6a]

I'm shocked to be the first Columbusite to mention East and West North Broadway, a road significant enough to have exits on I-71 and SR315.

Edit: There is a Hardy Parkway St. signed by Franklin County but everyone calls it Hardy Parkway. It's hardly a parkway, so I wonder about the story there.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

I'm shocked to be the first Columbusite to mention East and West North Broadway, a road significant enough to have exits on I-71 and SR315.

Other than it having no suffix designation (st, ave, pkwy, etc), I didn't think E/W North Broadway's name fit this theme.

[sandwalk]

North Southport Avenue & South Southport Avenue in Chicago

[formulanone]

From Alps' Roads...Palmetto Expressway fun!

North South River Road and South South River Road, indeed.

[hm insulators]

In Glendale, California, there is a long street called Verdugo Road, which in a little community called Montrose, bends east and becomes Verdugo Boulevard as it climbs the hill into La Canada Flintridge. It used to be California 2 before the 2 Freeway was built in the 1970s.

[Scott5114]

I'm shocked to be the first Columbusite to mention East and West North Broadway, a road significant enough to have exits on I-71 and SR315.

Other than it having no suffix designation (st, ave, pkwy, etc), I didn't think E/W North Broadway's name fit this theme.

I dunno, having two directional prefixes seems pretty redundant to me.

[1995hoo]

It's not the same thing as a redundant street name, but I think the excessive bilingualism on some of the signs in the Ottawa area falls within the spirit of this thread. I have no gripe with signs that say things like "Rue Wellington St." or "Pont Champlain Bridge." It's useful guidance for people who don't speak the other language.

But the signs shown at the link below are just stupid. No speaker of either language would be confused if one of the "Avenue" abbreviations were omitted.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.371263,-75.753865&spn=0.023064,0.066047&t=h&z=15&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=45.371063,-75.754054&panoid=RTbo_hOUqhS3R5zj0H_yFA&cbp=12,207.48,,0,3.92

[vtk]

I'm shocked to be the first Columbusite to mention East and West North Broadway, a road significant enough to have exits on I-71 and SR315.

Other than it having no suffix designation (st, ave, pkwy, etc), I didn't think E/W North Broadway's name fit this theme.

I dunno, having two directional prefixes seems pretty redundant to me.

The North in North Broadway isn't a directional prefix.  It's part of the core of the name, like North Star Rd.  Most of the examples in this thread, however, have involved a directional prefix in front of a street name beginning with a direction word.  

Actually, I'm of the opinion that directional prefixes aren't really part of the road name at all, but instead they are the sign (positive or negative) part of the housenumber in an address. In many cases, it's left out entirely in casual references to the street.

[Scott5114]

I'm shocked to be the first Columbusite to mention East and West North Broadway, a road significant enough to have exits on I-71 and SR315.

Other than it having no suffix designation (st, ave, pkwy, etc), I didn't think E/W North Broadway's name fit this theme.

I dunno, having two directional prefixes seems pretty redundant to me.

The North in North Broadway isn't a directional prefix.  It's part of the core of the name, like North Star Rd.  Most of the examples in this thread, however, have involved a directional prefix in front of a street name beginning with a direction word. 

Actually, I'm of the opinion that directional prefixes aren't really part of the road name at all, but instead they are the sign (positive or negative) part of the housenumber in an address. In many cases, it's left out entirely in casual references to the street.

Maybe so, though that wouldn't necessarily be how I would interpret North Broadway as a visitor. Of course in my city the prefixes do mean something–streets numbers increase from south to north going from Reno with the N.E. or N.W. prefix, and increase going north to south with the S.E. or S.W. prefix. So there are two 10th Streets, a N.E. 10th and a N.W. 10th.

[agentsteel53]

But the signs shown at the link below are just stupid. No speaker of either language would be confused if one of the "Avenue" abbreviations were omitted.

agreed.  have about half the streets designated "Av. Foo" and the other half "Bar Ave." and use just that consistently.  (it would be confusing to see alternate signage for "Av. Foo" and "Foo Ave." - as bad as it is seeing 101 signed E/W and N/S paralleling Ventura Blvd. in Los Angeles)

[vtk]

It's not the same thing as a redundant street name, but I think the excessive bilingualism on some of the signs in the Ottawa area falls within the spirit of this thread. I have no gripe with signs that say things like "Rue Wellington St." or "Pont Champlain Bridge." It's useful guidance for people who don't speak the other language.

But the signs shown at the link below are just stupid. No speaker of either language would be confused if one of the "Avenue" abbreviations were omitted.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.371263,-75.753865&spn=0.023064,0.066047&t=h&z=15&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=45.371063,-75.754054&panoid=RTbo_hOUqhS3R5zj0H_yFA&cbp=12,207.48,,0,3.92

To me, that's just a quirky side effect of a consistent policy.  It doesn't bother me.

It does, however, remind me of a visit to southern California a few years back.  I wondered why the abbreviation for "Avenida" was "Avd" – is that abbreviation common in Spanish-speaking countries?  Seems to me "Ave" would suffice, and possibly, the only reason to use "Avd" is to avoid confusion with the English suffix Avenue – but I don't think that would be a problem in the first place.  If "Ave" was used for both words, then one can guess which expansion is correct from the placement of the abbreviation: "California Ave" would expand to "California Avenue", wheras "Ave California" would expand to "Avenida California". 

On the other hand, using "Avd" isn't any more expensive or confusing than "Ave", so there's really no downside to solving this non-existant problem of ambiguity.  And if "Avd" really is the more common Hispanic abbreviation, then this whole rant is moot anyway.

[Scott5114]

Oh, I forgot: Sunnylane Road in OKC/Del City. Sometimes seen as Sunny Lane Road, but without the space is "correct". Still though, is it a lane or a road?

[v35322]

My ex-gf lived on 31st Avenue Way.  To this day I don't understand how it got named like that.

There's a lot of streets in Greeley, Colorado named this way - my sister used to live on 2nd Street Road. Usually the double-named streets are smaller offshoots of the main street (2nd St. in this case).

Also, there's 6th Avenue Parkway in Denver.

[kj3400]

Just south of downtown Baltimore, there's a E. West St and W. West St crossing Charles St.

[bulldog1979]

South of the city limits in Traverse City, MI, the highway no longer uses "Division Street" for address purposes. Instead, it is "US 31 South" to contrast it with "US 31 East" on the other side of town. Depending on if a location is north or south of South Airport Road, street addresses are either "North US 31 South" or just "US 31 South".