Two of the same exit

[empirestate]

I was just noticing how, on I-40 westbound in Wagon Wheel, NM, there are two exits 234. Not 234A and 234B or anything like that, just two separate ramps, both labeled Exit 234.

Any other examples of two exits from the same road with the same number, without any suffixes or ramps splitting or anything like that?

[roadman65]

Back in the days of sequential exit numbering in the State of MD, Exit 3, the cloverleaf for MD 43 had both exits as Exit 3 with no A & B suffixes.  That now is been fixed and has the new mile based numbers and the proper suffixes.

There were two Exit 15's in Newark, NJ on I-280 Westbound.  One for NJ 21 and the other for High Street (now MLK Boulevard).  It was that way for a long time and now is Exits 15 A & B for the split ramps for NJ 21 and Exit 14B is for MLK Boulevard.

The Garden State Parkway uses Exit 130 for both Southbound Ramps to US 1. Although, it is a split ramp, it divides just beyond the gore and is one large sign panel with the two directions split on both sides of a verticle line.
It was that way cause for years there was only a SB Exit for US 1 and the NB ramp was added in the 1990's.  So it was kept as Exit numbers on the GSP are more so used than the street name, route number, or control cities than most major US highways.

[yakra]

Back when Maine had sequential exit numbering, I-95's numbers reset after entering the tolled portion of the Maine Turnpike @ the York toll barrier.

Southbound, you passed Exit 4 for Biddeford, 3 for Kennebunk, 2 for Wells, then went thru the toll barrier & BAM, you're at Exit 4 (York) again. Then there was another Exit 2 for Route 236 in Kittery. (Exits 1 & 3 were/are northbound only.)

Northbound, you passed Exit 1 for Dennett Rd, 2 for Route 236, 3 for US-1 north, 4 for York, then went thru the toll barrier & BAM, exits 2 thru 4 again.
(There was no Exit 1 on the Turnpike)

[NE2]

I know I've seen places where both directions of a split at the end of a route have the same unsuffixed number.

[huskeroadgeek]

I was just noticing how, on I-40 westbound in Wagon Wheel, NM, there are two exits 234. Not 234A and 234B or anything like that, just two separate ramps, both labeled Exit 234.

Any other examples of two exits from the same road with the same number, without any suffixes or ramps splitting or anything like that?

Having been on I-40 westbound there, I remember seeing this now but I'd totally forgotten about it. What's strange is Google Maps doesn't even mark the first Exit 234 ramp, even though it is visible on the satellite view(and of course on Street View). Also, it's interesting that there is a similar setup a little to the east at Exit 243, but in that case, the first ramp is marked Exit 243A.

[roadman65]

Back when Maine had sequential exit numbering, I-95's numbers reset after entering the tolled portion of the Maine Turnpike @ the York toll barrier.

Southbound, you passed Exit 4 for Biddeford, 3 for Kennebunk, 2 for Wells, then went thru the toll barrier & BAM, you're at Exit 4 (York) again. Then there was another Exit 2 for Route 236 in Kittery. (Exits 1 & 3 were/are northbound only.)

Northbound, you passed Exit 1 for Dennett Rd, 2 for Route 236, 3 for US-1 north, 4 for York, then went thru the toll barrier & BAM, exits 2 thru 4 again.
(There was no Exit 1 on the Turnpike)

The same could be said on I-87.  There are three sets of the same numbers for the three different maintained sections of I-87.  You have the Major Deegan Expressway section (owned by NYCDOT) with its own seqential exit numbers, then it converts to the NYS Thruway at the Bronx- Westchester County Line with the exit numbers starting again with 1 and climbing again.  Then I-87 exits the NYS Thruway at Exit 24 where instead of having the numbers continue with 25, for the third and final time it begins with 1 (although its only SB as Exit 1E is for I-90 EB to Albany and Exit 1W is for continuing I-87 SB and I-90 WB) and climbs all the way to Canada.

Maybe with sequential numbering turning into mile based numbers soon, we will see some change, but will the Thruway continue the Major Deegan's scheme to create continuity?  That will be the thing as the Thruway would have to change almost 1000 miles (nearly 500 miles a side times 2) of Mileposts to fit that in.

[empirestate]

Back when Maine had sequential exit numbering, I-95's numbers reset after entering the tolled portion of the Maine Turnpike @ the York toll barrier.

Southbound, you passed Exit 4 for Biddeford, 3 for Kennebunk, 2 for Wells, then went thru the toll barrier & BAM, you're at Exit 4 (York) again. Then there was another Exit 2 for Route 236 in Kittery. (Exits 1 & 3 were/are northbound only.)

