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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2019, 10:01:33 AM »

I don't think it's possible to argue, for example, that NY 104 from Williamson to Wolcott is not a Super 2.

Sure it is. NY-104 is not a Super 2.
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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2019, 06:04:09 PM »

I drove the Cornwall Bypass earlier today. Some quick notes, with more to follow:

-- The bypass is two lanes undivided with some passing lanes. One interchange in the middle, plus one at its west end (the east end is at a roundabout). And no at-grade intersections. I would call it a freeway, and a Super 2 at that.

-- No obvious plans or potential for expansion or extension. I drove it westbound during Charlottetown's rush hour, no problem handling the volume.

-- No exit numbers. There will be exit numbers on Saskatchewan's soon-to-open Regina Bypass. That might leave PEI as the only province with a freeway but no exit numbers.

-- 90 km/h posted speed limit. That's the max I've seen on other parts of the TCH in PEI, and IIRC on any other PEI highway.
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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2019, 08:57:19 PM »

I don't think it's possible to argue, for example, that NY 104 from Williamson to Wolcott is not a Super 2.
Sure it is. NY-104 is not a Super 2.

That's just a (false) statement, not an argument.
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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2019, 09:18:36 PM »

Hm.  I liked PEI when I visited it back in the late 1980s. 

A bypass?  Sounds like PEI has built up considerably and I wonder if it has been for the better.
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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2019, 11:43:36 PM »

Hm.  I liked PEI when I visited it back in the late 1980s. 

A bypass?  Sounds like PEI has built up considerably and I wonder if it has been for the better.
Mostly around Ctown, and not enough to destroy the island's character that I've noticed.

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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2019, 03:39:44 AM »

Here...take a drive....(found this posted on YouTube)


Hope to get over to the Island this weekend for a drive.
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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2019, 12:32:59 PM »

And with that video, I have marked the Cornwall Bypass on OpenStreetMap as open between its east end and the Cornwall Road interchange, tagged as a motorway. Everything west of the interchange is still marked with construction tags because the west end needs to be redrawn and I don't know what it looks like.
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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2019, 06:23:48 PM »

Wow!  I didn't realize when I drove across PEI on October 1st that I'd be within one month's time of the new freeway opening!  I tried to take some pictures driving through there, but this was the only good one that turned out.  This photo shows the westbound on-ramp at the western end of the new freeway.  Flaggers routed us around the two new roundabouts at the interchange.

Sections of TCH-1 on the north and northwest sides of Charlottetown are super-2-esque in nature, too, but with no ramps to make it plainly obvious (see the overpass over Provincial Highway 236).


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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2019, 08:31:32 PM »

And with that video, I have marked the Cornwall Bypass on OpenStreetMap as open between its east end and the Cornwall Road interchange, tagged as a motorway. Everything west of the interchange is still marked with construction tags because the west end needs to be redrawn and I don't know what it looks like.

Since it's open to traffic, why mark it with construction tags? The part west of the interchange needs some corrections, mainly to show the interchange at the west end, and eliminate the supposed at-grade intersections. But the greater error is to show it as not yet open to traffic.

The interchange at the west end is roughly similar to the one at Cornwall Rd., with ramps from both EB and WB TCH 1, each connecting to a small traffic circle (from WB, just a partial circle, since there's no road continuing north of the circle). There is a small bypassed fragment of Main St. south of the interchange, which is not signed with a route number.

You could also mark the old TCH through Cornwall and Clyde River as PEI route 27. The video shows route 27 markers at the west end of the bypass in both directions. This photo I took the day after the bypass opened shows a route 27 marker for the off-ramp for Main St., at the traffic circle at the east end of the bypass.
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Re: PEI's first freeway segment?
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2019, 12:00:51 AM »

And with that video, I have marked the Cornwall Bypass on OpenStreetMap as open between its east end and the Cornwall Road interchange, tagged as a motorway. Everything west of the interchange is still marked with construction tags because the west end needs to be redrawn and I don't know what it looks like.

Since it's open to traffic, why mark it with construction tags? The part west of the interchange needs some corrections
You kinda answered your own question for me. I can't make those corrections since I don't know what they look like. I live in South Dakota, not Prince Edward Island.

But I see your reasoning. I will mark the rest of the route as open, with a fixme request and a map note at the west end.
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