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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2014, 12:01:03 AM »

The steel beams are starting to be connected for the westbound I-290 to west IL-390 ramp, with a gantry and two boarded up signs already in place on the ramp
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2014, 08:04:31 PM »

There's a new arrow per lane sign on WB I-290 just north of the merge with I-355.  The rightmost part of the sign has a temporary panel for IL 390 West (I think with a 'TO'), but the permanent sign with a purple bit for I-PASS is slightly sticking out beneath the temporary panel.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2014, 08:32:43 PM »

According to sign plans, it's supposed to look like this:


But that sign in the field seems much taller.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2014, 10:18:01 PM »

will they change them to I-pass only or pay online like the new I-57 to I-294 ones?
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2014, 05:13:20 PM »

will they change them to I-pass only or pay online like the new I-57 to I-294 ones?

Probably like what they did with Balmoral and Eola exits. I-pass only, maybe an extended grace period before the normal 7 day to pay back when it's open
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2014, 05:19:34 PM »

will they change them to I-pass only or pay online like the new I-57 to I-294 ones?

Probably like what they did with Balmoral and Eola exits. I-pass only, maybe an extended grace period before the normal 7 day to pay back when it's open

Took a little bit of it Wednesday evening.  There are now exit numbers up for Meacham and I-290 for the EOE eastbound between Roselle and Meacham.  The road itself looks nice now, and the bridge for IL-53 is fully operational.  No more signal there, and just one left for westbound traffic coming off northbound Route 53 (I-290) (other than the left turn).
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #81 on: November 20, 2014, 03:55:22 PM »

Drivers will pay $1.90 to travel 10-mile Elgin-O'Hare tollway

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Motorists who use the Elgin-O'Hare Expressway will pay as much as $1.90 to drive the full length when it is widened, extended and converted to a tollway in 2017.

The tolling plan for the recently designated Illinois Route 390 — the east-west portion of the Elgin O'Hare Western Access project — was announced by the Illinois Tollway during a meeting Thursday morning.

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Tollway officials said they devised the tolling system for Route 390 because the roadway will have 31 entry and exit points, more than most other tollways.

The plan was to not discourage local residents and others from using Route 390 for short trips, Illinois Tollway Executive Director Kristi Lafleur said.

Tolls along 390 will range from 20 cents to 60 cents per transaction for I-Pass customers, the Tollway said.

Passenger vehicles traveling the full 10-mile length of Illinois Route 390 will pay $1.90.

There will be only one ramp toll charged, at the Ketter Drive entrance to westbound Route 390 in Itasca. That will be 25 cents for I-Pass customers.

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A Tollway survey indicated 90 percent of drivers traveling in the Elgin-O'Hare corridor have I-Pass. Of those without I-Pass, nearly a quarter indicated they would obtain one to use the new road once it opens, officials said.

More than 87 percent of all tolls on the Tollway system are collected electronically, the agency said.

A very high percentage for a toll authority that still also collects cash tolls.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #82 on: November 20, 2014, 08:52:34 PM »

Drivers will pay $1.90 to travel 10-mile Elgin-O'Hare tollway

The article says this route would be the most expensive passenger car ride on the tollway system.  I'm getting a trip on I-355 from IL 7 to US 6 to come out to 50 cents per mile.

Also with there supposedly being only one tolled ramp, are they now going to allow free use of IL 390 from I-290 to Meacham Road?  Previous signing plans I've seen indicated that indicated that there was going to be a toll for that segment, but the map with the article has the toll collection for Segment 4 near Arlington Heights Road and the toll collection for Segment 5 west of Meacham Road (appears to be near the Plum Grove Road overpass).
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #83 on: February 25, 2015, 12:23:15 PM »

Why exactly is this not being built with six lanes? They are widening the existing segment between IL-19 and I-290 to six lanes, but they are building the extension AND the West bypass with only four?

They are going to have to come back and add a lane fairly soon after this opens.  :-|
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #84 on: February 25, 2015, 05:04:34 PM »

Why exactly is this not being built with six lanes? They are widening the existing segment between IL-19 and I-290 to six lanes, but they are building the extension AND the West bypass with only four?

