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Author Topic: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project  (Read 22429 times)

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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2017, 12:44:50 AM »

Well the alignment of the southern section of the CSVT is being affected by a change in route due to fly ash basins.

Another public meeting on the same issue will be held in Selinsgrove on May 25th.

I didnít have an opportunity to stop and take pictures, but about a week ago, I drove through the area south of Winfield where the CSVTís northern interchange with existing US 15 will be sited, and a remarkable amount of earthwork has already taken place. I found this video on YouTube where someone did a drone flyover of what I saw from the ground. (Warning: unnecessary audio)

I saw the bridge and approach construction when I drove thru there back in March.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2017, 12:49:58 AM »

Has anyone yet mentioned the obvious fact that if the CSVT project is built, that I-180 could be extended down PA-147, along the new highway, and along the Selinsgrove Bypass?  Actually it would be a simplified way to designate that 20 miles of freeway, whether the existing routes are left to overlap on the freeway or are routed back onto their old surface routes.

Point still stands ... an extended designation of I-180.

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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2017, 10:10:42 AM »

It'd also need to be changed to north-south rather than the current east-west. It also might make a good I-199 once 99 is connected to Williamsport.

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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2017, 01:06:21 PM »

It'd also need to be changed to north-south rather than the current east-west. It also might make a good I-199 once 99 is connected to Williamsport.

When is PennDOT going to designate the US-15 freeway as I-99?  The section between I-180 and NY State.  It is fully Interstate standard, a very fine highway, and NY State designated their segment as I-99 about two years ago.

After doing this, US-15 could be truncated north of Williamsport.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2017, 04:03:20 PM »

It'd also need to be changed to north-south rather than the current east-west. It also might make a good I-199 once 99 is connected to Williamsport.

When is PennDOT going to designate the US-15 freeway as I-99?  The section between I-180 and NY State.  It is fully Interstate standard, a very fine highway, and NY State designated their segment as I-99 about two years ago.

After doing this, US-15 could be truncated north of Williamsport.

They probably won't designate any more of it until they finish the remaining missing links: the I-80 interchange and the gaps in the 220 expressway west of Williamsport.

And yes, I think 15 should be truncated to Williamsport. Get rid of NY 15 along 390 and 86 too. You could even argue for cutting 15 back to 581 in Harrisburg if I-180 were extended down the CSVT and/or turned into I-199. Between Shamokin Dam and Williamsport, it'd become a PA x15 route.

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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2017, 06:01:05 PM »

Thanks for posting this drone video, I was in the area last month but was getting dark and did not have time to do more thorough scouting of the area. It is looking more and more like I am going to be doing this meet before my Shrewsbury meet (spring 2018), more on this on the Road Meet section. ;-)
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2017, 08:09:38 PM »

When is PennDOT going to designate the US-15 freeway as I-99?  The section between I-180 and NY State.  It is fully Interstate standard, a very fine highway, and NY State designated their segment as I-99 about two years ago.

After doing this, US-15 could be truncated north of Williamsport.

They probably won't designate any more of it until they finish the remaining missing links: the I-80 interchange and the gaps in the 220 expressway west of Williamsport.

And yes, I think 15 should be truncated to Williamsport. Get rid of NY 15 along 390 and 86 too. You could even argue for cutting 15 back to 581 in Harrisburg if I-180 were extended down the CSVT and/or turned into I-199. Between Shamokin Dam and Williamsport, it'd become a PA x15 route.

They have a completed Interstate standard US-15 highway between I-180 and I-86.  No reason why they shouldn't designate it now with I-99.  In conjunction with I-180 this highway connects two mainline Interstates -- I-80 and I-86.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2017, 02:53:20 PM »

Not a whole lot of news in this article, but a few decent pictures are present of the bridge construction over the Susquehanna River: http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/10/mammoth_bridge_taking_shape_ov.html

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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2017, 04:29:38 PM »

Not a whole lot of news in this article, but a few decent pictures are present of the bridge construction over the Susquehanna River: http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/10/mammoth_bridge_taking_shape_ov.html

I rode thru the project on both sides of the river a few weeks ago.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2017, 09:26:00 AM »

Another update on the CSVT. Article quotes PennDot secretary positing the idea that the northern section of the bypass may not open until the entire project is complete. Also includes a brief note about the necessary rerouting of part of the southern section.

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/10/opening_of_csvt_river_bridge_c.html
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2017, 10:14:58 AM »

The only reason I can think of for that is that they're afraid that the increased traffic on US 15 between the 11/15 split and the new interchange would cause more accidents in that stretch, especially the undivided 4-lane downhill stretch without a TWLTL.  But otherwise, I don't know why they shouldn't open the northern section when it's finished.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2017, 12:36:02 PM »

The only reason I can think of for that is that they're afraid that the increased traffic on US 15 between the 11/15 split and the new interchange would cause more accidents in that stretch, especially the undivided 4-lane downhill stretch without a TWLTL.  But otherwise, I don't know why they shouldn't open the northern section when it's finished.

I agree.  Looking at the interchange designs, the northern section should be a Segment of Independent Utility (SIU) in and of itself.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2017, 01:21:54 PM »

I think this is a good thing. It increases the likelihood that the southern section will be built.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2017, 01:26:35 PM »

I think this is a good thing. It increases the likelihood that the southern section will be built.

But its construction is scheduled for 3 or 4 years later.  That means that we could have a completed bridge and approach highways just sitting there without traffic for 3 or 4 years.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2017, 08:37:35 PM »

I passed through Shamokin Dam recently and got to see the enormous construction project where the US 15/PA 147 interchange at the southern end of the bridge is being built. I went looking for the project maps and now have several questions:

1. Why is US 11 staying on the existing route through the town instead of being routed onto the southern end of the bypass, then down the link with the existing PA 61 interchange to regain its existing route? Keeping US 11 on the original route seems like it could lead to confusion due to the lengthy concurrence of 11/15.
2. Iím curious to know which route number will end up being used for the inventory sign posts along the mainline of the bypass - will it be SR 15 or SR 147, or a combination of both?
3. Will the bridge across the West Branch include any pedestrian facilities? There are Park and Rides in the US 15/US 15 Business interchange on the south side and the SR 1024 interchange on the north side, where a pedestrian multi-use facility could begin and end.
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Re: Central Susquehanna Valley Transportation Project
« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2017, 07:11:49 AM »

http://www.dailyitem.com/news/local_news/thruway-open-to-traffic-two-years-before-completion-date/article_162cde29-f7ae-52d0-8618-4c375fd475a9.html

Looks like our question is answered... The northern sections will be open to traffic in 2022, no matter where construction is on the southern part.
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