Interesting stuff

[agentsteel53]

Does this one in Dallas count?

that's different.  you exit the road on the left, but you are turning right.  the Delaware and Massachusetts examples have you turning left as you go around the curve.

[agentsteel53]

US 58 runs 508 miles in Virginia. That's gotta be the longest in any Eastern state.

depending on your definition of "eastern": US-64 in North Carolina is 604, and US-98 in Florida is 659.

[NE2]

Hell, US 1 in Florida is 547 (per Wikipedia). Florida's big.

[vtk]

When Columbus's I-270 opened completely, NMSL was in effect, so it took exactly one hour to drive one 55-mile lap around the city.

[pianocello]

If you do about 19 over, you'll make it around I-275 in Cincy in exactly an hour.

(Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.)

[Roadsguy]

does anyone know of another?

I somehow found myself browsing the expressway system of Portland.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.51688,-122.661222&spn=0.001092,0.002642&t=k&z=19

[bugo]

When Columbus's I-270 opened completely, NMSL was in effect, so it took exactly one hour to drive one 55-mile lap around the city.

It takes 3 hours almost to the minute to drive from my apartment in Tulsa to the family home in Mena, AR if you do the speed limit.  I made it in 2 hr 25 minutes one time.

[mcdonaat]

Interesting fact - Louisiana's route descriptions can be lengthy. This route is about 5 miles long.

[vtk]

I wonder which would be bigger: the ASCII encoding of the above route definition, or a KML file...

[mcdonaat]

I wonder which would be bigger: the ASCII encoding of the above route definition, or a KML file...

Probably the IQ of anyone who can understand that. Confuses the heck out of me.

[NE2]

Property descriptions are much worse.

[mcdonaat]

Property descriptions are much worse.

How about these two routes? Very, VERY different routes.

[NE2]

Those descriptions are both the same (modulo typos) and both nonsense. Every point in Township 7 North is north of every point in Township 6 North.

At least Route 6 did cut across the corner of S4T6NR6E, where LA 3037 now ends. But the other end of LA 3037 in S11T6NR6E, and is east, not south. And Peachland Lane is off to the south, nowhere near any S1.

The 1937 county map shows that they were in fact the same (and so was Route 1009, which has almost the same fucked-up description). The route on the map of course doesn't match the legal description at all, except for beginning at Route 116 (Black River Road) and following Peachland Lane.

Route 1009. Beginning at a point on Route No. 116 Section 1, Township 7 North Range 6 East, running in a northerly direction to a point of intersection Route No. 6, in Section 4 Township 6 North Range 6 east.

[mcdonaat]

Those descriptions are both the same (modulo typos) and both nonsense. Every point in Township 7 North is north of every point in Township 6 North.

At least Route 6 did cut across the corner of S4T6NR6E, where LA 3037 now ends. But the other end of LA 3037 in S11T6NR6E, and is east, not south. And Peachland Lane is off to the south, nowhere near any S1.

The 1937 county map shows that they were in fact the same (and so was Route 1009, which has almost the same fucked-up description). The route on the map of course doesn't match the legal description at all, except for beginning at Route 116 (Black River Road) and following Peachland Lane.

Route 1009. Beginning at a point on Route No. 116 Section 1, Township 7 North Range 6 East, running in a northerly direction to a point of intersection Route No. 6, in Section 4 Township 6 North Range 6 east.

Where'd you get that photo? My 1946 maps show something similar, I believe...

Anyways, SR 116/297 is designated as such because SR 297 is the number for the completed portions, and SR 116 is the general Marksville-Jonesville Highway (which actually was never finished). It seems that 1009/1118/1119 were designated as the same road because the engineers in the district sent the same proposal, but were unaware.

SR 18 met SR 49 in the middle of nowhere, and SR 18 south of Jonesville goes nowhere but one small community. Makes you wonder if these routes were truly important enough to be designated as the "original 98" routes.

[NE2]

1937 county map

Where'd you get that photo?

Linked above...

Incidentally, Florida also had this sort of duplicate routes before the 1945 renumbering, though not as badly as Louisiana.

[roadman65]

I was noticing that the NB Palisades Parkway was closed to all traffic the day the google car captured the Parkway at Exit 19 inside Bear Mountain State Park.  If you take the virtual drive NB along the PIP at Exit 19 you will see the road barricaded directing the PIP and US 6 traffic onto Seven Lakes Drive.  If you look at the google map, you will see no blue line on the PIP/ US 6 concurrency north of Exit 19 because of it.

I have no idea why the road was closed, but it is very interesting how it affected the google street view.

[Alps]

In terms of Interesting stuff, a triplex of 4-digit routes that are completely concurrent on the same little farm road loop is up there.

[mcdonaat]

Not only that, but look just to the northeast, and you'll see SR 1009/1118/1119 meeting SR 116/297, which technically ended at SR 6-D. Follow SR 18 north to SR 295-D (I think), which was actually completed in 1958 as a LA highway.

[The High Plains Traveler]

More than anything, I'm surprised that Louisiana has township/section/range coordinates. I know Florida does and Texas doesn't, and I'm surprised that U.S. land survey system made it to Louisiana.

[mcdonaat]

More than anything, I'm surprised that Louisiana has township/section/range coordinates. I know Florida does and Texas doesn't, and I'm surprised that U.S. land survey system made it to Louisiana.

I never knew what they were until recently. The descriptions for SR 1000+ are way more exact than the original 98 routes, which usually referred to the state taking over Road ____ in ______ Parish.

[empirestate]

More than anything, I'm surprised that Louisiana has township/section/range coordinates. I know Florida does and Texas doesn't, and I'm surprised that U.S. land survey system made it to Louisiana.

They do in some parts of the state, but much of it is still under the old French arpent system.

I wish there was a comprehensive web tool or GIS dataset for viewing the different land survey systems across the U.S. in one place. Not only the PLSS/rectangular survey, but the Louisiana arpents, Spanish and Mexican ranchos and grants in CA and elsewhere, Hawaiian ahupua'a, and so forth. Hopefully the USGS will continue to collect this information and eventually add it as a layer in US Topo.

[doogie1303]

Also a thing to note that Rhode Island has no 3 digit US routes within its borders.

I was thinking about US 395 in CA as it really does transit on its top segment and another thing about it is the fact that because it enters Nevada in the middle, US 281 has to hold the title of the longest three digit route within a state.  California is longer than Texas if you go north to south as I-5 is longer in mileage in the Golden State than I-35 is in the Lone Star State.   I believe that in the early days when US 395 went all the way to San Diego, if it never entered Nevada, US 395 would be the longest 3 digit to be within one state then.

Officially RI has no 3 digit US routes unless you want count the mistakenly marked RI 403 with a US shield at an interchange in Quonsett, RI. 

[roadman65]

How about this. Google Satellite not only capturing I-190 in Illinois here, but a jet plane flying over the Westbound lanes just south of a parking lot in between I-190 and its parent to the north.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Countryside,+IL&hl=en&ll=41.985095,-87.857924&spn=0.004035,0.009345&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=9.834914,19.138184&oq=coun&t=h&hnear=Countryside,+Cook,+Illinois&z=17

[NE2]

Why don't they time flights to avoid satellite photos?

[vtk]

It's probably not even a satellite picture, but imagery taken from another (higher) airplane.  You just don't get 6in resolution from space (with civilian equipment).  People get needlessly freaked out about what the "satellite" view can see, but in reality someone has to commission an imagery flight for $$$ to get fresh pictures...