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Signals Flash Yellow, "STOP" Painted on Pavement
« on: March 29, 2019, 01:53:02 AM »

Its not uncommon to find traffic control dumbassery in small towns and cities, but this one takes the cake
Bolivar St at Austin St. Marshall, TX
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.545704,-94.3663136,3a,47.3y,359.27h,80.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-nZcktmrc2BtsDgg1A6ZAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Also, why did they steal their barricades from Europe?
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Re: Signals Flash Yellow, "STOP" Painted on Pavement
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2019, 06:02:07 AM »

Its not uncommon to find traffic control dumbassery in small towns and cities, but this one takes the cake
Bolivar St at Austin St. Marshall, TX
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.545704,-94.3663136,3a,47.3y,359.27h,80.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-nZcktmrc2BtsDgg1A6ZAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Also, why did they steal their barricades from Europe?

Does that light actually work properly?  I tried going up and down, left and right, and never saw a green signal.  Just yellow and red, or completely blank.  At one point "driving" down the Austin St  I finally found a green light from a GSV 2008 shot...before 'Stop' was painted on the pavement.  I don't recall seeing the Walk/Don't Walk signs lit either.
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Re: Signals Flash Yellow, "STOP" Painted on Pavement
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2019, 10:58:28 AM »

Its not uncommon to find traffic control dumbassery in small towns and cities, but this one takes the cake
Bolivar St at Austin St. Marshall, TX
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.545704,-94.3663136,3a,47.3y,359.27h,80.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-nZcktmrc2BtsDgg1A6ZAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Also, why did they steal their barricades from Europe?

At least it only flashes yellow for one street and red for the other. Otherwise that would be disastrous.
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Re: Signals Flash Yellow, "STOP" Painted on Pavement
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2019, 12:39:12 PM »

Its not uncommon to find traffic control dumbassery in small towns and cities, but this one takes the cake
Bolivar St at Austin St. Marshall, TX
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.545704,-94.3663136,3a,47.3y,359.27h,80.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-nZcktmrc2BtsDgg1A6ZAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Also, why did they steal their barricades from Europe?

Does that light actually work properly?  I tried going up and down, left and right, and never saw a green signal.  Just yellow and red, or completely blank.  At one point "driving" down the Austin St  I finally found a green light from a GSV 2008 shot...before 'Stop' was painted on the pavement.  I don't recall seeing the Walk/Don't Walk signs lit either.

My belief is that when then first put it in flash mode, it was flashing red all ways. That's why stop is on the pavement. They likely changed it to flashing yellow for Bolivar St later on due to that movement having a higher volume and the all way stop being unnecessary.

I've seen several instances of pedestrian signals not working properly in smaller cities. Of course, they are required to not work when signals are in flash mode
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Re: Signals Flash Yellow, "STOP" Painted on Pavement
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2019, 12:57:44 PM »

I've seen several instances of pedestrian signals not working properly in smaller cities. Of course, they are required to not work when signals are in flash mode

True. Very true, in fact. :nod:
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Re: Signals Flash Yellow, "STOP" Painted on Pavement
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2019, 07:00:36 AM »

If a signal is in permanent flash mode, they should put up stop signs where appropriate.  The signals can work as beacons, to better emphasize that there is a stop sign there.

I believe that in some parts of Europe (and also likely many American signals from 50+ years ago*), there was special signage that indicated which street would have the right of way, in the event that the signal would lose power.  Unlike the US, where we would mandate an overnight flash mode, those cities would actually turn off power to the signals every night to save electricity and utilize the signage to denote which street should behave as flashing yellow and which street should behave as flashing red.

* I definitely remember seeing photographs of old signal taken before the 1950's where the signals were attached to stop signs.  THey were probably mandated during blackouts during WWII.
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Re: Signals Flash Yellow, "STOP" Painted on Pavement
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2019, 12:28:59 PM »

I believe that in some parts of Europe (and also likely many American signals from 50+ years ago*), there was special signage that indicated which street would have the right of way, in the event that the signal would lose power.  Unlike the US, where we would mandate an overnight flash mode, those cities would actually turn off power to the signals every night to save electricity and utilize the signage to denote which street should behave as flashing yellow and which street should behave as flashing red.

This is still the case; virtually every intersection will have a Priority, Yield or Stop sign on the signal post, which applies when the signal is not working or is in flashing yellow mode.   So a traffic light that's dark or flashing yellow, but has a stop sign, means you stop.  Whereas the same signal with a priority sign might as well be a green light.
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