Indiana highway reroutes

[silverback1065]

mukade could you explain the new routing of sr 62 again? are you saying that sr 62 stays on its old alignment from where it multiplexed with the now old 231 just north of chrisney and that it bypasses dale from the west then turns onto what used to be sr 68 to go through dale?

[mukade]

mukade could you explain the new routing of sr 62 again? are you saying that sr 62 stays on its old alignment from where it multiplexed with the now old 231 just north of chrisney and that it bypasses dale from the west then turns onto what used to be sr 68 to go through dale?

Right. SR 62 goes along the new US 231 for a mile or two near Dale. The  Official Indiana State Highway Map shows it correctly.

[silverback1065]

Get ready for some big changes on 69 they are renumbering the exits in the next 2 months according to wish tv

[silverback1065]

This isnt a state highway but is there any news on the Ronald Reagan pwy extension south of us 36? I see that the bridge is done yet the road isnt open (as of last month the last time i was out there)

[silverback1065]

I see now that SR 26 now is discontinuous in Lafayette now, it now ends at us 231 and reappears again east of i-65.  I don't know why they are doing this now, I thought the plan was to reroute it onto the new 231 and onto teal and SR 38 next November.   

[PurdueBill]

I see now that SR 26 now is discontinuous in Lafayette now, it now ends at us 231 and reappears again east of i-65.  I don't know why they are doing this now, I thought the plan was to reroute it onto the new 231 and onto teal and SR 38 next November.   

I saw that yesterday while in town; there is indeed a really large END EAST 26 assembly at River Road/US 231 which is bizarre if they are going to post 26 as turning onto new 231 out west of town.

I still wonder what becomes of the eastern/southern end of 225 and the southern end of 43; I haven't found anything about it but maybe I keep looking in the wrong place.

[silverback1065]

I see now that SR 26 now is discontinuous in Lafayette now, it now ends at us 231 and reappears again east of i-65.  I don't know why they are doing this now, I thought the plan was to reroute it onto the new 231 and onto teal and SR 38 next November.   

I saw that yesterday while in town; there is indeed a really large END EAST 26 assembly at River Road/US 231 which is bizarre if they are going to post 26 as turning onto new 231 out west of town.

I still wonder what becomes of the eastern/southern end of 225 and the southern end of 43; I haven't found anything about it but maybe I keep looking in the wrong place.

I wonder the same thing, my guess is that 43 gets cut back to 65 and 225 is decommissioned.  It would be nice for 43 to be extended to the new 231 bypass and 225 get extended to the new 25

[mukade]

I'll speculate that SR 43 will be extended down River Road to the new US 231, but who knows. If US 52 is removed from Sagamore Pkwy, there will definitely be no need for SR 443.

I'll speculate that SR 225 will end north of the Wabash River at Prophetstown SP. That would remove that one lane bridge from the state highway system.

As for SR 26, as much as I don't really like it becoming discontinuous, it is better than following I-65, SR 38, SR 25, and US 231. I was just there 2 or 3 weeks ago, and I saw no END signs on 26, but I did notice that it was not marked eastbound past US 52.

[tdindy88]

I was in Lafayette last May and still saw SR 26 signs in downtown Lafayette, obviously it seems those are now gone. I can see SR 225 ending at Prophetstown SP soon since INDOT like to maintain some state-maintained access road to state parks, coming from SR 43 to the west. In which case then, if SR 443 goes away, maybe we should turn SR 225 into a spur route of 43, not 443 but maybe 143 or 343, since the 225 would no longer be connected to its parent. Or we could just decomission 225 or just not worry about it at all (SR 129 and 229 have been away from their parents for a long time anyway.)

[mukade]

I think your last thought is right. If it is not decommissioned, it will most likely stay SR 225. In addition to the x29s, there are also x34s and an x21 that are child routes of parents that are deceased (so to speak). As for SR 143, it is taken - it is a spur off US 421 on a section in Pulaski County that was once SR 43.

[tvketchum]

I was in Lafayette last May and still saw SR 26 signs in downtown Lafayette, obviously it seems those are now gone. I can see SR 225 ending at Prophetstown SP soon since INDOT like to maintain some state-maintained access road to state parks, coming from SR 43 to the west. In which case then, if SR 443 goes away, maybe we should turn SR 225 into a spur route of 43, not 443 but maybe 143 or 343, since the 225 would no longer be connected to its parent. Or we could just decomission 225 or just not worry about it at all (SR 129 and 229 have been away from their parents for a long time anyway.)

SR 225 has no access to the State Park. It goes over a bridge to avoid the park road from the entrance gate to the campground. The service area/park office does have a driveway to SR 225, but no connections between that drive and the one from the park road.

[mukade]

SR 225 has no access to the State Park. It goes over a bridge to avoid the park road from the entrance gate to the campground. The service area/park office does have a driveway to SR 225, but no connections between that drive and the one from the park road.

What you describe for SR 225 is typical for a road not ending at the state park. Many state roads go by state parks not necessarily with direct access. Generally, for a road to connect directly to a state park entrance, the state road would end at the boundary of the state park. A few examples come to mind: SR 49, SR 269, SR 201, and SR 727. I can't think of a state road in a state park offhand.

