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Started by Mike2357, August 12, 2021, 08:56:00 PM

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thspfc

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 15, 2021, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: Mike2357 on August 14, 2021, 04:20:52 PM
I just realized there are two I-695s in NY, and they are both almost as tiny!
I know of I-695 in The Bronx. Where is the other one?

NVM, the other one is just a state route that my glitch maps designated Interstate. I don't think any state has multiple of the same interstate within the same state.
I-405 in Portland is 5 miles south of the Washington border, that's probably the closest.


Bruce

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 09:52:32 AM
US 101 should be upgraded toan expressway it's entire length and be designated I-1.

No, not in a million years.

The Pacific Coast, especially in Washington, is sparsely populated and is valued for its scenic beauty. A freeway would ruin delicate local environments, harm local salmon (which are already in danger because of heat and tire pollution), and would cost billions that we could better spend on other needs.

US 101 is fine as it is. If you're looking to spend billions on the coastal communities, then upgrading tsunami evacuation routes is the way to go.

Mike2357

Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them. I-80 is your tsunami evacuation route.
Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America

SkyPesos

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them. I-80 is your tsunami evacuation route.
I-80 comes nowhere close to the Pacific Northwest.

Mike2357

Quote from: SkyPesos on August 15, 2021, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them. I-80 is your tsunami evacuation route.
I-80 comes nowhere close to the Pacific Northwest.

It goes all the way to San Francisco and I-90 takes care of the northern most western states.
Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America

Scott5114

uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

SkyPesos

US 101 between Los Angeles and some point north of San Francisco (thinking San Rafael, Santa Rosa or Cloverdale) could theoretically be designated as an I-3, with the exception of the section between I-880 and I-580. Other than that, the route is fine as is.

Bruce

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them. I-80 is your tsunami evacuation route.

Olympic National Park would lose its UNESCO World Heritage status if it had a freeway rammed through it. Construction would be extremely disruptive to everything and would leave deep scars in the landscape.

Also, the main tsunami risk zone for the Cascadia subduction zone starts far north of San Francisco. Besides that, a full-fledged freeway is not exactly an ideal tsunami evacuation route (especially if there's barriers). Just need to get people to higher ground within the small window after an earthquake, so a four-lane undivided road for a few miles would be sufficient.

Flint1979

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 15, 2021, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: Mike2357 on August 14, 2021, 04:20:52 PM
I just realized there are two I-695s in NY, and they are both almost as tiny!
I know of I-695 in The Bronx. Where is the other one?

I don't think any state has multiple of the same interstate within the same state.
They don't. It's one of the rules of the system. They can use the same number in another state tho.

sparker

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 15, 2021, 07:51:47 PM
Clearly a freeway would improve this spot. :rolleyes:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9001946,-123.7534966,3a,75y,123.3h,87.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVoNr8kY_WqpHDSVNwLqe4Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Or here.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7429604,-124.1683619,3a,75y,146.27h,82.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1slNYwzqgbJVI1kEhUIo9rhQ!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Actually, 101 on the beach south of Crescent City, as pictured, leads directly to the always-ready-to-slide-into-the-ocean Last Chance Grade (discussed over in SW); an inland bypass, probably at least to 2-lane expressway standards, would likely be located somewhere to the left of the picture's aspect.  The beach road would be the old alignment; if not for the aforementioned grade, D1 would likely ask the state legislature to recommission it as a scenic alternative to 101 along the lines of CA 254 and CA 271 to the south -- but with that grade included, they'd just as soon relinquish it to Del Norte County to become a local facility.  They've been putting it off for decades -- but seeing as how the 101 segment between Klamath and the beach pictured could be rendered unusable with any winter's weather, a bypass might happen sooner than later. 

And BTW -- While branching off one, NY 695 in the Syracuse area is not an Interstate, just a short freeway connector between I-690 and NY 5, deriving its number from 690. 

formulanone

#85
You're new to this "roads" thing, aren't you? I guess we have start somewhere.

