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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2018, 05:18:03 PM »

Rerouting US 63 to follow US 49's route from Jonesboro to Brinkley makes sense. The only question I have is why they waited almost 20 years to relocate US 63 along this route, when they could have done it in 1999, when US 63 was first extended?
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2018, 05:25:05 PM »

Rerouting US 63 to follow US 49's route from Jonesboro to Brinkley makes sense. The only question I have is why they waited almost 20 years to relocate US 63 along this route, when they could have done it in 1999, when US 63 was first extended?

I am guessing ARDOT was waiting on I-555 to become official before rerouting US 63.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2018, 06:34:17 PM »

Rerouting US 63 to follow US 49's route from Jonesboro to Brinkley makes sense. The only question I have is why they waited almost 20 years to relocate US 63 along this route, when they could have done it in 1999, when US 63 was first extended?

I am guessing ARDOT was waiting on I-555 to become official before rerouting US 63.

Most likely. Without Rick Crawford, it would never have happened , or at least for many more years.
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[Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2021, 06:37:45 PM »

Hey everyone! I haven't written anything on this forum in a while, but I do think this should really be brought up, and I haven't seen any forum threads posted about it elsewhere.

U.S. Route 63 has changed its alignment between U.S. Route 70 and Jonesboro. I don't have any sort of legal proof of this (minute orders or anything similar), but I did go to Jonesboro earlier today, and followed the new alignment of US 63 pretty much the entire way, even though I had no idea that this changed. I took several photos of the new alignment, which can all be found in this folder.

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The new alignment for US 63 follows I-40 between Hazen and Brinkley (Exits 193 - 216), and is concurrent with US 49 between Brinkley and I-555, before continuing to follow I-555 north.

The old alignment for US 63 follows I-40 between Hazen and I-55 (exits 193 - 277), then follows I-55 between I-40 and I-555 (exits 8 - 23), then follows I-555 for its entire length.



The new alignment is about 101.5 miles long, and the old alignment is about 152.4 miles. The most recent map files from ARDOT (November, 2020) do not show this new alignment for US 63, and I still need to look a bit more regarding this new change.
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2021, 10:48:28 PM »

From the document linked above:
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A shorter route exists between Brinkley, Arkansas and Jonesboro, Arkansas along existing U.S. Highway 49.
Why specifically those two points? An even shorter route compared to the reroute also exists between El Dorado and Hardy along US 167.
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2021, 12:03:56 AM »

From the document linked above:
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A shorter route exists between Brinkley, Arkansas and Jonesboro, Arkansas along existing U.S. Highway 49.
Why specifically those two points? An even shorter route compared to the reroute also exists between El Dorado and Hardy along US 167.

They probably wanted to retain the route through Jonesboro, at least that's my guess.
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2021, 08:33:41 AM »

I hate ARDOT why tf haven't they moved US 49 to AR 1? Now 49 looks even more redundant  :-/.
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2021, 12:48:15 PM »

I hate ARDOT why tf haven't they moved US 49 to AR 1? Now 49 looks even more redundant  :-/.

Doesn't US 49 bypass Forrest City and Marianna unlike AR 1?
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2021, 03:34:43 PM »

I swear I read all about this back around Christmas on here, but I cannot find it anywhere.
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2021, 03:59:32 PM »

I swear I read all about this back around Christmas on here, but I cannot find it anywhere.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=25202.0

I hate ARDOT why tf haven't they moved US 49 to AR 1? Now 49 looks even more redundant  :-/.


Doesn't US 49 bypass Forrest City and Marianna unlike AR 1?
Yeah, but AR 1 bypasses Brinkley and is the most direct route from Barton to Jonesboro. Hell, 63 could've been put on it and could swing over to US 79. But anyway.
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2021, 04:01:04 PM »

They probably should have rerouted US 63 this way in 1999, when 63 was extended to Reston, Louisiana; or in 2016, when Interstate 555 was officially designated. That being said, I think US 63 should have terminated at US 167 in El Dorado, and should not have duplexed with 167 all the way to Reston, unless the purpose was for the US 63 extension to terminate at an Interstate Highway.
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2021, 10:06:07 PM »

They probably should have rerouted US 63 this way in 1999, when 63 was extended to Reston, Louisiana; or in 2016, when Interstate 555 was officially designated. That being said, I think US 63 should have terminated at US 167 in El Dorado, and should not have duplexed with 167 all the way to Reston, unless the purpose was for the US 63 extension to terminate at an Interstate Highway.