[PurdueBill]

SR 225 has no access to the State Park. It goes over a bridge to avoid the park road from the entrance gate to the campground. The service area/park office does have a driveway to SR 225, but no connections between that drive and the one from the park road.

What you describe for SR 225 is typical for a road not ending at the state park. Many state roads go by state parks not necessarily with direct access. Generally, for a road to connect directly to a state park entrance, the state road would end at the boundary of the state park. A few examples come to mind: SR 49, SR 269, SR 201, and SR 727. I can't think of a state road in a state park offhand.

I guess the issue with 225 is that there isn't public access at all to the park from 225; access is from SR 43 to Burnett to 9th to Swisher.  Only the official access/maintenance building has access to 225.  I suppose they could end 225 at the maintenance entrance in order to keep state ownership of the 225 overpass over the park entrance road, but does the state own the overpass anyway even if 225 is trimmed back to the center of Battle Ground?

[silverback1065]

It will be interesting to see what happens, since I go to Purdue I'll try to take and post some pictures of the bypass if I have time soon.

[silverback1065]

Now SR 225 just ends at a country road due to SR 25 being moved. 

[Rushmeister]

Now SR 225 just ends at a country road due to SR 25 being moved.

Seems a little odd, doesn't it?  Usually that only happens at state lines (I'm thinking of the west end of Indiana 18 where it just sort of ends abruptly out in the middle of nowhere.)

Because we're accustomed to thinking of state highways as primary thoroughfares that carry more traffic than county roads, it seems a little strange that SR 225 is still a state highway.  Surely Indiana 225's days must be numbered.  I wonder what name Tippecanoe County will assign to SR 225 if and when the State decommissions it.  "Old SR 225" won't do -- since there won't be a "new" SR 225 replacing it.

[silverback1065]

I agree, 225 is essentially useless now. 

[theline]

Now SR 225 just ends at a country road due to SR 25 being moved.

Seems a little odd, doesn't it?  Usually that only happens at state lines (I'm thinking of the west end of Indiana 18 where it just sort of ends abruptly out in the middle of nowhere.)

Because we're accustomed to thinking of state highways as primary thoroughfares that carry more traffic than county roads, it seems a little strange that SR 225 is still a state highway.  Surely Indiana 225's days must be numbered.  I wonder what name Tippecanoe County will assign to SR 225 if and when the State decommissions it.  "Old SR 225" won't do -- since there won't be a "new" SR 225 replacing it.

A bit odd, but not unique, especially for a 3-digit SR. SR-332's east end is at the Tillotson Ave. intersection in Muncie. Presumably, the state just didn't want to take over maintenance of McGalliard Rd. through Muncie to connect up with the east side bypass.

[tdindy88]

I was down in Southern Indiana today and went to New Harmony, speaking of highways that dead end at the moment, SR 66 ends at the foot of the now-closed bridge over the Wabash, making that highway essentially a spur route off of SR 69. An interesting note about SR 332, it is the only state highway not to touch another state highway.

[theline]

^ Interesting unique feature of SR-332. The west end is at I-69, obviously not an SR.

For those not aware, the road was started as a county road to give Muncie better access to the interstate. It got built halfway there as a 2-laner, when squabbles among county commissioners (or was it the county council?) brought the road to a halt in a farmer's field. The state finally came to rescue, taking over the project and eventually expanding to the expressway that it is today.

[NWI_Irish96]

I was down in Southern Indiana today and went to New Harmony, speaking of highways that dead end at the moment, SR 66 ends at the foot of the now-closed bridge over the Wabash, making that highway essentially a spur route off of SR 69. An interesting note about SR 332, it is the only state highway not to touch another state highway.

SR 53, SR 212, SR 249, and SR 520 all intersect US/Interstate highways but no other state highways.

[mukade]

I was down in Southern Indiana today and went to New Harmony, speaking of highways that dead end at the moment, SR 66 ends at the foot of the now-closed bridge over the Wabash, making that highway essentially a spur route off of SR 69. An interesting note about SR 332, it is the only state highway not to touch another state highway.

SR 53, SR 212, SR 249, and SR 520 all intersect US/Interstate highways but no other state highways.

Of course SR 53 used intersect SR 330 and SR 202 (sorry, I used to live in that area). The others are very short.

Many state roads end at county or city roads: SR 11 south section (S), SR 55 (N), SR 61 (N), SR 63 south section (N), SR 69 (S), SR 159 middle section (S), SR 257 (N and S), SR 641, SR 933. SR 650 ends at a gypsum plant and SR 166 dead ends at the Ohio River. Then there are the state roads that serve state parks: SR 143, SR 269, SR 524, SR 727, etc.

[tdindy88]

I probably should have said U.S. AND state highways on that SR 332 remark.

[silverback1065]

SR 166 is one of the weirdest state routes IN has.

[PurdueBill]

Deadly accident at IN 25 work site near Delphi yesterday.  Condolences to the family.