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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2200 on: October 22, 2022, 11:21:09 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/LMvdK8GhYfZkSNjD8
Is IL in the business of using blue pentagon shield like the one on the signal pole in GSV above?
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2201 on: October 23, 2022, 12:29:27 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/LMvdK8GhYfZkSNjD8
Is IL in the business of using blue pentagon shield like the one on the signal pole in GSV above?

Depends on the county. Cook County started to implement this about 15 years ago, but then, due to budget reasons, suddenly halted this. In the current state, the signage in Cook County is inconsistent to best describe it. Other counties, however, tend to have much more consistent signage, DuPage County for example. Downstate, it can vary, but my observation has been that it's fairly consistent on county roads.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2202 on: October 24, 2022, 08:56:30 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/LMvdK8GhYfZkSNjD8
Is IL in the business of using blue pentagon shield like the one on the signal pole in GSV above?

Depends on the county. Cook County started to implement this about 15 years ago, but then, due to budget reasons, suddenly halted this. In the current state, the signage in Cook County is inconsistent to best describe it. Other counties, however, tend to have much more consistent signage, DuPage County for example. Downstate, it can vary, but my observation has been that it's fairly consistent on county roads.

Most counties I've been to especially in Northern Illinois do this. In central IL I've seen them in Champaign, McLean county and Woodford county. Southern IL I've only seen them in St Clair County and Clinton County.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2203 on: October 24, 2022, 12:15:04 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/LMvdK8GhYfZkSNjD8
Is IL in the business of using blue pentagon shield like the one on the signal pole in GSV above?

Depends on the county. Cook County started to implement this about 15 years ago, but then, due to budget reasons, suddenly halted this. In the current state, the signage in Cook County is inconsistent to best describe it. Other counties, however, tend to have much more consistent signage, DuPage County for example. Downstate, it can vary, but my observation has been that it's fairly consistent on county roads.

Most counties I've been to especially in Northern Illinois do this. In central IL I've seen them in Champaign, McLean county and Woodford county. Southern IL I've only seen them in St Clair County and Clinton County.

I've seen them posted somewhat regularly in both LaSalle and Iroquois Counties; they aren't posted to the prevalence of having arrow signs, but generally at intersections with county roads there's a sign once you pull on.

Lake County is hardcore with it; they even have little banner signs below their blue pentagonal signs saying the name of the road.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2204 on: October 24, 2022, 07:32:03 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/LMvdK8GhYfZkSNjD8
Is IL in the business of using blue pentagon shield like the one on the signal pole in GSV above?

Depends on the county. Cook County started to implement this about 15 years ago, but then, due to budget reasons, suddenly halted this. In the current state, the signage in Cook County is inconsistent to best describe it. Other counties, however, tend to have much more consistent signage, DuPage County for example. Downstate, it can vary, but my observation has been that it's fairly consistent on county roads.

Most counties I've been to especially in Northern Illinois do this. In central IL I've seen them in Champaign, McLean county and Woodford county. Southern IL I've only seen them in St Clair County and Clinton County.

I've seen them posted somewhat regularly in both LaSalle and Iroquois Counties; they aren't posted to the prevalence of having arrow signs, but generally at intersections with county roads there's a sign once you pull on.

Lake County is hardcore with it; they even have little banner signs below their blue pentagonal signs saying the name of the road.
About a year or 2 ago, Kendall County finally signed it's county roads with the blue pentagons.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2205 on: October 24, 2022, 07:39:38 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/gdDJm61JxgCCS5328

Does this gate in the median open up during sporting events at Soldier Field? Iím noticing the permissive tower signal head going SB on US 41 here?

https://goo.gl/maps/S5cpWcudEFBrFuBX6
Not to mention this guide sign.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2206 on: October 24, 2022, 07:59:39 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/gdDJm61JxgCCS5328

Does this gate in the median open up during sporting events at Soldier Field? Iím noticing the permissive tower signal head going SB on US 41 here?

https://goo.gl/maps/S5cpWcudEFBrFuBX6
Not to mention this guide sign.

The stoplight in the SB lanes and the guide sign certainly do suggest that it does open, or at least has in the past, but I've never personally seen it open.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2207 on: October 25, 2022, 02:58:32 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/gdDJm61JxgCCS5328

Does this gate in the median open up during sporting events at Soldier Field? Iím noticing the permissive tower signal head going SB on US 41 here?

https://goo.gl/maps/S5cpWcudEFBrFuBX6
Not to mention this guide sign.

