Wisconsin notes

[The Ghostbuster]

Of course, Interstate 43 was originally supposed to follow the STH 57 corridor between Saukville and Green Bay (and possibly would've been numbered Interstate 57). Although the Interstate 43 corridor only goes from Milwaukee to Green Bay (I'm excluding the segment of 43 between Beloit and Milwaukee that came later), the original proposal for what became Interstate 43 was originally to have gone all the way to Superior. Had the Milwaukee-to-Superior route been approved and built as proposed, it would have followed STH 29 to Wausau; US 51 to Hurley; and US 2 (and US 53) to Superior. Could any of you imagine such a route being constructed (I can't)?

[mgk920]

Of course, Interstate 43 was originally supposed to follow the STH 57 corridor between Saukville and Green Bay (and possibly would've been numbered Interstate 57). Although the Interstate 43 corridor only goes from Milwaukee to Green Bay (I'm excluding the segment of 43 between Beloit and Milwaukee that came later), the original proposal for what became Interstate 43 was originally to have gone all the way to Superior. Had the Milwaukee-to-Superior route been approved and built as proposed, it would have followed STH 29 to Wausau; US 51 to Hurley; and US 2 (and US 53) to Superior. Could any of you imagine such a route being constructed (I can't)?

What is now I-43 towards Sheboygan was originally planned to feed into the Stadium North Freeway in Milwaukee.  See the layout of the ghost grades at the current I-43/WI 57 split (Port Washington Interchange).

Mike

[The Ghostbuster]

And now the remainder of the Stadium North Freeway is likely to be downgraded: https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/175study/default.aspx.

[SSOWorld]

And now the remainder of the Stadium North Freeway is likely to be downgraded: https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/175study/default.aspx.

Won't be missed

[Molandfreak]

Is a truncation of STH-175 in the cards when the project is completed?

[hobsini2]

Is a truncation of STH-175 in the cards when the project is completed?

Only if WisDOT needs miles for another state route.
It is funny how the designation for the Stadium Frwy/Pkwy has changed in the last 25 odd years.
US 41, Wis 341 (unsigned), Wis 175 and now maybe just nothing.

[mgk920]

I can see the Stadium North corridor north of Vliet St becoming a traffic carrying boulevard street feeding directly into Sherman BD at Appleton Ave and an intgral part of Washington Park.

Mike

[The Ghostbuster]

I would have preferred the Stadium North be downgraded into a four-lane parkway, similar to Brewers Blvd. and the STH 794 Lake Parkway. In any event, the last PIM was nearly a year ago, with no updates on any final decisions on how the corridor will eventually be reconstructed.

[FightingIrish]

Apparently starting this fall, I-94 is going to have the bridge fixtures replaced over the Rock River and Crawfish River. And it will be widened to three lanes apiece for a future potential widening of I-94.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/94bridges-jefferson/default.aspx

I've noticed many newer bridges on I-94 and I-43 (Rock Freeway) have been built to accommodate possible future widening to three lanes each direction. A kind of future proofing.

[FightingIrish]

Is a truncation of STH-175 in the cards when the project is completed?

Only if WisDOT needs miles for another state route.
It is funny how the designation for the Stadium Frwy/Pkwy has changed in the last 25 odd years.
US 41, Wis 341 (unsigned), Wis 175 and now maybe just nothing.

I think WIS 24 would probably be first to go. The state's been whittling away at it for decades.

[The Ghostbuster]

The western end of STH 24 was retracted to the Milwaukee/Waukesha County Line in the late 1980s (old 24, of course, became CTH L). STH 24 probably won't be decommissioned anytime soon, although if it was, STH 241 may have to be truncated to STH 36's eastern terminus.

[FightingIrish]

The western end of STH 24 was retracted to the Milwaukee/Waukesha County Line in the late 1980s (old 24, of course, became CTH L). STH 24 probably won't be decommissioned anytime soon, although if it was, STH 241 may have to be truncated to STH 36's eastern terminus.

Not necessarily. Wisconsin has been known to end state highways at odd spots. Such as a county line.

[hobsini2]

I can see the Stadium North corridor north of Vliet St becoming a traffic carrying boulevard street feeding directly into Sherman BD at Appleton Ave and an intgral part of Washington Park.

Mike

I actually proposed that a few years ago in the fictional thread.

[peterj920]

Is a truncation of STH-175 in the cards when the project is completed?

Only if WisDOT needs miles for another state route.
It is funny how the designation for the Stadium Frwy/Pkwy has changed in the last 25 odd years.
US 41, Wis 341 (unsigned), Wis 175 and now maybe just nothing.

