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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #675 on: May 01, 2022, 10:32:20 AM »

Incredible that it took so long to reconstruct a few miles of highway.  I think this was something that should have been constructed at least 20 years ago.
https://www.wapt.com/article/highway-49-construction-in-rankin-county-nearly-complete/39861885#
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #676 on: May 02, 2022, 02:24:38 PM »

I was working in that area when construction first started. Coming up on 4-5 years now.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #677 on: July 12, 2022, 12:03:48 PM »

As for beginning to construct the remainder of the Greenville Bypass, it certainly took them long enough!
This is great news, but you are exactly right.  This took forever.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #678 on: July 27, 2022, 02:57:32 PM »

I just found something that may make froggie very very angry

This is current OpenStreetMap data at Silver Creek overlaid with the MDOT Centerlines data from MARIS. MDOT internal data has this road labeled as US 43 Alternate????

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/107177720#map=13/31.5585/-90.0168
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #679 on: July 27, 2022, 03:37:55 PM »

Considering I had just cleaned that up a few months ago, yes I am displeased.  43A is not a state (or US) route.  If you can fix it, please do so.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #680 on: August 03, 2022, 02:23:39 PM »

That's not something I can really fix. That's the data MDOT has in their linear reference model. I think it might be kinda considered a MS 43 Alternate, but it's not maintained by the state and instead locally maintained by the county... thus the weird designation.

I fixed a similar issue up in north Mississippi.


MDOT built a bypass of MS 25 around Amory. The old routing of MS 25 was still there, and the new routing someone had labeled "MS 25 Bypass". It turns out that MDOT turned the old route over to local governments and made the bypass the new route.

Local governments, to reduce confusion, decided to name the old routing of MS 25 as "Highway 125". They couldn't name it "Old Highway 25" because there's already an Old Highway 25... and having roads with the same name like that leads to confusion when someone inevitably has to call 911.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #681 on: August 24, 2022, 01:37:08 PM »

I see thereís a plan to four-lane State Highway 27 between Vicksburg and Crystal Springs.  This would allow people in and around Vicksburg to access I-55 without driving through Jackson.  But is a four lane really necessary in this sparsely-populated part of the state?  There is also a proposal to four-lane US Highway 61 from Leland to Redwood.  I donít think this is necessary, as the population in the Delta has been dwindling for decades.  But there are places where 61 could be realigned to shave a few miles off of the journey.  This could be done by constructing a new highway on portions of a long-abandoned railroad right of way.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #682 on: August 24, 2022, 03:23:23 PM »

I see thereís a plan to four-lane State Highway 27 between Vicksburg and Crystal Springs.  This would allow people in and around Vicksburg to access I-55 without driving through Jackson.  But is a four lane really necessary in this sparsely-populated part of the state?  There is also a proposal to four-lane US Highway 61 from Leland to Redwood.  I donít think this is necessary, as the population in the Delta has been dwindling for decades.  But there are places where 61 could be realigned to shave a few miles off of the journey.  This could be done by constructing a new highway on portions of a long-abandoned railroad right of way.

Build these with straighter two lane facilities with occasional passing lanes.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #683 on: August 24, 2022, 05:14:39 PM »

I see thereís a plan to four-lane State Highway 27 between Vicksburg and Crystal Springs.  This would allow people in and around Vicksburg to access I-55 without driving through Jackson.  But is a four lane really necessary in this sparsely-populated part of the state?  There is also a proposal to four-lane US Highway 61 from Leland to Redwood.  I donít think this is necessary, as the population in the Delta has been dwindling for decades.  But there are places where 61 could be realigned to shave a few miles off of the journey.  This could be done by constructing a new highway on portions of a long-abandoned railroad right of way.

Build these with straighter two lane facilities with occasional passing lanes.

Mississippi has very few passing lanes on its two-lane roads.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #684 on: August 26, 2022, 12:53:51 PM »

Trust me....MS 27 needs to be 4-laned. It is a very well-traveled highway. On I-55 the BGSs for exit 72 used to have Vicksburg listed. In an effort to reduce traffic, it was left off of the new signs. But the secret is out...MS 27 is an excellent Jackson bypass.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #685 on: August 26, 2022, 04:48:55 PM »

Trust me....MS 27 needs to be 4-laned. It is a very well-traveled highway. On I-55 the BGSs for exit 72 used to have Vicksburg listed. In an effort to reduce traffic, it was left off of the new signs. But the secret is out...MS 27 is an excellent Jackson bypass.

And taking it further east to MS 28 and US 49 looks like a good way to get to Hattiesburg and beyond to the beaches of AL and NW FL.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #686 on: August 26, 2022, 05:38:04 PM »

Trust me....MS 27 needs to be 4-laned. It is a very well-traveled highway. On I-55 the BGSs for exit 72 used to have Vicksburg listed. In an effort to reduce traffic, it was left off of the new signs. But the secret is out...MS 27 is an excellent Jackson bypass.