At some point I think it did, but traffic was probably more abysmal then it is now. So Waldron is apparently a NB entrance/exit only during Soldier Field events. Like NWI, I've never seen it open for SB lanes but I'm sure 20-30 years ago it was.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2209 on: October 26, 2022, 10:59:03 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/LMvdK8GhYfZkSNjD8
Is IL in the business of using blue pentagon shield like the one on the signal pole in GSV above?

See the Illinois stuff I added to the thread in General Highway Talk about the different states' use of the county pentagons:

Illinois counties that use the blue pentagon include Winnebago, McHenry, Lake, DuPage, Kane (inconsistently), DeKalb (starting recently), Kendall (starting last year), Kankakee, Iroquois, Livingston, McLean, Logan, Macon, McDonough, Knox, Peoria, Woodford, LaSalle, Bureau, Rock Island (who uses letters instead of numbers like Wisconsin), Henry, St. Clair, Sangamon, Champaign, Vermilion, Piatt, Douglas, Coles, Edgar, Fayette, Effingham, Clinton, Christian, Cumberland, Mason, Menard and DeWitt.  See Bill Burmaster's page.

(Clay County uses the white square like some places in Minnesota.)
Edit: Forgot to mention Warren, and forgot to mention Cook (sporadically).

To add, Will County will start putting up pentagons all over its county highways later this fall, likely carrying forward into spring.  Kendall County put pentagons up starting around 2019.  DeKalb is another county that started using them fairly recently, but the numerals are written in Helvetica.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2210 on: December 10, 2022, 10:10:05 PM »

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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2211 on: December 11, 2022, 09:35:58 AM »

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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2212 on: December 12, 2022, 12:43:55 AM »

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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2213 on: December 12, 2022, 08:20:46 AM »

Is Chicago is now putting speed cameras on ramps?  Note the photo enforced plaques for the ramp advisory speeds for a ramp off NB Mannheim near O'Hare.

This is the only ramp I've seen in the area that claims to enforce advisory speeds. I might stop by over there and see if I can even find a camera. I'm pretty sure I haven't driven that ramp before so I don't know why they felt the need to add that.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2214 on: December 13, 2022, 02:00:25 PM »

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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2215 on: December 13, 2022, 06:57:21 PM »


Is Chicago is now putting speed cameras on ramps?  Note the photo enforced plaques for the ramp advisory speeds for a ramp off NB Mannheim near O'Hare.

Doesn't seem legal.

I agree.  As I figure it, the speed limit on that ramp is 50 mph.
Technically, that is still Airport property and under their jurisdiction. That sign has been up for about a year. I have never heard of anyone getting a ticket from there. But there are speed cameras throughout the city.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2216 on: December 13, 2022, 07:05:37 PM »

What I mean is that exceeding the number on a W13-3 (Advisory Ramp Speed) sign isn't illegal.  The last R2-1 (Speed Limit) regulatory sign before that point says 50.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2217 on: December 14, 2022, 09:58:01 AM »

After 9 years, several years late and over budget, the Circle interchange reconstruction will be coming to a close very soon.

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/jane-byrne-interchange-project-finally-coming-to-an-end-over-budget-and-years-behind-schedule/

I just drove through it yesterday for work and I still feel like there's a handful of things left to do. It didn't feel "complete" to me. But maybe that's just simple punch list stuff.

Some of the BGS also leave a lot to be desired.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2218 on: December 14, 2022, 01:26:08 PM »

Are the Controls for the Freeways still Wisconsin, Indiana, and West Suburbs?

That is the IDOT way, of course
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2219 on: December 14, 2022, 02:16:08 PM »

After 9 years, several years late and over budget, the Circle interchange reconstruction will be coming to a close very soon.

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/jane-byrne-interchange-project-finally-coming-to-an-end-over-budget-and-years-behind-schedule/

I just drove through it yesterday for work and I still feel like there's a handful of things left to do. It didn't feel "complete" to me. But maybe that's just simple punch list stuff.

Some of the BGS also leave a lot to be desired.

They still have work to do north of it along the Kennedy between 290/Congress and Lake St. Walking over it the last few months, the exit lanes are still being built and I think Adams St bridge was still closed as last check
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2220 on: December 14, 2022, 02:57:55 PM »

Are the Controls for the Freeways still Wisconsin, Indiana, and West Suburbs?