I think WIS 24 would probably be first to go. The state's been whittling away at it for decades.

At least Wis 24 has a decent amount of traffic. Wis 127 and Wis 134 should be the first highways to go. Wis 127 is an older alignment of US 16 that goes nowhere while Wis 134 goes from Cambridge to London, a small unincorporated community.

[mgk920]

Is a truncation of STH-175 in the cards when the project is completed?

Only if WisDOT needs miles for another state route.
It is funny how the designation for the Stadium Frwy/Pkwy has changed in the last 25 odd years.
US 41, Wis 341 (unsigned), Wis 175 and now maybe just nothing.

I think WIS 24 would probably be first to go. The state's been whittling away at it for decades.

At least Wis 24 has a decent amount of traffic. Wis 127 and Wis 134 should be the first highways to go. Wis 127 is an older alignment of US 16 that goes nowhere while Wis 134 goes from Cambridge to London, a small unincorporated community.

I can come up with a few others statewide that should also get similar treatment.

Mike

[hobsini2]

Is a truncation of STH-175 in the cards when the project is completed?

Only if WisDOT needs miles for another state route.
It is funny how the designation for the Stadium Frwy/Pkwy has changed in the last 25 odd years.
US 41, Wis 341 (unsigned), Wis 175 and now maybe just nothing.

I think WIS 24 would probably be first to go. The state's been whittling away at it for decades.

At least Wis 24 has a decent amount of traffic. Wis 127 and Wis 134 should be the first highways to go. Wis 127 is an older alignment of US 16 that goes nowhere while Wis 134 goes from Cambridge to London, a small unincorporated community.

I can come up with a few others statewide that should also get similar treatment.

Mike

While I agree that Wis 127 should go to being a county highway, I would actually extend Wis 134 north Waterloo instead of it being Hwy O.

[triplemultiplex]

Visiting Lambeau for the first time September 6.

Dude, we were at the same game. 

[Big John]

Visiting Lambeau for the first time September 6.

Dude, we were at the same game. 

He means this year's UW/ND game.

[triplemultiplex]

Ooh, off by this much >|<
 

[SEWIGuy]

Is a truncation of STH-175 in the cards when the project is completed?

Only if WisDOT needs miles for another state route.
It is funny how the designation for the Stadium Frwy/Pkwy has changed in the last 25 odd years.
US 41, Wis 341 (unsigned), Wis 175 and now maybe just nothing.

I think WIS 24 would probably be first to go. The state's been whittling away at it for decades.

At least Wis 24 has a decent amount of traffic. Wis 127 and Wis 134 should be the first highways to go. Wis 127 is an older alignment of US 16 that goes nowhere while Wis 134 goes from Cambridge to London, a small unincorporated community.

I can come up with a few others statewide that should also get similar treatment.

Mike

While I agree that Wis 127 should go to being a county highway, I would actually extend Wis 134 north Waterloo instead of it being Hwy O.

It's perfect as a county highway. There's no traffic there.

[hobsini2]

Is a truncation of STH-175 in the cards when the project is completed?

Only if WisDOT needs miles for another state route.
It is funny how the designation for the Stadium Frwy/Pkwy has changed in the last 25 odd years.
US 41, Wis 341 (unsigned), Wis 175 and now maybe just nothing.

I think WIS 24 would probably be first to go. The state's been whittling away at it for decades.

At least Wis 24 has a decent amount of traffic. Wis 127 and Wis 134 should be the first highways to go. Wis 127 is an older alignment of US 16 that goes nowhere while Wis 134 goes from Cambridge to London, a small unincorporated community.

I can come up with a few others statewide that should also get similar treatment.

Mike

While I agree that Wis 127 should go to being a county highway, I would actually extend Wis 134 north Waterloo instead of it being Hwy O.

It's perfect as a county highway. There's no traffic there.

I'm fine with it being either. I just don't like Wis 134 ending at a random crossroad in an unincorporated town. Cambridge to Waterloo at least is a decent corridor.

[SEWIGuy]

It's just one of those legacy things with banked mileage that they can use when circumstances call for them.

[mgk920]

Ahhh, Work has begun for the season in the I-41 construction-geek zone from northwest Appleton to De Pere.   

Mike

[peterj920]

I see the mile markers on I-41 from Oshkosh to Appleton and in Green Bay have all been replaced. The color has changed from blue to green. The days of the blue signs are numbered.

[The Ghostbuster]

I prefer blue mileposts in the median than green mileposts posted every mile on the side.