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Interstate 2
« on: July 18, 2013, 11:38:02 AM »
I looked at the google maps for a town in south Texas for my possible trip, and I noticed a new interstate shield.. Interstate 2?! Where does that come from... and I have not heard of anything about it.. (I knew about three I-69s). Is there a reason for I-2? Just curious.


Is there a possible extension of I-2 or?
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2013, 11:43:39 AM »
It was approved in May, at the same time as I-69C and I-69E.  See the "I-69 in TX" thread for more info.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2013, 11:45:51 AM »
Even better, a link to a picture showing an I-2 shield from that thread. :)

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg232990#msg232990
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 11:55:26 AM »
The official dedication of Interstate 2 was this past Monday, so it hasn't been around long, althought it was approved May 30th.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2013, 12:06:12 PM »
I posted that it should be I-69S.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2013, 12:16:07 PM »
AASHTO approved I-2 in early May and additional discussion about I-2 can be found in this AASHTO thread:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9416.msg220220#msg220220


Quote from: Avalanchez71 on July 18, 2013, 12:06:12 PM
I posted that it should be I-69S.

Likewise, with the additional suggestion that TX 44 should be I-69N:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3624.msg165054#msg165054
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM »
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2013, 02:15:24 PM »
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

Maybe extend it to US 41 in Naples then over to Miami via the Gulf of Mexico.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 02:18:00 PM »
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on July 18, 2013, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

Maybe extend it to US 41 in Naples then over to Miami via the Gulf of Mexico.

And I think there is a proposal to extend it west through Mexico on the Federal Highway 2 corridor.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2013, 02:23:16 PM »
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

it depends on what value you assign the letter H.  I've always thought H-1, H-2, H-3 were the three lowest.

now that we have a 2 and an H-2, it may be time to re-evaluate things.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 02:31:54 PM »
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

And connect it to Loop 20, or what?

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Quote from: Avalanchez71 on July 18, 2013, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

Maybe extend it to US 41 in Naples then over to Miami via the Gulf of Mexico.

And I think there is a proposal to extend it west through Mexico on the Federal Highway 2 corridor.

Well, if we actually combine the idea of extending it into México with the idea of extending it to Laredo, then I say we make this corridor a full freeway:
http://goo.gl/maps/0aPFT

If we remove Laredo from the equation, then there's this:
http://goo.gl/maps/j3xCd
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 03:23:32 PM »
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 18, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

it depends on what value you assign the letter H.  I've always thought H-1, H-2, H-3 were the three lowest.

now that we have a 2 and an H-2, it may be time to re-evaluate things.

H is a variable substituting for the imaginary number, i.  Hence, I-1i, I-2i, and I-3i, and all have been divided by zero.  :bigass:
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2013, 03:31:11 PM »
Quote from: Brandon on July 18, 2013, 03:23:32 PM

H is a variable substituting for the imaginary number, i.  Hence, I-1i, I-2i, and I-3i, and all have been divided by zero.  :bigass:

giving something an imaginary component doesn't mean dividing it by 0.  1/0 != i.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2013, 04:10:41 PM »
Quote from: kphoger on July 18, 2013, 02:31:54 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

And connect it to Loop 20, or what?

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 18, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on July 18, 2013, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

Maybe extend it to US 41 in Naples then over to Miami via the Gulf of Mexico.

And I think there is a proposal to extend it west through Mexico on the Federal Highway 2 corridor.

Well, if we actually combine the idea of extending it into México with the idea of extending it to Laredo, then I say we make this corridor a full freeway:
http://goo.gl/maps/0aPFT

If we remove Laredo from the equation, then there's this:
http://goo.gl/maps/j3xCd

In all seriousness, I am all for it being extended to Laredo, on the US side. Some of the I-69 Alliance maps show the corridor from Laredo to current I-2 as future upgrading, so it looks like it will happen. We will just see how long it takes. Personally I would like to see it keep going west to I-10 so it connects El Paso to The Valley and Laredo directly, but good luck trying to get an interstate to go through the remote desert. 
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2013, 04:16:50 PM »
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 18, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thats pretty interesting... I guess this makes I-2 officially the lowest numbered interstate. Hopefully it will be extended west to Laredo maybe?

it depends on what value you assign the letter H.  I've always thought H-1, H-2, H-3 were the three lowest.

now that we have a 2 and an H-2, it may be time to re-evaluate things.

We've long had (unsigned) Interstates A-2 and PRI-2 as well. so adding an I-2 to the system isn't that big a deal from the system-purity standpoint.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2013, 05:08:08 PM »
My south Texas Interstate and highways map proposal


Laredo Texas proposed map
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2013, 05:16:07 PM »
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on July 18, 2013, 02:15:24 PM
Maybe extend it to US 41 in Naples then over to Miami via the Gulf of Mexico.

Echoes of the I-2 Immigration Freedomway's vision of an extension to Cuba and then up to Miami.  Remarkably, in less than 1.5 years, part of the Texas portion of the I-2 Immigration Freedomway Corridor has become signed reality:

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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2013, 08:03:00 PM »
Let's please keep the "fictional" maps in the fictional area please, Jbte.  Thanks.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2013, 11:35:49 AM »
I can see I-2 extended to Laredo.. (where I-35 and I-69) will meet in the future. Can't see it extended it farther west..
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2013, 02:17:23 AM »
Quote from: Strider on July 19, 2013, 11:35:49 AM
I can see I-2 extended to Laredo.. (where I-35 and I-69) will meet in the future. Can't see it extended it farther west..

Considering there isn't even a direct paved road between Laredo and Eagle Pass on the US side today (and no real plans to pave the road that's there), I'm sure you're right.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2013, 06:19:56 PM »
Wasn't the original designation for any freeway from Laredo south along US 83 going to be Interstate 31?
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2013, 07:00:18 PM »
Quote from: msubulldog on July 21, 2013, 06:19:56 PM
Wasn't the original designation for any freeway from Laredo south along US 83 going to be Interstate 31?
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2013, 01:55:24 AM »
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 18, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
now that we have a 2 and an H-2, it may be time to re-evaluate things.

Actually, it's Texas, so they'll call it IH-2.  Put that together with Hawaii's I-H2…
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2013, 08:45:33 PM »
But that's just Texas being Texas.  As far as the rest of the country is concerned, it's I-2.
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Re: Interstate 2
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2013, 01:58:06 AM »
Quote from: vtk on July 22, 2013, 01:55:24 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 18, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
now that we have a 2 and an H-2, it may be time to re-evaluate things.

Actually, it's Texas, so they'll call it IH-2.  Put that together with Hawaii's I-H2…

Interesting, maybe this will finally convince those wacky Texans at the TXDOT to stop calling their Interstates as "IH" and just use the plain ol' "I" like the rest of the Continental US.
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