Northbound, you passed Exit 1 for Dennett Rd, 2 for Route 236, 3 for US-1 north, 4 for York, then went thru the toll barrier & BAM, exits 2 thru 4 again.
(There was no Exit 1 on the Turnpike)

The same could be said on I-87.  There are three sets of the same numbers for the three different maintained sections of I-87.  You have the Major Deegan Expressway section (owned by NYCDOT) with its own seqential exit numbers, then it converts to the NYS Thruway at the Bronx- Westchester County Line with the exit numbers starting again with 1 and climbing again.  Then I-87 exits the NYS Thruway at Exit 24 where instead of having the numbers continue with 25, for the third and final time it begins with 1 (although its only SB as Exit 1E is for I-90 EB to Albany and Exit 1W is for continuing I-87 SB and I-90 WB) and climbs all the way to Canada.

Maybe with sequential numbering turning into mile based numbers soon, we will see some change, but will the Thruway continue the Major Deegan's scheme to create continuity?  That will be the thing as the Thruway would have to change almost 1000 miles (nearly 500 miles a side times 2) of Mileposts to fit that in.

I should clarify...I'm not thinking of those instances where there are different sets or sequences of exit numbers along one route. I'm thinking of cases where there are actually two exits/ramps at the same location (i.e., in the same interchange) that have the same number, without being distinguished by letter suffixes. Here's a MapQuest link of what I mean:
http://mapq.st/Tai9YK

What's interesting about this example is that the two exits 234 provide access to the same area. Although I could imagine another scenario where two ramps for different directions of an intersecting route are identically numbered, in this instance both of the ramps nominally provide access to the entirety of the area served (limited though that area is).

[roadman65]

What about the Garden State Parkway having its Northbound Exit 140 to US 22 and its southbound Exit 140 to NJ 82 Westbound?  Its in the same interchange, but with different roads with the southbound for US 22 marked as Exit 140A.  That would create the same number twice in one particular interchange.  Now if SB GSP had Exit 140 instead of Exit 140A for US 22 it would be different.

Heck, what about Exit 62 being for World Drive (NB and SB) and FL 417 on I-4 at Celebration, FL?  It was once Exits 24 C for World Drive SB, Exit 24D for World Drive NB (Disney World), and Exit 24E for FL 417.  Now one exit number for three separate exits in one large interchange.

The same for I-4 at FL 536 where now both ramps EB & WB have Exit 67 assigned to what is two exits and back in sequential days of numbering were 26 A & B for both.

[NE2]

Heck, what about Exit 62 being for World Drive (NB and SB) and FL 417 on I-4 at Celebration, FL?  It was once Exits 24 C for World Drive SB, Exit 24D for World Drive NB (Disney World), and Exit 24E for FL 417.  Now one exit number for three separate exits in one large interchange.

The same for I-4 at FL 536 where now both ramps EB & WB have Exit 67 assigned to what is two exits and back in sequential days of numbering were 26 A & B for both.

C/D roads don't count. Next?

[empirestate]

What about the Garden State Parkway having its Northbound Exit 140 to US 22 and its southbound Exit 140 to NJ 82 Westbound?  Its in the same interchange, but with different roads with the southbound for US 22 marked as Exit 140A.  That would create the same number twice in one particular interchange.  Now if SB GSP had Exit 140 instead of Exit 140A for US 22 it would be different.

I must admit it didn't occur to me to specify "in the same direction".

The GSP example is mildly interesting I suppose, but I think we'll find it far too common to warrant its own thread. I immediately thought of Exit 36 of I-81 in Pulaski, NY...and there will be scores more.

Heck, what about Exit 62 being for World Drive (NB and SB) and FL 417 on I-4 at Celebration, FL?  It was once Exits 24 C for World Drive SB, Exit 24D for World Drive NB (Disney World), and Exit 24E for FL 417.  Now one exit number for three separate exits in one large interchange.

The same for I-4 at FL 536 where now both ramps EB & WB have Exit 67 assigned to what is two exits and back in sequential days of numbering were 26 A & B for both.

Still just a single exit from I-4...yes, various ramps split off afterwards, but again, you'll find that so ubiquitous that it's not worth writing about. It is a bit curious, I suppose, that the suffixes were dropped, but as you point out I'm sure that's due to the transition from sequential to distance-based numbering.

Perhaps it's more helpful to think in terms of gores rather than ramps or exits. Imagine you're travelling straight through an area along a freeway, without diverting from it at all. You pass a gore point, in which there is posted a sign reading "Exit 234" (http://goo.gl/maps/Vuq4k). A very short time passes, during which you traverse a negligible distance toward the horizon. You pass another, different gore point, in which there is posted a sign reading "Exit 234" (http://goo.gl/maps/IlwOR).

That's the type of situation I'm thinking of. :-)

[NE2]

I also wouldn't count cases where an exit leaves before a major merge, braids around that merge, and then comes back onto the mainline before splitting for good.

Florida has an example like this, but FDOT assigned two different numbers to the ramps. To get from I-95 north to I-195 east you take exit 4A, merge back onto I-95, and then take exit 4B.

