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Was TX 352 once a part of US 80?

Started by bugo, July 19, 2012, 04:22:36 AM

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bugo



txstateends

None of the maps I've ever seen show US 80 along the route where TX 352 is; the only other naming it has had east of Second Avenue (that I've seen) is TX 183.
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bugo

Another related US 80 question: Was the US 80 Business route along Ft Worth Ave and the Commerce Street Viaduct a true business route, or was it a shortcut?  Looking at old maps, it looks like mainline US 80 went through a more developed area and that US 80B was the quickest way.

Road Hog

If you follow Scyene Road (which is TX 352 through Mesquite) on Google Maps east to the end of the road, you see an old roadway in Street View that peters out alongside the railroad tracks.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=State+352+TX&hl=en&ll=32.7543,-96.519629&spn=0.002328,0.004823&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.631106,79.013672&t=h&hnear=Texas+352,+Dallas,+Texas&z=18&layer=c&cbll=32.7543,-96.519629&panoid=BE6YNmTy6koCvUDPtwJOkw&cbp=12,126.33,,0,0

Follow the railroad tracks east through the river bottoms to Forney in satellite view, and you can sporadically see traces of what looks like an old roadway along a tree line. So I'd say it was possible this was the roadway between Mesquite and Forney at one time, but it also might've predated the U.S. system.

FM 740 through Forney is also labeled in Google Maps as "Old U.S. 80" but that was before the freeway was built.

Brian556

The road being discribed is indeed the "Old Road" between Mesquite and Forney. On the local history forum, if memory serves me correctly, it said that US 80 was built on the current alignment in 1930. The old was left open for local use until the 70's. So, it looks like it may have been US 80 for a few years. US 80 was also TX 15.

After US 80 moved to the current alignment, what is now TX 352 was TX 183 up until 1943.




Notice the concrete pavement on the east end of this road in Forney.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=State+352+TX&hl=en&ll=32.750916,-96.476522&spn=0.003018,0.006266&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.631106,79.013672&t=h&hnear=Texas+352,+Dallas,+Texas&layer=c&cbll=32.750916,-96.476522&panoid=G7Ed2TZnKpa-X8Bi3SYkew&cbp=12,302.12,,0,0&z=18

wtd67

The old road between Mesquite and Forney is mentioned in the Fort Worth Architecture Forum, http://www.fortwortharchitecture.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3820.  The information is about halfway down the post.  They have a picture of the bridge (what's left) over the East Fork Trinity River.

Google Maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=32.750872,-96.509135&spn=0.000835,0.0012&t=h&z=20

Bing Maps Birds Eye view is better:
http://binged.it/PmhVfq

Just south of the old highway bridge is a concrete supports for the old Interurban Railway bridge.

austrini

Scyene Road was built around 1912 out to the community of Scyene (which was how the original inhabitants misspelled the name of the Seine River in Paris). In the Dallas Morning News archives from 11/22/1928 there is an article about rerouting Scyene along a new alignment. Scyene Road/aka East Pike was SH 15 at the time, and US 80 was routed directly over SH 15.
The new alignment is listed as opened 8/8/1936 and was widened in 1939 because of traffic due to the East Texas oil boom. /newspapertrolling/

I walked out to the river on the railroad tracks to see the old bridge supports once. It was muddy.
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