Only in this state....

[roadman65]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

[vtk]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

Ohio did it Florida-style once on I-270 from about MM 2 to MM 9.  They're reconstructing it now, again in PCCP, but I don't think they're going to do black lines on the new surface.

[Mergingtraffic]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

Ohio did it Florida-style once on I-270 from about MM 2 to MM 9.  They're reconstructing it now, again in PCCP, but I don't think they're going to do black lines on the new surface.

NY does it on concrete roads.  Interesting tid-bit FL used to have the black line connect to each broken white line during the 80s.  From the 90s on up til today, it's a black broken line just after the white broken one.

[roadman65]

Yeah, I remember it was black-white-black- etc.  Now you see it as black-white-space black-white-space-etc. since the 90s like you say.

I do remember GA did it when I-95 first opened between I-16 and US 17 near Savanah, GA as that road was concrete back in the 70's.  I have not seen GA do it since.

[1995hoo]

The only time you can proceed after stopping on a red light is when you're turning right.

In Kentucky, you can turn left on red if you're turning from a one-way street onto another one-way street.

Pretty sure that's true anywhere.  Logically, it's the same as turning right on a conventional intersection.  As long as you don't cross a lane of on-coming traffic on both your road and the intersecting road, it's usually allowed.

Unfortunately, it's not true everywhere. I know it's illegal in North Carolina and the District of Columbia. I think a few other states ban it too, but I don't recall which ones. The other thread someone linked probably addresses it.

[jeffandnicole]

The only time you can proceed after stopping on a red light is when you're turning right.

In Kentucky, you can turn left on red if you're turning from a one-way street onto another one-way street.

Pretty sure that's true anywhere.  Logically, it's the same as turning right on a conventional intersection.  As long as you don't cross a lane of on-coming traffic on both your road and the intersecting road, it's usually allowed.

Unfortunately, it's not true everywhere. I know it's illegal in North Carolina and the District of Columbia. I think a few other states ban it too, but I don't recall which ones. The other thread someone linked probably addresses it.

I believe 5 states, including NJ, do not allow it.

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

Many states do black/white alternate. NJ has been doing it recently.  Delaware as well...although they do it backwards for some reason - black then white, not white then black.

[thenetwork]

Yeah, I remember it was black-white-black- etc.  Now you see it as black-white-space black-white-space-etc. since the 90s like you say.

I do remember GA did it when I-95 first opened between I-16 and US 17 near Savanah, GA as that road was concrete back in the 70's.  I have not seen GA do it since.

I want to say that Michigan did it (at least on I-75 between Detroit & Toledo) up until the early 70s on their concrete freeways as well. Can anyone confirm/deny???

[kphoger]

4) flashing beacon, means you have the ROW.

Say what?  Hopefully nobody ever puts a flashing beacon near a STOP sign, then.

[silverback1065]

I know these are in other states but, only in Indiana they have lights under most BGS's and they usually don't even work.

[Scott5114]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

Oklahoma does it too.

[hm insulators]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

Some newly-repaved sections of freeway in the Los Angeles area have them.

[Road Hog]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

Oklahoma does it too.

Arkansas experimented with that in the Little Rock area in the 1980s.

I thought it was a good idea in Florida, where the concrete was especially bleached and the center line could be seen up the way in daytime.

[roadman]

I know these are in other states but, only in Indiana they have lights under most BGS's and they usually don't even work.

WIth the exception of the Big Dig (I-90/I-93) system, and some lsolated locations along the MassPike, Massachusetts no longer has any illuminated BGS panels (the last ones - on Route 2 approaching the Hairpin Turn - were replaced with non-illuminated BGS panels in 2007).  And the remaining illuminated BGSes along the MassPike will likely go away when the signs and supports are replaced beginning in 2015.

[Alps]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

NJ Turnpike does not maintain a lot of concrete - Driscoll Bridge is probably the longest stretch. They experimented with a wide black stripe with a narrower white stripe on top, which would be the "borders" you speak of. They found it to be a waste of paint and made it easier for the white to peel away (paint on top of paint). They are now going to the "Florida" version, white followed by black. Travel the Driscoll and you'll see.

[Michael]

Wow, this thread really blew up!

As for the FYA, I've never seen one in person, although I can think of quite a few local intersections that could use one.  What would make a left turn with one any different then turning left at a flashing yellow ball or solid green ball?  You don't automatically assume that a flashing yellow ball or solid green ball mean that the opposing direction has a flashing (or steady) red ball.  Left turns are supposed to yield to oncoming through traffic, so how does an arrow change that?  To me it says "turn after yielding to oncoming traffic".  FYI, we already have a thread on the FYA here.



The NY Thruway uses the "line-black" method of striping the PCC surface between Rochester and Canandaigua:


The new PCC section between Weedsport and Baldwinsville has a portion of the PCC ground out instead of using black paint:


While I was looking for the previous two pictures, I came across a PCC section I was unaware of near Buffalo:

Photo Credits: Gribblenation



My contribution to the original topic is PennDOT using "Bridges May Be Icy" signs along freeways on both sides of the road before every single bridge.  To me, it's a huge waste of money.

[NE2]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Is Florida the only state to do it on older sun-bleached asphalt as well as concrete?
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=26.927411,-80.077369&spn=0.008724,0.016512&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=26.927411,-80.077369&panoid=fgDw1QnNJzJwNbYq3iZMPA&cbp=12,147.73,,0,1.35

[PurdueBill]

I know these are in other states but, only in Indiana they have lights under most BGS's and they usually don't even work.