It's traveled, but not to the extent that it needs to be 4-laned.  Nowhere between Vicksburg and Crystal Springs does 27 break 5K ADT, and volumes in Warren County are actually lower now than they were when I lived in Mississippi 14 years ago, and 27 was okay then.

Could it be improved?  Sure...wider shoulders, turn lanes, an occasional passing lane.  But it doesn't scream 4 lanes to me.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #687 on: September 18, 2022, 01:13:14 PM »

There is a Google Maps street view updated to August of some portions of Highway 27.  You can see a couple of new bridges being built, including one over the Big Black River.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #688 on: September 23, 2022, 11:38:08 PM »

That's not something I can really fix. That's the data MDOT has in their linear reference model. I think it might be kinda considered a MS 43 Alternate, but it's not maintained by the state and instead locally maintained by the county... thus the weird designation.

I fixed a similar issue up in north Mississippi.


MDOT built a bypass of MS 25 around Amory. The old routing of MS 25 was still there, and the new routing someone had labeled "MS 25 Bypass". It turns out that MDOT turned the old route over to local governments and made the bypass the new route.

Local governments, to reduce confusion, decided to name the old routing of MS 25 as "Highway 125". They couldn't name it "Old Highway 25" because there's already an Old Highway 25... and having roads with the same name like that leads to confusion when someone inevitably has to call 911.
I donít see the point of this bypass. 
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #689 on: September 24, 2022, 07:28:08 AM »



MDOT built a bypass of MS 25 around Amory. The old routing of MS 25 was still there, and the new routing someone had labeled "MS 25 Bypass". It turns out that MDOT turned the old route over to local governments and made the bypass the new route.
I donít see the point of this bypass. 

MDOT has a long term plan for a full eastern bypass of Amory for MS 25.  They only had the funding to build this part south of 278, thus far.

They also have a plan for a southern Amory bypass for 278, but thatís even further out.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #690 on: September 25, 2022, 12:20:02 PM »

Google Maps Imagery now shows the construction of MS 76/Corridor V between MS 25 and MS 23.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #691 on: September 30, 2022, 10:08:39 AM »

There is a Google Maps street view updated to August of some portions of Highway 27.  You can see a couple of new bridges being built, including one over the Big Black River.

Will they keep the older bridge and 4 lane that section?
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #692 on: September 30, 2022, 07:11:38 PM »

There is a Google Maps street view updated to August of some portions of Highway 27.  You can see a couple of new bridges being built, including one over the Big Black River.

Will they keep the older bridge and 4 lane that section?

I don't know officially, but those old bridges were old, a bit narrow, and a little rough. Not ruling it out, but I would hope they replace the old bridges with new ones one way or the other.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #693 on: November 05, 2022, 02:00:39 PM »

A bunch of stuff has happened lately in Harrison county. They finished building the new bridges over Flat Branch in Gulfport, and seem to have resurfaced the road between the railroad tracks at Creosote Road all the way to the area where they rebuilt those bridges.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #694 on: November 06, 2022, 03:57:58 AM »

Iíve noticed that MDOT bid out a project last month to upgrade MS 57 to a four-lane facility from I-10 north to Vancleave, roughly 9 miles. The project is for grade/bridge/pave.

Has this been in the works for some time? Iíve never thought there was enough space between the existing road and existing development along that corridor to allow for a four-lane divided facility, and frankly, this is the first time Iíve heard of the project.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #695 on: November 07, 2022, 04:34:46 PM »

^ That project has been talked about at least since the mid-2000s.  I distinctly remember it being studied when I was stationed at Stennis (2005-2008).  I don't remember if it existed in my Meridian days (1998-2001).

The plan is to twin 57 up to Gautier-Vancleve Rd, then build a bypass west of Vancleve, returning to the existing alignment near Mariposa Ln.

Here's a WLOX story from 2017, when the project was previously going to start but was put on hold due to having its funding pulled.

Here's a Corps of Engineers release from April talking a little about the wetlands permit MDOT requested for the project.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #696 on: November 08, 2022, 04:46:47 PM »

I saw by luck this old study about Airport Pkwy and MS-25 connectors published in 1999 on Google books.
https://books.google.ca/books/about/Airport_Parkway_and_Mississippi_25_Conne.html?id=7co1AQAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #697 on: December 12, 2022, 04:31:38 PM »

Something I have a question about....

I see a few old instances of business routes in Mississippi. They're extremely uncommon in general but sprinkled throughout old topo maps and stale TIGER data, you'll see references in Laurel to a MS 15 Business route and a US 84 Business Route. Are these still existing but unsigned, or long decommissioned? What's the deal here?
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #698 on: December 12, 2022, 05:09:37 PM »

I thought that the US 61 and US 84 BUS routes posted in Natchez have been long decommissioned.
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Re: Mississippi
« Reply #699 on: December 12, 2022, 05:32:18 PM »

Mississippi seems to use MS 1xx state routes instead of business US routes (for example, MS 145, MS 178, MS 184, MS 198). I don't know whether all the MS 1xx routes used to be signed as Business US xx.
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