[NE2]

A few examples at the ends of routes:

I-65 south end


I-265 west end


I-680 east end (*on I-80 east*)

[NE2]

I-345 south has two exit 284Cs:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=32.796104,-96.793145&spn=0.008225,0.016512&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.796187,-96.793156&panoid=RGjulWHOtBH2OtAqhEAatg&cbp=12,184.06,,0,-1.29
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=32.788871,-96.792437&spn=0.008262,0.016512&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.78865,-96.792425&panoid=fh_fE02VtvIlfzWt6fCrHg&cbp=12,203.68,,0,-7.6
The second one is probably intended mainly for traffic merging from Spur 366.

I-10 east in Texas has two exit 477s, but the first has no signs, only a number painted on the gore:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=30.302224,-99.548171&spn=0.016896,0.033023&gl=us&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=30.302282,-99.548263&panoid=drrACbnjHbTDSxjTr6pzvw&cbp=12,136.67,,0,3.86
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=30.302279,-99.548256&spn=0.016896,0.033023&gl=us&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=30.302032,-99.547908&panoid=2vdOhFgeUgzuU9t12nwG8g&cbp=12,167.49,,0,16.67

NJ 18 south has two exit 29s, but only on combined signage; the second one (Morganville) has no exit number on its own substandard signs:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=40.360934,-74.292963&spn=0.014977,0.033023&gl=us&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.361004,-74.293026&panoid=fmMhTwrm814DaDbn_vb-EA&cbp=12,176.61,,0,-5.2
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=40.348948,-74.284723&spn=0.01498,0.033023&gl=us&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.348754,-74.28467&panoid=_dHZnxQuVIbtLrqRbbu9_w&cbp=12,110.76,,0,-1.46


There may be cases where a route takes a loop at a cloverleaf.

[roadman65]

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Lake+Buena+Vista,+FL&hl=en&ll=28.368548,-81.512879&spn=0.005117,0.010568&sll=37.6,-95.665&sspn=37.455807,86.572266&oq=lake+bu&t=h&hnear=Lake+Buena+Vista,+Orange,+Florida&z=17&layer=c&cbll=28.368687,-81.512761&panoid=72QBBoa8sJEKdUiT4yl3LA&cbp=12,205.21,,0,0

This has two exits that are signed the same despite the gore in between.

Also, I did mention at first that former I-95 Exit 3 (JFK Highway) did conform to it as it was signed as two Exit 3's.

[NE2]

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Lake+Buena+Vista,+FL&hl=en&ll=28.368548,-81.512879&spn=0.005117,0.010568&sll=37.6,-95.665&sspn=37.455807,86.572266&oq=lake+bu&t=h&hnear=Lake+Buena+Vista,+Orange,+Florida&z=17&layer=c&cbll=28.368687,-81.512761&panoid=72QBBoa8sJEKdUiT4yl3LA&cbp=12,205.21,,0,0

This has two exits that are signed the same despite the gore in between.

C/D roads don't count. Next?

[empirestate]

I also wouldn't count cases where an exit leaves before a major merge, braids around that merge, and then comes back onto the mainline before splitting for good.

Florida has an example like this, but FDOT assigned two different numbers to the ramps. To get from I-95 north to I-195 east you take exit 4A, merge back onto I-95, and then take exit 4B.

Agreed, we can't count it because it's two different numbers. Were they both signed as Exit 4B, however, it would be an interesting variation. The two exits do go to the same place, but not independently of each other: you can use the second without using the first, but you can't use the first without also using the second and still get to the indicated destination.

A few examples at the ends of routes:

That's a different beast, in my view. It's still a single exit point, albeit it one that offers two approximately equal choices instead of one clearly divergent and one through route. You could, for example, have one giant sign showing both options, and the exit number would appear just the once.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Lake+Buena+Vista,+FL&hl=en&ll=28.368548,-81.512879&spn=0.005117,0.010568&sll=37.6,-95.665&sspn=37.455807,86.572266&oq=lake+bu&t=h&hnear=Lake+Buena+Vista,+Orange,+Florida&z=17&layer=c&cbll=28.368687,-81.512761&panoid=72QBBoa8sJEKdUiT4yl3LA&cbp=12,205.21,,0,0

This has two exits that are signed the same despite the gore in between.

Again, that's one exit point with two signs; you could just as easily have a single sign there. But I could imagine a borderline scenario where the split is right at the departure point rather than afterward. Basically, a roadway dividing into three. I've seen that with entrance ramps, but I don't know of a place offhand where there's an exit like that.

Also, I did mention at first that former I-95 Exit 3 (JFK Highway) did conform to it as it was signed as two Exit 3's.

Yes, indeed it would have, under what I'm now thinking should be category 2: two exits, same number, different destinations/directions.

