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ixnay

Quote from: Dough4872 on November 26, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 25, 2023, 09:00:25 PM
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.

Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.

A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.

https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html


Dough4872

Quote from: ixnay on December 01, 2023, 09:04:20 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on November 26, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 25, 2023, 09:00:25 PM
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.

Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.

A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.

https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html

A lot of businesses are gonna be lost at that intersection, but that interchange is sorely needed because traffic backs up at the light on US 113, particularly in the summer months.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: ixnay on December 01, 2023, 09:04:20 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on November 26, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 25, 2023, 09:00:25 PM
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.

Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.

A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.

https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html

Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.

RoadPelican

I always remember traveling by that Hardee's as a kid going to visit Grandma in Ocean City. I know that whole area just north of Hardee's was all woods in the 1990's.

Seeing the Hardee's meant "Yeah! Mommy & Daddy can drive a little faster because were about to go onto 4 lane 113" or it meant "Oh no! we're turning onto 2 lane 404"

Just a couple miles down US 113 at US 9, I remember having a few good meals at the Ponderosa Steakhouse (similar to a Golden Corral) and shopping Jamesway Department Store. Both were gone by 2000. Jamesway became Walmart then that moved to the north side of Georgetown.

74/171FAN

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Dough4872

Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 04, 2023, 02:00:40 PM
The US 9 TRUCK Route realignment in Georgetown apparently opened in September, and I just now found out about it.

The Street View imagery from September shows the sign blade showing the new alignment of US 9 Truck along Arrow Safety Road, yet past the intersection is a sign pointing for US 9 Truck/DE 404 Truck to continue south along US 113 to South Bedford Street. Also there is no US 9 Truck reassurance markers along Arrow Safety Road past US 113. Construction may have not been 100 percent complete at the time of the imagery or else DelDOT did not bother to update all the signage to reflect the new truck route. The Park Avenue Relocation project for the new truck route isn't due to be complete until 2024 according to DelDOT's website, so it's likely US 9 Truck is still on its old alignment and the sign blade is just getting ahead for when the new alignment will be implemented.

roadman65

I noticed that Thompson Road in Milford didn't exist prior to the interchange on DE 1 opened in circa 2017. Older imagery prior to 2016 shows no former intersection at that location that the interchange replaced.

Is Thompson Road one of those development enhancements that either Sussex County or Milford built to encourage economic growth?
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

74/171FAN

Quote from: Dough4872 on December 04, 2023, 09:26:13 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 04, 2023, 02:00:40 PM
The US 9 TRUCK Route realignment in Georgetown apparently opened in September, and I just now found out about it.

The Street View imagery from September shows the sign blade showing the new alignment of US 9 Truck along Arrow Safety Road, yet past the intersection is a sign pointing for US 9 Truck/DE 404 Truck to continue south along US 113 to South Bedford Street. Also there is no US 9 Truck reassurance markers along Arrow Safety Road past US 113. Construction may have not been 100 percent complete at the time of the imagery or else DelDOT did not bother to update all the signage to reflect the new truck route. The Park Avenue Relocation project for the new truck route isn't due to be complete until 2024 according to DelDOT's website, so it's likely US 9 Truck is still on its old alignment and the sign blade is just getting ahead for when the new alignment will be implemented.

Yeah, I had forgotten that there was a relocation east of Arrow Safety Rd.
I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

elsmere241

Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2023, 08:05:18 AM
Quote from: ixnay on December 01, 2023, 09:04:20 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on November 26, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 25, 2023, 09:00:25 PM
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.

Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.

A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.

https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html

Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.

I would expect to se the building number spray-painted in orange on the building before it's torn down.  That's how DelDOT marks condemned buildings.

Alex

Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 05, 2023, 07:04:11 AM
Quote from: Dough4872 on December 04, 2023, 09:26:13 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 04, 2023, 02:00:40 PM
The US 9 TRUCK Route realignment in Georgetown apparently opened in September, and I just now found out about it.

The Street View imagery from September shows the sign blade showing the new alignment of US 9 Truck along Arrow Safety Road, yet past the intersection is a sign pointing for US 9 Truck/DE 404 Truck to continue south along US 113 to South Bedford Street. Also there is no US 9 Truck reassurance markers along Arrow Safety Road past US 113. Construction may have not been 100 percent complete at the time of the imagery or else DelDOT did not bother to update all the signage to reflect the new truck route. The Park Avenue Relocation project for the new truck route isn't due to be complete until 2024 according to DelDOT's website, so it's likely US 9 Truck is still on its old alignment and the sign blade is just getting ahead for when the new alignment will be implemented.

Yeah, I had forgotten that there was a relocation east of Arrow Safety Rd.

The realignment off Park Avenue is definitely not open yet. Still just grading as of 11/23/23:


Dough4872

Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2023, 03:27:06 AM
I noticed that Thompson Road in Milford didn't exist prior to the interchange on DE 1 opened in circa 2017. Older imagery prior to 2016 shows no former intersection at that location that the interchange replaced.