Perhaps you should visit these places in person before deciding whether an Interstate Highway would improve the look.

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them.

Bad ideas made fresh every day.

Mike2357

Quote from: formulanone on August 16, 2021, 09:12:50 AM
You're new to this "roads" thing, aren't you? I guess we have start somewhere.

Perhaps you should visit these places in person before deciding whether an Interstate Highway would improve the look.

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them.

Bad ideas made fresh every day.

In my opinion traffic efficiency in general should be prioritized over scenic beauty. No amount of AWE from visiting these places would change my mind about adding a measly 100 foot wide interstate through them. Also, tunnels through the mountains do nothing to the scenery.
Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America

Mike2357

Quote from: sparker on August 16, 2021, 08:39:46 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 15, 2021, 07:51:47 PM
Clearly a freeway would improve this spot. :rolleyes:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9001946,-123.7534966,3a,75y,123.3h,87.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVoNr8kY_WqpHDSVNwLqe4Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Or here.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7429604,-124.1683619,3a,75y,146.27h,82.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1slNYwzqgbJVI1kEhUIo9rhQ!2e0!5s20180601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Actually, 101 on the beach south of Crescent City, as pictured, leads directly to the always-ready-to-slide-into-the-ocean Last Chance Grade (discussed over in SW); an inland bypass, probably at least to 2-lane expressway standards, would likely be located somewhere to the left of the picture's aspect.  The beach road would be the old alignment; if not for the aforementioned grade, D1 would likely ask the state legislature to recommission it as a scenic alternative to 101 along the lines of CA 254 and CA 271 to the south -- but with that grade included, they'd just as soon relinquish it to Del Norte County to become a local facility.  They've been putting it off for decades -- but seeing as how the 101 segment between Klamath and the beach pictured could be rendered unusable with any winter's weather, a bypass might happen sooner than later. 

And BTW -- While branching off one, NY 695 in the Syracuse area is not an Interstate, just a short freeway connector between I-690 and NY 5, deriving its number from 690.

Speaking of Cresent City, that should be the northern terminus of I-11, completing it's Northwest Route through Tuscon, Phoenix, Vegas, Carson City, Reno, and finally ending in Crescent City California.
Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America

SkyPesos

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 16, 2021, 11:25:43 AM
Quote from: formulanone on August 16, 2021, 09:12:50 AM
You're new to this "roads" thing, aren't you? I guess we have start somewhere.

Perhaps you should visit these places in person before deciding whether an Interstate Highway would improve the look.

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them.

Bad ideas made fresh every day.

In my opinion traffic efficiency in general should be prioritized over scenic beauty. No amount of AWE from visiting these places would change my mind about adding a measly 100 foot wide interstate through them. Also, tunnels through the mountains do nothing to the scenery.
Can confirm that you sound like FritzOwl here...

jmacswimmer

Quote from: SkyPesos on August 16, 2021, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: Mike2357 on August 16, 2021, 11:25:43 AM
Quote from: formulanone on August 16, 2021, 09:12:50 AM
You're new to this "roads" thing, aren't you? I guess we have start somewhere.

Perhaps you should visit these places in person before deciding whether an Interstate Highway would improve the look.

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them.

Bad ideas made fresh every day.

In my opinion traffic efficiency in general should be prioritized over scenic beauty. No amount of AWE from visiting these places would change my mind about adding a measly 100 foot wide interstate through them. Also, tunnels through the mountains do nothing to the scenery.
Can confirm that you sound like FritzOwl here...