They are going to have to come back and add a lane fairly soon after this opens.  :-|

Money lol
What will be interesting to see is if the section gets more traffic than they are thinking. 2 lanes between 290 and the triple point of O'Hare/294/90.... That's cutting it close
« Last Edit: February 25, 2015, 05:08:39 PM by ET21 »
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #85 on: February 25, 2015, 05:30:11 PM »

Why exactly is this not being built with six lanes? They are widening the existing segment between IL-19 and I-290 to six lanes, but they are building the extension AND the West bypass with only four?

They are going to have to come back and add a lane fairly soon after this opens.  :-|

Money lol
What will be interesting to see is if the section gets more traffic than they are thinking. 2 lanes between 290 and the triple point of O'Hare/294/90.... That's cutting it close

Any Chicagoland limited access highway (freeway or tollway) needs to be six lanes at the bare minimum. I don't really know what these so called "planners" are thinking when they think they can get away with building this and IL-53 to four lanes (and it IL-53 case, to less than interstate standards).

There is going to be a lot of congestion on I-490 (the west bypass) when it opens.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #86 on: February 25, 2015, 06:50:06 PM »

I was under the impression that the 390 project was going to be four lanes in each direction throughout, including the current section that only has two lanes.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2015, 06:51:34 PM »

I was under the impression that the 390 project was going to be four lanes in each direction throughout, including the current section that only has two lanes.

I believe that is correct
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2015, 07:42:28 PM »

I was under the impression that the 390 project was going to be four lanes in each direction throughout, including the current section that only has two lanes.

I believe that is correct

Source? I've only heard the current section will be widened to three lanes in each direction (from IL-19 east) and that the extension will only be two lanes in each direction (as well as the entire West bypass/I-490)
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #89 on: February 25, 2015, 07:45:54 PM »

I was under the impression that the 390 project was going to be four lanes in each direction throughout, including the current section that only has two lanes.

I believe that is correct

Source? I've only heard the current section will be widened to three lanes in each direction (from IL-19 east) and that the extension will only be two lanes in each direction (as well as the entire West bypass/I-490)
I don't have one. I worked on it as an inspector last summer for a short time and I thought I remembered them saying it would be 4 lanes, but I can't remember for sure.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #90 on: February 25, 2015, 07:49:20 PM »

http://www.illinoistollway.com/construction-and-planning/projects-by-roadway/elgin-o-hare-western-access/eowa-corridor-overview

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The project includes:

Adding two lanes to the existing Elgin O'Hare Expressway between Illinois Route 19 and Meacham/Medinah Road and converting to a toll road with minor interchange improvements at Illinois Route 19 and Roselle Road and an improved interchange at Meacham/Medinah Road.
Extending the Elgin O'Hare Expressway east as a toll road. Constructing or improving interchanges at Illinois Route 53 (Rohlwing Road), I-290, Park Boulevard/Arlington Heights Road/Prospect Avenue, Wood Dale Road and Illinois Route 83.
Provide direct access to O'Hare Airport property from York Road via a new ramp crossing over York Road and the Union Pacific Railroad and Canadian Pacific Railway.
Enhance southern access to O'Hare via a new, four-lane Taft Avenue Connector between Illinois Route 19 and Franklin Avenue with a new crossing over the Bensenville Rail Yard.
Constructing a new toll road connecting I-90 and I-294 west of O'Hare. Constructing interchanges at I-294, County Line Road/Franklin Avenue, Illinois Route 19, the Elgin O'Hare extension, Illinois Route 72 and I-90.
Constructing a new, full-access interchange at I-90 and Elmhurst Road.
Providing new access at I-294 and Illinois Route 64 via County Line Road.
Accommodating express bus service in mixed traffic along the corridor. Bus service will be implemented by other agencies.


Check your sources...
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #91 on: February 25, 2015, 09:29:10 PM »

http://www.illinoistollway.com/construction-and-planning/projects-by-roadway/elgin-o-hare-western-access/eowa-corridor-overview

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The project includes:

Adding two lanes to the existing Elgin O'Hare Expressway between Illinois Route 19 and Meacham/Medinah Road and converting to a toll road with minor interchange improvements at Illinois Route 19 and Roselle Road and an improved interchange at Meacham/Medinah Road.
Extending the Elgin O'Hare Expressway east as a toll road. Constructing or improving interchanges at Illinois Route 53 (Rohlwing Road), I-290, Park Boulevard/Arlington Heights Road/Prospect Avenue, Wood Dale Road and Illinois Route 83.
Provide direct access to O'Hare Airport property from York Road via a new ramp crossing over York Road and the Union Pacific Railroad and Canadian Pacific Railway.
Enhance southern access to O'Hare via a new, four-lane Taft Avenue Connector between Illinois Route 19 and Franklin Avenue with a new crossing over the Bensenville Rail Yard.
Constructing a new toll road connecting I-90 and I-294 west of O'Hare. Constructing interchanges at I-294, County Line Road/Franklin Avenue, Illinois Route 19, the Elgin O'Hare extension, Illinois Route 72 and I-90.
Constructing a new, full-access interchange at I-90 and Elmhurst Road.
Providing new access at I-294 and Illinois Route 64 via County Line Road.
Accommodating express bus service in mixed traffic along the corridor. Bus service will be implemented by other agencies.


Check your sources...

http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/4362305/EOWB+Advisory+Council+Final+Report.pdf (see page 32-34)

It will only be four lanes (two in each direction), initially on the Elgin-O'Hare extension and the West bypass.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #92 on: February 25, 2015, 09:39:18 PM »

So if I understand that correctly...they're going to add two lanes on the existing 390 and then build the new freeway with only two lanes east of 290? Tollway logic is an oxymoron.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #93 on: February 25, 2015, 10:12:45 PM »

^ A decent amount of traffic is supposed to exit at I-290.

I am curious as to how much through traffic IL 390 will actually attract east of I-290.  I-290 will be cheaper and more direct for traffic heading to either SB I-294 or EB I-90 and NB I-294.  For EB I-90 traffic to SB I-294, staying on I-90 to I-294 will also be cheaper at 65 cents versus the at least 95 cent toll for IL 390 (including the 30 cents to enter EB I-290 from EB I-90).

For I-490, I could see it drawing a decent amount of through traffic for the NB I-294 to WB I-90 movement and I-90 EB to I-294 SB unless the cost in tolls makes it much cheaper to stay on I-294 and I-90 (which currently run 75 cents).
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #94 on: February 25, 2015, 10:48:30 PM »

You build the eastern half of IL-390 with 4 lanes, and then expand it as the need arises.

Until I-490 gets built, and until the western O'Hare entrance gets built, the eastern half of IL-390 is nothing more than a glorified Thorndale Avenue without stoplights. I wouldn't expect the traffic count to grow tremendously until one of those two items are built.

I cannot recall if the tolls on the western half of IL-390 will go live first, or if they are waiting for the entire length to be built.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #95 on: February 26, 2015, 05:31:03 PM »

Per this press release, the tolls on IL 390 west of I-290 will start before anything east  of I-290 is opened.

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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #96 on: March 02, 2015, 08:59:29 AM »

I saw on Youtube, this timelapse video of IL-390/I-290 interchange.
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2015, 03:14:19 AM »

According to the design schematics on the tollway website, the extension is only 2 lanes in each direction through the 290 interchange; a lane is dropped westbound after the 290 exits but is added back downstream, and eastbound the 3rd lane is dropped for 290 southbound but added back into the mainline from the second yet-to-be constructed flyover.  The west bypass (I-490) has always been planned with 2 lanes in each direction, but will also be constructed with a paved 30-foot 'shoulder' along the eastern side of the travel lanes, allegedly for future mass transit. 

Reducing lanes for initial construction isn't a bad idea.  As a previous poster noted, until I-490 (2020s) or the western terminal (2030s) are open there won't be hoards of traffic.  Like the western section, design accommodations will be made to allow future growth.

BTW I haven't heard an explanation for the exits/mileposts starting at 6.  Is the eastern terminus of the US20/Elgin Bypass 6 miles to the west?
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #98 on: March 24, 2015, 12:04:28 AM »

Yes it looks about 6 miles The ultimate plan in the 2040 plan does have the tollway connect
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Re: Elgin-O'Hare Tollway
« Reply #99 on: March 24, 2015, 03:50:05 PM »

Yes it looks about 6 miles The ultimate plan in the 2040 plan does have the tollway connect

I read that. The plan is to extend Elgin O'hare and make it start at Bartlett road. They should hurry this project up considering Cook county wants to extend Bartlett road to Oak ave and IDOT already owns most of the land to make this a reality. That's still not 6 miles, more like 3.

This leaves 3 traffic lights from the Elgin bypass to Elgin O'hare: Shales Parkway, Lambert lane, and Naperville Rd.

This year, IDOT finally has the interchange of lake street and 59 under construction.
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