Signs With Design Errors

[vtk]

Two design errors that are so severe, they are borderline information errors. Sorry no pics, but the first one is on GSV:
2. South side of Columbus, I-270 WB approaching I-71. Advance guide signs for I-71 display absolutely no indication that the right two lanes must exit. (Just in the last 24 hours, this part of 270 became four lanes WB, versus two before. The signs in question are new installs for this project, but they appear to be Clearviewized carbon copies of the old signs, complete with centered exit tabs.)

Passed through there today, they finally put up a portable message sign that no one reads, so at least they're aware of a problem.

Those portables appeared Friday or Saturday I think – just in time for the All Star Game.

[hbelkins]

^ Ah yes, the infamous bubble shield variant of the Interstate shield.

Less common is the opposite--a squished 3DI shield for a 2DI.  It happens....Steve has a pic I got of one a few years back on his I-280 Ohio page.

If only they'd started with a bubble shield and compressed it back, it'd be fine.  But they started with a proper 3DI shield and compressed it.  Ugh!

Quite a few of those in the OKC area, too.

A normal 2di marker, when stretched, becomes a bubble shield.

What most consider a normal 3di marker, when compressed, becomes what you see above.

I actually prefer the bubble shield to the alternative.

[SignGeek101]

Although I do prefer the FHWA arrows, it is technically incorrect to use them here:

http://goo.gl/maps/dYBxA

Ontario uses the "Ontario arrow" which I personally don't really like.

[jakeroot]

WSDOT doesn't usually pull this kind of shit:

[steviep24]

Ooops!

[freebrickproductions]

Borderless "No Left Turn" sign at a hospital here in Huntsville. I'm not sure if this counts as a "design error" or not:
Borderless No Left Turn Sign by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

[thenetwork]

Ooops!

What's the OOPS on this one? (Never mind..I see the different spelling on both signs)  However, there are two ways this word is commonly spelled: 

- PHILLIPS -- As in Phillips 66
- PHILIPS -- As in Philips/Magnavox

So in this case, which of the two signs is wrong?

[steviep24]

Ooops!

What's the OOPS on this one? (Never mind..I see the different spelling on both signs)  However, there are two ways this word is commonly spelled: 

- PHILLIPS -- As in Phillips 66
- PHILIPS -- As in Philips/Magnavox

So in this case, which of the two signs is wrong?

In this case the sign with one L has the mistake. A smaller sign near the end of the off ramp also had the error. The signs were only a few months old.

I'll add that this is on NY 104 EB in Webster, NY. It cost NYSDOT $2000 to replace the signs due to their mistake.

[hbelkins]

I'll add that this is on NY 104 EB in Webster, NY. It cost NYSDOT $2000 to replace the signs due to their mistake.

Two words: demountable copy.

Or one word: greenout.

[jakeroot]

I'll add that this is on NY 104 EB in Webster, NY. It cost NYSDOT $2000 to replace the signs due to their mistake.

Two words: demountable copy.

Or one word: greenout.

I think any additional letters on the first sign would have put the text against the border.

[kphoger]

Borderless "No Left Turn" sign at a hospital here in Huntsville. I'm not sure if this counts as a "design error" or not:
Borderless No Left Turn Sign by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

Is that a city sign or a private installation?

[freebrickproductions]

Borderless "No Left Turn" sign at a hospital here in Huntsville. I'm not sure if this counts as a "design error" or not:
Borderless No Left Turn Sign by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

Is that a city sign or a private installation?

Private install as far as I'm aware.

[KEK Inc.]

WSDOT doesn't usually pull this kind of shit:

Hopefully that sign will be scrapped once the construction is finished.

[kphoger]

Borderless "No Left Turn" sign at a hospital here in Huntsville. I'm not sure if this counts as a "design error" or not:
Borderless No Left Turn Sign by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

Is that a city sign or a private installation?

Private install as far as I'm aware.

Well, I'm not going to knock a sign too hard when it's a homemade job.

[jakeroot]

WSDOT doesn't usually pull this kind of shit:

Hopefully that sign will be scrapped once the construction is finished.

God help us if it isn't.

[KEK Inc.]

 That said SW division isn't impressing me with their new signs.


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[jakeroot]

That said SW division isn't impressing me with their new signs.

I like that the signs with smaller exit tabs (versus full-width exit tabs) have a square corner in the area of the sign with the tab.

[KEK Inc.]

That said SW division isn't impressing me with their new signs.

I like that the signs with smaller exit tabs (versus full-width exit tabs) have a square corner in the area of the sign with the tab.

I'm totally fine with the exit tabs that aren't full-width.  I'm talking about the Salmon Creek project where they printed all of the signs a bit way too small.

[hbelkins]

I think any additional letters on the first sign would have put the text against the border.

Make the text a little smaller, or adjust the letter and word spacing.

I used to be a newspaper editor. I did all kinds of tricks to get headlines to fit.

[roadfro]

Borderless "No Left Turn" sign at a hospital here in Huntsville. I'm not sure if this counts as a "design error" or not:
Borderless No Left Turn Sign by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

Is that a city sign or a private installation?

Private install as far as I'm aware.

Well, I'm not going to knock a sign too hard when it's a homemade job.

I would, if you're dealing with a standard sign that doesn't need a custom design.

[busman_49]

Around 10-12 years ago, this interchange underwent major construction.  That's probably the only good explanation for the downward arrow to be greened-out, then later replaced with this ugliness:
P1130455 by Ryan busman_49, on Flickr

[TEG24601]

Am I the only person who finds most every sign CalTrans makes to be in error?

[roadman]

Am I the only person who finds most every sign CalTrans makes to be in error?

Every sign CalTrans has made that has an exit number on it is in error.

[myosh_tino]

Am I the only person who finds most every sign CalTrans makes to be in error?

Every sign CalTrans has made that has an exit number on it is in error.

Then perhaps Caltrans should just abandon exit numbering all together then! 

Let's face it, the majority of Californians navigate by street name and highway number.  Exit numbers are pretty useless IMO.

[jakeroot]

Am I the only person who finds most every sign CalTrans makes to be in error?

Errors are relative, of course. Are you saying CalTrans is producing an abundance of poor signs relative to their own guidelines? Or federal guidelines?