Is it time for "Compilation: Mike2357 in one thread" yet?  He wasted no time picking up the spam-poster baton from the other one that was recently resolved...  :spin:
"Now, what if da Bearss were to enter the Indianapolis 5-hunnert?"
"How would they compete?"
"Let's say they rode together in a big buss."
"Is Ditka driving?"
"Of course!"
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"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

Mike2357

No clue who that is, think I saw him in one of the pinned threads, but nope I only ever first learned of this site when I looked up online why the hell I-76 didn't include the Atlantic city expressway, and the thread on that subject came up. I swear I am not a troll, I literally have 0 other Social media, deleted Facebook, youtube, Twitter, quora, citydata.com months ago. This site however looks like a genuine place for gallimaufary and intelligent discussion.
Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America

Mike2357

I've already filled 3 notebooks on my interstate highway plans, as they are constantly being refined and perfected. My hands started aching though from all the writing so being able to type on this site was a blessing.
Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America

hotdogPi

I think he's just acting like a kid, similarly to Roadgeekteen and tolbs17. Note the thread created just to make a single joke as well as the "land on the sun" series of posts.

HighwayStar was described as a "keyboard warrior" by someone else. Mike2357 may have some of the same beliefs, particularly that cars are superior, but there's a huge difference: HighwayStar thinks he's morally superior and will attack anyone who goes against him.

That said, Roadgeekteen did get a temporary ban in 2017 for making useless posts, as did tolbs17 within the last month, and Angelo71 (even more of a kid) just simply left for about a month.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 25

Mike2357

Yep, 21 years old is now considered a kid these days...
Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America

SkyPesos

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 16, 2021, 11:50:32 AM
No clue who that is, think I saw him in one of the pinned threads, but nope I only ever first learned of this site when I looked up online why the hell I-76 didn't include the Atlantic city expressway, and the thread on that subject came up. I swear I am not a troll, I literally have 0 other Social media, deleted Facebook, youtube, Twitter, quora, citydata.com months ago. This site however looks like a genuine place for gallimaufary and intelligent discussion.
There's a thread in fictional called "Compilation: FritzOwl in one thread" , which is for his absurd interstate highway plans, like replacing US routes with an AADT of 3, having 20 E-W interstatws end in California, building interstates on barrier islands and Alaska, and interstates on ferries across the Gulf of Mexico.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: jmacswimmer on August 16, 2021, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on August 16, 2021, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: Mike2357 on August 16, 2021, 11:25:43 AM
Quote from: formulanone on August 16, 2021, 09:12:50 AM
You're new to this "roads" thing, aren't you? I guess we have start somewhere.

Perhaps you should visit these places in person before deciding whether an Interstate Highway would improve the look.

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 15, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Part of the scenic beauty of mountains are the nice slim Grey curvy lines you see snaking through them.

Bad ideas made fresh every day.

In my opinion traffic efficiency in general should be prioritized over scenic beauty. No amount of AWE from visiting these places would change my mind about adding a measly 100 foot wide interstate through them. Also, tunnels through the mountains do nothing to the scenery.
Can confirm that you sound like FritzOwl here...

Is it time for "Compilation: Mike2357 in one thread" yet?  He wasted no time picking up the spam-poster baton from the other one that was recently resolved...  :spin:

Just a matter of time before another "peekaboo"  thread. 

Mike2357

Oh Ok yeah he sounds weird. No I-s should have a ferry connection. I did have a plan for a 20,000 mile transcontinental highway involving a tunnel under the Bering Straight, but I think I'll stop embarassing myself here and let owl take the medal for now. Besides isn't this site only for US roads, would international ones be considered spam?
Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America

hotdogPi

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 16, 2021, 12:08:16 PM
Oh Ok yeah he sounds weird. No I-s should have a ferry connection. I did have a plan for a 20,000 mile transcontinental highway involving a tunnel under the Bering Straight, but I think I'll stop embarassing myself here and let owl take the medal for now. Besides isn't this site only for US roads, would international ones be considered spam?

This site isn't limited to the US, but almost all members are from the US or Canada.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 25

SkyPesos

Quote from: Mike2357 on August 16, 2021, 12:08:16 PMBesides isn't this site only for US roads, would international ones be considered spam?
Nope. Canadian and Mexican roads are common topics here, and there are dedicated threads in the "International highways"  section for other countries. Personally, I talk about roads and traffic control in China here a bit.

Mike2357

Interstate Highways are what define the United States of America



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