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Cutouts
« on: April 01, 2009, 11:39:45 PM »

Why is California the only state that has cutout state and US highway shields? I never understood why they don't do that.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2009, 12:44:44 AM »

I ponder the same question.  I like the cutout style better than the others.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2009, 07:16:02 AM »

California and places in Virginia are the last holdouts for cutout route markers...

There are isolated cutouts or patches of cutouts in some other States, (Jake was in one small town in Kansas a year or two back and saw a whole street of US 36 cutouts...KDOT obviously hadnt gotten that far in YEARS) but they are far and few in between...
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2009, 10:34:53 AM »

Illinois has one, atleast a few months ago they did.  When I-80/94/U.S. 6 was re built a EB marker for U.S. 6 was a cut out...

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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2009, 10:37:50 AM »

I don't have a picture of it, but on westbound I-84/US-26/US-30 near Glenn's Ferry, Idaho, there's a cutout US-26 shield along the line of that US-6 shield.

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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2009, 11:21:04 AM »

Oklahoma has some cutouts for Business US 60 at Seneca and Alternate US 69.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2009, 11:44:10 AM »

Wisconsin seems to go the other extreme.  They put Interstate shields on black boxes for multiplexes - and some singletons
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2009, 12:46:24 PM »

WA usually does that too, master son, but some older shields (from the 70's) are cutouts.'

I don't see any cutout U.S. or state highway markers...they'd be either with a black or green background.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2009, 09:19:05 AM »

Washington never used cutouts for State markers...you always had ol' George looking off to the side from his black box...

Some states always used squares or rectangles for their markers (The New England States, Indiana, Illinois, Montana come to my mind immediately). 

7 states in the early days used state shapes inside squares or rectangles (Alabama, Idaho, Indiana, Illinois, Louisiana, Nevada, and South Carolina)

The only states that used State-shaped cutouts for route markers were Ohio, Missouri Georgia, Arizona, and Arkansas....other States used state shields or symbols   
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 11:17:34 AM »

I think I saw a pic of one Primary State Highway (Washington, 1937-1964) shield that was cutout. It looked very strange.. :eyebrow:
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 11:36:40 AM »

What about US 3 in Massachusetts? That has loads of cutout shields.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2009, 01:28:10 PM »

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Washington had a brief run in the early 90's where they put interstate shields on white backgrounds resulting in ugly shields like this


but new interstate shields are all cutout along the very standard neutered design.

As far as the state highway shields, Washington hasn't used cutouts since at least 1954

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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2009, 02:11:48 PM »

Thanks for pointing that out...around here (Marysville) the "TO I-5" signs are cutouts and sometimes with white, ugly backgrounds.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 02:20:14 PM »

Wow, those square Interstate signs are ugly indeed.  :ded:

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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 08:48:37 PM »

I saw cut outs in several places in Virginia this past weekend.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2009, 09:37:37 PM »

Connecticut has their state route markers cut out. ;-)

Kidding aside, somehow I think the answer is simple: non-cutout markers are cheaper and easier to manufacture. No DOT wants to waste taxpayer money on more expensive signs.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2009, 04:02:02 AM »

I'd reckon the cutout markers would be slightly cheaper since they use less metal. Think about it—if Michigan used cutouts they'd save 50% of the cost on each sign!
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2009, 11:27:10 AM »

But it takes fewer cuts to make a square. It'd be very time-consuming to cut out all those little details, even on something the size of a route marker.

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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2009, 11:40:27 AM »

Re: corco's photo of I-82/US 12
That I-82 sign disturbs my soul. It's so ugly! X-( X-(


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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2009, 03:26:07 PM »

deathtopumpkins: But in the instance that Scott5114 mentioned (Michigan), no actual "cutting out" is required - just take a square sign blank and tilt it 45 degrees, and you have instant cutout!  :sombrero:
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2009, 05:10:50 PM »

Oh yeah Michigan uses the diamond-shaped ones doesn't it?  :-D Same for North Carolina too...
Those I could understand using cutouts for.

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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2009, 04:16:23 PM »

Here's WA's cutout I-90 and non-cutout I-90 from Mark O'Neil's site. (photos taken by Joe Koehler)


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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2009, 05:00:01 PM »

That non-cutout is really ugly...

Oh, and I noticed a non-cutout I-64 sign here today (on the ramp from US-258 SB to LaSalle Ave. SB) mounted on a square blue background.

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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2009, 12:08:45 AM »

I've never seen a non-cutout Interstate shield.  On the other hand, I've never seen a state or US route cutout shield, either.
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Re: Cutouts
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2009, 12:55:45 AM »

Michael...

I can fix THAT real fast!








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