Is Thompson Road one of those development enhancements that either Sussex County or Milford built to encourage economic growth?

I don't recall a Thompson Road in Milford. Are you referring to Thompsonville Road? That road previously headed east from DE 1 at an intersection before the interchange was built. When the interchange was built, a connector road was built from the interchange west to Church Hill Road.

74/171FAN

I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

roadman65

Quote from: Dough4872 on December 06, 2023, 08:38:01 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2023, 03:27:06 AM
I noticed that Thompson Road in Milford didn't exist prior to the interchange on DE 1 opened in circa 2017. Older imagery prior to 2016 shows no former intersection at that location that the interchange replaced.

Is Thompson Road one of those development enhancements that either Sussex County or Milford built to encourage economic growth?

I don't recall a Thompson Road in Milford. Are you referring to Thompsonville Road? That road previously headed east from DE 1 at an intersection before the interchange was built. When the interchange was built, a connector road was built from the interchange west to Church Hill Road.

Yeah that what I set out to type. Either I made an error or autocorrect changed my name.  I'll have to check GSV previous older images, but I recall seeing no intersection there.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Dough4872

Quote from: roadman65 on December 06, 2023, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on December 06, 2023, 08:38:01 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2023, 03:27:06 AM
I noticed that Thompson Road in Milford didn't exist prior to the interchange on DE 1 opened in circa 2017. Older imagery prior to 2016 shows no former intersection at that location that the interchange replaced.

Is Thompson Road one of those development enhancements that either Sussex County or Milford built to encourage economic growth?

I don't recall a Thompson Road in Milford. Are you referring to Thompsonville Road? That road previously headed east from DE 1 at an intersection before the interchange was built. When the interchange was built, a connector road was built from the interchange west to Church Hill Road.

Yeah that what I set out to type. Either I made an error or autocorrect changed my name.  I'll have to check GSV previous older images, but I recall seeing no intersection there.

DE 1 had a traffic light with Thompsonville Road, which headed east from DE 1, prior to the interchange being built.

ixnay

Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2023, 08:05:18 AM
Quote from: ixnay on December 01, 2023, 09:04:20 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on November 26, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 25, 2023, 09:00:25 PM
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.

Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.

A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.

https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html

Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.

The neighborhood Arby's is history too, now.

https://www.wboc.com/news/georgetown-faces-temporary-disruptions-as-u-s-113-improvement-project-progresses/article_298bb51a-9a19-11ee-ac5b-b7f6674ab832.html

davewiecking

Quote from: ixnay on December 13, 2023, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2023, 08:05:18 AM
Quote from: ixnay on December 01, 2023, 09:04:20 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on November 26, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 25, 2023, 09:00:25 PM
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.

Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.

A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.

https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html

Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.

The neighborhood Arby's is history too, now.

https://www.wboc.com/news/georgetown-faces-temporary-disruptions-as-u-s-113-improvement-project-progresses/article_298bb51a-9a19-11ee-ac5b-b7f6674ab832.html

The article talks about the Arby's further "down" the road; it's actually a tad north of the Hardee's which I'd call "up" the road. Surprised the Royal Farms is closing; I assumed when it was built a few years ago (after the Ford dealer moved to a new building a few hundred feet east) that it would stay because the new plan doesn't include any ramps in the NE corner.

Dough4872

Quote from: davewiecking on December 13, 2023, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: ixnay on December 13, 2023, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2023, 08:05:18 AM
Quote from: ixnay on December 01, 2023, 09:04:20 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on November 26, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 25, 2023, 09:00:25 PM
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.

Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.

A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.

https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html

Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.

The neighborhood Arby's is history too, now.

https://www.wboc.com/news/georgetown-faces-temporary-disruptions-as-u-s-113-improvement-project-progresses/article_298bb51a-9a19-11ee-ac5b-b7f6674ab832.html

The article talks about the Arby's further "down" the road; it's actually a tad north of the Hardee's which I'd call "up" the road. Surprised the Royal Farms is closing; I assumed when it was built a few years ago (after the Ford dealer moved to a new building a few hundred feet east) that it would stay because the new plan doesn't include any ramps in the NE corner.

Royal Farms opened a new location at the south end of Georgetown. Even if the ramps aren't built in the NE corner the Royal Farms will lose its access roads so that's why it has to close.

ixnay

How will the 113/404 project affect the shopping center in the NW corner (Walmart, Walgreens, and other merchants in that quarter)?

davewiecking

Quote from: ixnay on December 15, 2023, 08:23:20 AM
How will the 113/404 project affect the shopping center in the NW corner (Walmart, Walgreens, and other merchants in that quarter)?

Seems I've mis-remembered the plan. No effect on that shopping center.
https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1260243&iProjectObjectID=48378

74/171FAN

I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

74/171FAN

I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

74/171FAN

I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

74/171FAN

I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

74/171FAN

I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

74/171FAN

I moved the DE 1 interstate discussion to its own thread.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=34381.0

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