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Interstate 369
Grzrd:
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--- Quote from: txstateends on September 21, 2013, 09:28:37 PM ---why bother covering it, if it's half-undone before they even unveil the sign?
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Maybe to hide the "TEXAS" on the shield, as revealed in this unveiled photo from this article:
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(above quote from Texarkana (Future I-49, I-69 Spur) thread)
--- Quote from: Grzrd on July 21, 2012, 11:24:58 PM ---This July 16 video report, in addition to having footage of "Future I-69 Corridor" signs, reports (as does this related print report), that the immediate focus regarding the Carthage part of the I-69 Spur (slightly north of where mainline I-69 will meet the I-69 Spur in Tenaha) is to try to get $15 million to complete the west loop around Carthage:
--- Quote ---... the I-69 project through Panola County would cost about $35 million. But, for now, the focus is on trying to get about $15 million to complete the west loop around Carthage.
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Even though it will take a long time to build the I-69 Spur, it is interesting to see media coverage of future segments outside of Texarkana.
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(above quote from Texarkana (Future I-49, I-69 Spur) thread)
Since the I-369 shields are now up in Texarkana, I thought it would be a good time to start an I-369 thread for the occasional bits of information about I-369 outside of Texarkana. This article discusses Future I-369 in Carthage and other communities along the corridor:
--- Quote ---More progress on Interstate 69 has been completed in the past two years than in the entire 20 years the project has been in the works, said Charles Thomas, executive director of the Carthage Improvement Corporation.
“I guess no one took us serious at first,” Thomas said.
Thomas, along with County Judge David Anderson, are both members of the I-69 Segment One committee. Segment One includes all the counties in which Highway 59 traverses from Texarkana to Nacogdoches ....
the 115 mile segment of interstate that will connect I-69 in Teneha to I-30 in Texarkana will be built around Carthage and has been named I-369.
“The interstate could take the route of the east loop,” Thomas said. “I don’t think either side of the loop would require more studies, and the wide right-of-way wouldn’t take too much space.”
The interstate will split in Tenaha where Thomas said segments will go north to Texarkana and east to Logansport.
“We wanted I-69 to come up to Carthage and then go Highway 79 east, but Logansport had a congressman on the appropriation board,” Thomas said.
Thomas said the interstate construction in Carthage should be smooth.
“Our four lane divided loop is basically an interstate without frontage roads,” Thomas said. “They will either use the existing loop or build an outside loop. I think they will use the existing loop, there are a few driveways, but that’s not hard to fix.”
The entire loop is four lanes except for the Southwest segment from U.S. 59 to Highway 315.
“Panola County is so far ahead of most everyone else,” Thomas said. “We voted bonds to buy the right-of-ways years ago, and now, only one section of the loop is two lanes, that can be fixed in a few years.”
When construction of the interstate is completed, Thomas said Panola Countians will be able to access safer, faster and more convenient roads easier.
“I-69 will only be about 10 miles away,” Thomas said. “Then we’ll have the interstate coming through Carthage.” ....
“They haven’t decided which way the interstate will go around Marshall,” Thomas said. “People want it to go one way or another, but there is no way it can go through town.”
Relief routes have been suggested for existing US Highway 59 through Garrison, Timpson and Tenaha that would widen and upgrade the road, but also include new alignment options around these communities where there is not enough right-of-way to expand the existing road.
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Maybe the Carthage Loop will be the first I-369 segment outside of Texarkana.*
edit * However, the Segment One Committee officially listed the Marshall relief route and the Texarkana West Loop as higher priorities. Two other priorities, (1) the US 59 relief route at Garrison, Timpson and Tenaha, and (2) the US 84 relief route at Tenaha and Joaquin, may involve the I-369/I-69 interchange near Tenaha (page 25/30 of pdf; page 19 of document):
The I-369 shields in Texarkana capped off the first accomplishment of a Segment One I-369-related priority.
Brandon:
Got a really stupid question based on the map. Why is I-369 needed when I-49 will do the exact same thing, not all that far away? Is Shreveport really all that busy and congested?
roadman65:
--- Quote from: Brandon on October 20, 2013, 10:41:30 AM ---Got a really stupid question based on the map. Why is I-369 needed when I-49 will do the exact same thing, not all that far away? Is Shreveport really all that busy and congested?
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Probably the same reason why I-69E and I-69C are so close together in SE Texas.
Revive 755:
Was there some routing change for I-369, or did I just have it pictured wrong? I had thought it was to be more of a diagonal between Texarkana and I-69, but the map a couple posts up just has it going north-south and even cutting back to the east a bit where it will intersect I-69 - a lot less useful IMHO.
Grzrd:
--- Quote from: Revive 755 on October 20, 2013, 02:11:23 PM ---Was there some routing change for I-369, or did I just have it pictured wrong? I had thought it was to be more of a diagonal between Texarkana and I-69, but the map a couple posts up just has it going north-south and even cutting back to the east a bit where it will intersect I-69 - a lot less useful IMHO.
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You might be thinking of the map from this post:
--- Quote from: Grzrd on August 06, 2012, 06:18:58 PM ---The I-69 Segment One Committee Report and Recommendations contains an interesting map which ... shows a direct "Committee Suggested I-69 Connecting Route" between Carthage and Nacogdoches as a "Truck Route" (instead of a Relief Route) ... (page 21/155 of pdf; page 15 of document):
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If cost were of no concern, then the "Truck Route" would make a lot of sense. However, if you look at the $4.58 billion cost estimate for Segment One (of which I-369 is a large part) in the map from the OP and compare it to the cost estimates for the other Segments, then it makes sense that they would characterize a new terrain connection from Nacogdoches to Carthage as a "Truck Route".
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