I-345 south has two exit 284Cs:
The second one is probably intended mainly for traffic merging from Spur 366.

I-10 east in Texas has two exit 477s, but the first has no signs, only a number painted on the gore:

...those examples, then, belonging to category 1: two exits, same number, same nominal destination. The I-10 example is fun because the advance sign for the second appears at the gore point for the first.

NJ 18 south has two exit 29s, but only on combined signage; the second one (Morganville) has no exit number on its own substandard signs:

That's an oddity indeed...the advance sign doesn't explicitly say there are two exits, but implies it by mentioning Morganville. You could argue on that basis that the second exit is also Exit 29...or at least that it's part of interchange 29.

[roadman65]

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Lake+Buena+Vista,+FL&hl=en&ll=28.368548,-81.512879&spn=0.005117,0.010568&sll=37.6,-95.665&sspn=37.455807,86.572266&oq=lake+bu&t=h&hnear=Lake+Buena+Vista,+Orange,+Florida&z=17&layer=c&cbll=28.368687,-81.512761&panoid=72QBBoa8sJEKdUiT4yl3LA&cbp=12,205.21,,0,0

This has two exits that are signed the same despite the gore in between.

C/D roads don't count. Next?

From the standpoint of the sign it is not on the collector distributor roadway, but on I-4 itself.  It is the same from that point as I-95 Exit 4B as both are the same ramp there.  Not c/d but they are the same ramp with two signs with the same exit number.  One could argue that in that case with I-4 it could be looked at the same.
Next.

[NE2]

It's an exit to a C/D road. Get out.

[empirestate]

From the standpoint of the sign it is not on the collector distributor roadway, but on I-4 itself.  It is the same from that point as I-95 Exit 4B as both are the same ramp there.  Not c/d but they are the same ramp with two signs with the same exit number.  One could argue that in that case with I-4 it could be looked at the same.
Next.

Yeah, but it's one exit. Check it out, here's the gore point on I-4: http://goo.gl/maps/ysbRD

Here's the next gore point on I-4, it's a different exit number: http://goo.gl/maps/JkzrT

From the C/D, the exit numbers aren't restated (at first I thought maybe that's what you were getting at): http://goo.gl/maps/Dhk8V

So there's only one point on I-4 where you pass exit 67 (and of course a corresponding point in the other direction). Doesn't count, no way, and I oughta know; I invented this game!

I do agree that the I-95 exit 4A-4B example is pretty noteworthy, but it's two different numbers so it doesn't fit this topic either. However, I'd be all for another thread about exits that lead nowhere except right back onto the freeway...

[roadman65]

From the standpoint of the sign it is not on the collector distributor roadway, but on I-4 itself.  It is the same from that point as I-95 Exit 4B as both are the same ramp there.  Not c/d but they are the same ramp with two signs with the same exit number.  One could argue that in that case with I-4 it could be looked at the same.
Next.

Yeah, but it's one exit. Check it out, here's the gore point on I-4: http://goo.gl/maps/ysbRD

Here's the next gore point on I-4, it's a different exit number: http://goo.gl/maps/JkzrT

From the C/D, the exit numbers aren't restated (at first I thought maybe that's what you were getting at): http://goo.gl/maps/Dhk8V

So there's only one point on I-4 where you pass exit 67 (and of course a corresponding point in the other direction). Doesn't count, no way, and I oughta know; I invented this game!

I do agree that the I-95 exit 4A-4B example is pretty noteworthy, but it's two different numbers so it doesn't fit this topic either. However, I'd be all for another thread about exits that lead nowhere except right back onto the freeway...

Oh yeah, I know what you mean.  I think we got lost in here with the duplicate exit thing and just like many forums, someone makes a post that is not related or thinks its related, but not and then a third party converses with the second.

Like I said in my first response, which reminded me of an interchange in MD and two urban ramps close together that are what you mean.  That is the only case I have really seen that so far. 

[formulanone]

Exit 26 on I-95 for Interstate 595 and Davie Boulevard (FL 736) are both just "26". It's kind of a C/D road, but whereas FL 736 is almost immediately after the split from I-95, the I-595 east-west ramps are well over a mile south of this point.





Never thought about it before, but there's no control city/destination for I-595 west (later on, it's "To I-75" or "Turnpike").

[Scott5114]

It's an exit to a C/D road. Get out.

Who died and made you God of C/D Roads?

[NE2]

It's an exit to a C/D road. Get out.

Who died and made you God of C/D Roads?

Robert Moses.

[jp the roadgeek]

On a similar note, how about 2 exit numbers for the same street?  King St., which straddles the state line between Greenwich, CT and Port Chester, NY, has an Exit 30 on one side of the border on the Hutch Parkway.  Cross under King St, and you have Exit 27 on the Merritt Parkway for the same street.

[Perfxion]

I-87, has multi exits with the same number!