Didn't Indiana decide to turn off lights on BGS a couple years ago?  The earlier relatively-new BGS at the westside 465 area/new airport terminal interchange with I-70 have lights but those no longer are turned on, while more recent signs in the same area just don't have lights.  Other installations in the state have had lights in some places and not in others--for example, I think I recall that the signs at the I-70/US 27 SPUI were installed with lighting that is now turned off.

Interestingly, some scattered signs that are still lighted are on former INDOT right-of-way that was ceded to local control--an example is the Harrison Bridge just into Lafayette where US 231 moved in 2001 to another alignment (which will also be bypassed now); the lighted button-copy overheads on the Lafayette side are still lighted at night, with the US 231 shield pried off since summer 2001 of course.

WIth the exception of the Big Dig (I-90/I-93) system, and some lsolated locations along the MassPike, Massachusetts no longer has any illuminated BGS panels (the last ones - on Route 2 approaching the Hairpin Turn - were replaced with non-illuminated BGS panels in 2007).  And the remaining illuminated BGSes along the MassPike will likely go away when the signs and supports are replaced beginning in 2015.

Lighted BGS were always very rare in Massachusetts--traveling when young, I was surprised how common lighted BGS were in some other states compared to Mass.

Are any of the BGS still lighted on the C-D roads of I-495 either side of the Merrimack River?  I recall that they once were, only for the ones that were just past the river on either side, probably due to the curvature of the roadway as it swung back out from under the mainline (and headlights wouldn't be shining on the sign from far enough back).  That always seemed like evidence of thoughtful design--lighted signs where really needed; not overkill and not missing what's needed.

[hbelkins]

Lighted overheads really aren't needed in this era of reflective signs. West Virginia still lights its overheads, even those where button copy has been replaced with reflective signs.

[wriddle082]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

I have seen both methods used in South Carolina...

The first few miles of I-20 from the GA state line up to the US 25/SC 121 interchange (Exit 5), as well as the six-lane concrete portion of I-95 in the Florence area, have the black borders on either side of the white line.  Just like how neighboring GA does it state-wide on their concrete.

Everywhere else that I've seen in SC, they do it just like the photos of NY that Michael posted, however the black line is probably only 2/3 to 3/4 of the length of the white line.

Is Florida the only state to do it on older sun-bleached asphalt as well as concrete?
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=26.927411,-80.077369&spn=0.008724,0.016512&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=26.927411,-80.077369&panoid=fgDw1QnNJzJwNbYq3iZMPA&cbp=12,147.73,,0,1.35

I remember seeing these on asphalt I-75 in North FL way back in the early 90s before they widened it to six lanes.  And I haven't seen it anywhere else either.  But that could be because pretty much everywhere you go, they use a plentiful locally-obtained aggregate base for asphalt pavement.  And in FL, that base happens to include seashells, which are probably bleached by the sun quicker than other aggregates.

[roadman65]

Is this unique to only Michigan with the backlit overhead traffic control signs?  In this photo it is the ONE WAY sign, but have seen Left only arrows and even STOP signs as well in the State of Michigan?

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Detroit,+MI&hl=en&ll=42.315686,-83.086756&spn=0.004387,0.006427&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=10.900733,21.643066&oq=det&t=h&hnear=Detroit,+Wayne,+Michigan&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.316001,-83.084081&panoid=qNreYdAXTU-lviLYDnSZzA&cbp=12,71.41,,0,-0.09

[Brandon]

Is this unique to only Michigan with the backlit overhead traffic control signs?  In this photo it is the ONE WAY sign, but have seen Left only arrows and even STOP signs as well in the State of Michigan?

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Detroit,+MI&hl=en&ll=42.315686,-83.086756&spn=0.004387,0.006427&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=10.900733,21.643066&oq=det&t=h&hnear=Detroit,+Wayne,+Michigan&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.316001,-83.084081&panoid=qNreYdAXTU-lviLYDnSZzA&cbp=12,71.41,,0,-0.09

Chicago has them as well, but not to the extent they are used in Michigan.  The rest of Illinois doesn't have them as far as I've seen.

[bassoon1986]

Occasionally in Texas there are also blinking yield signs

[roadman65]

I have seen something in Kansas that no one else does.  On all state highways intersecting county roads, if they have directional guides for towns and cities the other road leads to, then the word "County Road" appears above the control city.

I guess its Kansas' way of saying "You are leaving the state road system."

[roadman65]

In Florida, from what I have seen, is the only state to paint black lane striping between the white broken lane lines. 

Other states are using black borders around the white broken line, but I have never seen it used alternatively with the white lines except on Florida highways.

NJ Turnpike does not maintain a lot of concrete - Driscoll Bridge is probably the longest stretch. They experimented with a wide black stripe with a narrower white stripe on top, which would be the "borders" you speak of. They found it to be a waste of paint and made it easier for the white to peel away (paint on top of paint). They are now going to the "Florida" version, white followed by black. Travel the Driscoll and you'll see.

Actually not!  Check out my youtube video from last June.  It does not have as you say in it, unless what you are talking about is very recently added.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aqE44i7xWY

[huskeroadgeek]

I have seen something in Kansas that no one else does.  On all state highways intersecting county roads, if they have directional guides for towns and cities the other road leads to, then the word "County Road" appears above the control city.

I guess its Kansas' way of saying "You are leaving the state road system."

Nebraska does something similar. On guide signs for anything that is reached by a county road it says "Via County Road" beneath the destination.