That is the IDOT way, of course

I think so. Those are likely never going to change.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2221 on: December 14, 2022, 06:59:22 PM »

After 9 years, several years late and over budget, the Circle interchange reconstruction will be coming to a close very soon.

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/jane-byrne-interchange-project-finally-coming-to-an-end-over-budget-and-years-behind-schedule/

I just drove through it yesterday for work and I still feel like there's a handful of things left to do. It didn't feel "complete" to me. But maybe that's just simple punch list stuff.

Some of the BGS also leave a lot to be desired.

They still have work to do north of it along the Kennedy between 290/Congress and Lake St. Walking over it the last few months, the exit lanes are still being built and I think Adams St bridge was still closed as last check

I live literally overlooking the interchange between Adams and Jackson, so I've been keeping a pretty close eye on the construction since I moved in ~18 months ago.  As of ~2 weeks ago, the bridges were reopened, along with the exit ramps (but not the entrance ramps).  As of this morning, all construction work is complete both north and south of the interchange (they did the last bit of pavement grooving this morning). South of the interchange, I believe all they need to do is striping and signage work (and landscaping/electrical in the spring, but that's not import).  North of the interchange, they still need to haul away the concrete barriers and do a little other cleanup, but I'm guessing that will all be done by tomorrow.  Tonight's rainy, so no final configurations tonight or the paint would wash away, but I'm predicting southbound (including ramps) gets it's final configuration tomorrow night and northbound the night after that.

Are the Controls for the Freeways still Wisconsin, Indiana, and West Suburbs?

That is the IDOT way, of course

I think so. Those are likely never going to change.

Wisconsin and Indiana still are in use on the new signs, but at the interchange "West Suburbs" control has been replaced with "Aurora"
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2222 on: December 14, 2022, 08:50:26 PM »

After 9 years, several years late and over budget, the Circle interchange reconstruction will be coming to a close very soon.

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/jane-byrne-interchange-project-finally-coming-to-an-end-over-budget-and-years-behind-schedule/

I just drove through it yesterday for work and I still feel like there's a handful of things left to do. It didn't feel "complete" to me. But maybe that's just simple punch list stuff.

Some of the BGS also leave a lot to be desired.

They still have work to do north of it along the Kennedy between 290/Congress and Lake St. Walking over it the last few months, the exit lanes are still being built and I think Adams St bridge was still closed as last check

I live literally overlooking the interchange between Adams and Jackson, so I've been keeping a pretty close eye on the construction since I moved in ~18 months ago.  As of ~2 weeks ago, the bridges were reopened, along with the exit ramps (but not the entrance ramps).  As of this morning, all construction work is complete both north and south of the interchange (they did the last bit of pavement grooving this morning). South of the interchange, I believe all they need to do is striping and signage work (and landscaping/electrical in the spring, but that's not import).  North of the interchange, they still need to haul away the concrete barriers and do a little other cleanup, but I'm guessing that will all be done by tomorrow.  Tonight's rainy, so no final configurations tonight or the paint would wash away, but I'm predicting southbound (including ramps) gets it's final configuration tomorrow night and northbound the night after that.

Are the Controls for the Freeways still Wisconsin, Indiana, and West Suburbs?

That is the IDOT way, of course

I think so. Those are likely never going to change.

Wisconsin and Indiana still are in use on the new signs, but at the interchange "West Suburbs" control has been replaced with "Aurora"

They were still putting rebar and pouring concrete up by Washington St for the median between the exit lanes/thru traffic unless they finish all that in 5 days.  :hmmm:
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2223 on: December 14, 2022, 09:53:08 PM »

They were still putting rebar and pouring concrete up by Washington St for the median between the exit lanes/thru traffic unless they finish all that in 5 days.  :hmmm:

I was out of town last week, but I saw them stripping the forms on the end of that barrier up by Washington on Saturday, so they presumably poured that on Friday.  I've found it interesting how quickly many individual pieces of the project go given how slowly the whole thing has gone.  (I will say over the past couple months they've been working a bunch of overtime and doing a good bit of Saturday work, I think so they would be able to reopen things before the end of the year
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2224 on: December 14, 2022, 11:45:40 PM »

"Are the Controls for the Freeways still Wisconsin, Indiana, and West Suburbs?"

Now Aurora instead of 'west burbs'. By the way it's the 2nd largest city in IL, near 200k people. Elgin should be used instead of Rockford on 290 at 294 westbound.
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