Signs With Design Errors

[national highway 1]

The A28 shield should be aligned up against the up arrow, between the two lines of text.

[jakeroot]

On SR 525 northbound approaching SR 99 in Mukilteo.

I drive by that often, and it has always bothered me, but I'm not sure why.  Could you elaborate?

My guess is that on the Everett sign, the exit arrow should be below Everett or the sign should've been wider so that the exit arrow is to the right of all text.  As I see it, the BGS looks like a pull-through with an arrow crammed inside.

I didn't notice that one.

My main concern was with the highway numbers, which are a bit too big and badly spaced inside the shield.

Which I don't notice, because that seems to be the common layout for SR 99, although these are a little large, but at least they aren't the tiny ones you see down south.  I'm not a fan of the way the signs are laid out.  The Shields don't match position, and I'd make the right sign wider, and put the arrow on the end, and replace the Arrow on the Left Sign with "Right at Signal", since there is no exit to speak of.

I think the sign is fine, but if we were to change the sign, I would make it look more like this (below). I dumped a second through arrow because the left through lane does not go to 99 South:

We do have a tendency to shove them wherever they (kind of) fit.

Since this thread, I've been paying attention to where WSDOT seems to put those stubby arrows. It seems they do, quite often, just throw them inside the sign wherever they'll fit. Which to me is fine, as long as the exit isn't mandatory, in which case, the arrow should be placed relatively as central as possible to the lane it represents (so something like this bothers me).

[thenetwork]

Since this thread, I've been paying attention to where WSDOT seems to put those stubby arrows. It seems they do, quite often, just throw them inside the sign wherever they'll fit. Which to me is fine, as long as the exit isn't mandatory, in which case, the arrow should be placed relatively as central as possible to the lane it represents (so something like this bothers me).

The placement of the arrow there is good and aesthetically better than the Everett sign.  It's the arrow itself that sucks on this example.  Definitely the stem is a few inches too short.

[formulanone]

Looking through some old pics (November 2011) revealed some backwards lower-case L's on these two BGSs, located a stone's throw south of the Broward/Miami-Dade county line on I-95:


Int95nMM19-UpcomingExitsFL858FL824FL820 by formulanone, on Flickr


Int95nMM19-Exit18signFL858withBackwardsLs by formulanone, on Flickr

Looks like these signs are consigned to history, after having a peek at Street View.

[national highway 1]

The 189 text is too small for the shield and is off-center

US 287 shields in 2dus shields and with text that is too small.

[noelbotevera]

US 287 is also not a business route - that is mainline 287.

[hbelkins]

North Carolina used to have gobs of 3dUS signs like that. Not very many remain, but here are a few along US 158 and there used to be some near Boone as well.

[national highway 1]

Just an afterthought.

[national highway 1]

The Y in Sidney

[thenetwork]

Just an afterthought.

Reminds me of the "homemade modification" of another BGS in L.A.:  https://kentringer.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/richard_ankrom.jpg

[Ned Weasel]

Just an afterthought.

Reminds me of the "homemade modification" of another BGS in L.A.:  https://kentringer.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/richard_ankrom.jpg

Except Richard Ankrom actually went through the trouble of making it look good.

[admtrap]

It's not _quite_ Craig County, but found a fun little gem heading up to Mariposa, CA on SR 49 in last week.  For a bonus - the exact same error occurs on both direction of the road.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3442832,-119.7117712,3a,15y,326.44h,79.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srtlFp2eNayUkVJP8lmROGQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


If you take SR 140 down instead, you get an even more fun one (but only westbound)

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3283125,-120.249971,3a,15y,273.06h,84.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stDoFRlmPyToRsjASf3whWA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656



Yes, there are GMV artifacts, but the lower case 'e' there in Le Grand is not an artifact - it really is that dinky.

[cl94]

As we all know, both the City and Town of Tonawanda, NY are infamous for their signs and signals, but I found something that takes it to a new extreme. Just because it's in a school zone doesn't mean it should be green.

[noelbotevera]

As we all know, both the City and Town of Tonawanda, NY are infamous for their signs and signals, but I found something that takes it to a new extreme. Just because it's in a school zone doesn't mean it should be green.

It's in Buffalo.

[cl94]

As we all know, both the City and Town of Tonawanda, NY are infamous for their signs and signals, but I found something that takes it to a new extreme. Just because it's in a school zone doesn't mean it should be green.

It's in Buffalo.

Google is incorrect. Town of Tonawanda. It's in front of the Tonawanda pool/fitness center in the center of the town. Heck, Google says I'm in Buffalo where I live and I'm a few miles from the city line.

[Zeffy]

Google is incorrect. Town of Tonawanda. It's in front of the Tonawanda pool/fitness center in the center of the town. Heck, Google says I'm in Buffalo where I live and I'm a few miles from the city line.

Google identifies a lot of places near Trenton (Ewing, Hamilton) as Trenton itself plenty of times. I think it may be based on the metro area which is named after the city itself.

[odditude]

Google is incorrect. Town of Tonawanda. It's in front of the Tonawanda pool/fitness center in the center of the town. Heck, Google says I'm in Buffalo where I live and I'm a few miles from the city line.

Google identifies a lot of places near Trenton (Ewing, Hamilton) as Trenton itself plenty of times. I think it may be based on the metro area which is named after the city itself.

it could be based on ZIP code, as well.

[roadman]

Just an afterthought.

Reminds me of the "homemade modification" of another BGS in L.A.:  https://kentringer.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/richard_ankrom.jpg

Except Richard Ankrom actually went through the trouble of making it look good.

And, as I recall the story, nobody from Caltrans even noticed Mr. Ankron's handiwork until somebody complemented them on the addition to the BGS a couple of months later.

[cl94]

This one is in Buffalo. This one also has no excuse for being green.

[mrsman]

Just an afterthought.

On doing some research on GSV, this is very recent indeed.

Check out this picture from July 2014:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0242114,-118.17232,3a,75y,348.52h,83.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfk2JwlJq3KIADgETvkCbhQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

It seems like it was added to account for a construction project that separates the left two lanes from the rest just after the ramp to CA 60.  So you really need to be in the 3rd lane at that point to access 3rd street and not simply merge right at a later point.

[jbnv]

Let's STREEEEEETCHHH it to make it fit better.

[Stratuscaster]

Let's STREEEEEETCHHH it to make it fit better.

I swear Dupage County Illinois does this quite a bit.

Make the text box, then resize the box to fit the sign, but they actually stretch the text rather than resize it.

(They also can't seem to properly deal with lower-case descenders, but that's another rant.)

[SignGeek101]

https://goo.gl/maps/ZZHBj

Lowercase where a capital should be. oOps.

[SignGeek101]

https://goo.gl/maps/Pa72eXZkesz

The '25' shield on the left is missing something, compared with the 440 shield on the right.

[odditude]

https://goo.gl/maps/Pa72eXZkesz

The '25' shield on the left is missing something, compared with the 440 shield on the right.

no fleur-de-lis for you!