With I-555 now southeast of Jonesboro they should just completely replace US 167 in LA and AR with US 63 and the section between US 412 and I-555 becoming AR-555. 
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #63 on: May 25, 2021, 09:29:28 AM »

ARDOT in their infinite wisdom is wanting to move US 63 off I-555 and move it to (and replace) US 49 from Jonesboro to Brinkley.

They should just end 63 at Jonesboro. South of I-40, change it back to AR 11.

Didn't US63 end in West Memphis until they extended it in 1996?  After that it takes a rather odd route back west then south.

Word was they want to remove the West Memphis routing and take it straight south from Jonesboro.

Find it interesting the only way you can enter Memphis from the west is by freeway.
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Re: [Arkansas] New alignment of US Route 63
« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2021, 09:31:33 AM »

They probably should have rerouted US 63 this way in 1999, when 63 was extended to Reston, Louisiana; or in 2016, when Interstate 555 was officially designated. That being said, I think US 63 should have terminated at US 167 in El Dorado, and should not have duplexed with 167 all the way to Reston, unless the purpose was for the US 63 extension to terminate at an Interstate Highway.

With I-555 now southeast of Jonesboro they should just completely replace US 167 in LA and AR with US 63 and the section between US 412 and I-555 becoming AR-555.

I wouldn't take US 167-cum-63 any further than I-49 at the terminus of the Pineville Expressway. (Hey look, termination at an interstate! Yay!) US 167 doesn't really serve any purpose south of Alexandria other than connecting Ville Platte and Abbeville to the US system.

The main problem with extending US 63 into Louisiana is that La. doesn't let LA highways share numbers with US highways, and we already have an LA 63. That's probably why US 63 doesn't go any further than Ruston and multiplexes with 167 in its entirety in La.; it's technically "LA" 167.

And if ceremonial multiplexing isn't a problem, then US 165 Alexandria to Lake Charles makes more sense than US 167 Alexandria to Abbeville.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2021, 02:49:08 PM »

I hate ARDOT why tf haven't they moved US 49 to AR 1? Now 49 looks even more redundant  :-/.

Doesn't US 49 bypass Forrest City and Marianna unlike AR 1?

Doesn't come close to either one.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2021, 08:58:06 PM »

IMO, what should have been done was:
     (1) Truncate US 167 at I-530/US 65
     (2) Extend US 63 south over the former northern section of US 167
     (3) Multiplex US 63 south over US 67 to Higginson/AR 11
     (4) Replace AR 11 south to I-40 at the present US 63 divergence. 
The remainder of US 63 south of there would remain on its present alignment.  This would eliminate the US 67/167 duplex north of LR and keep US 63 more or less on the N-S trajectory it has farther north.  And as has been suggested upthread, present US 63 from Jonesboro NW to US 412 would become AR 555. 
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #67 on: May 26, 2021, 08:43:17 AM »

I hate ARDOT why tf haven't they moved US 49 to AR 1? Now 49 looks even more redundant  :-/.

Doesn't US 49 bypass Forrest City and Marianna unlike AR 1?

Doesn't come close to either one.

It is an effective bypass as a through route, however, the route does not serve as a bypass of said towns.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2021, 12:27:51 PM »

US 49 needs rerouted down Ark 1 from Jonesboro to Barton now. Talk about straightening something out.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2021, 02:11:50 PM »

IMO, what should have been done was:
     (1) Truncate US 167 [north of] I-530/US 65

Couple that with replacing US 167 with 63 south of El Dorado and there's no reason for US 167 to continue to exist. The short segment between I-530 and El Dorado should have been US 63W.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2021, 04:18:30 PM »

US 49 needs rerouted down Ark 1 from Jonesboro to Barton now. Talk about straightening something out.

You want to compensate those who need new stationary and to reprogram computers and websites?
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #71 on: May 26, 2021, 04:44:51 PM »

Not sure if it got covered in a legacy thread.

ArDOT is planning on using US-63 now as part of a future corridor to Louisiana.

The West Memphis endpoint dates back to the 1930's and now instead of recycling a number from the grave, they are simply going to re-route the existing.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2021, 12:05:11 PM »

US 49 needs rerouted down Ark 1 from Jonesboro to Barton now. Talk about straightening something out.

You want to compensate those who need new stationary and to reprogram computers and websites?

Cities do it all the time as I reply from  6th Street in Fayetteville. Most of these business will be in a town where it has a name like Red Wolf Drive or whatever it is from Stadium Drive.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #73 on: May 27, 2021, 12:42:02 PM »

US 49 needs rerouted down Ark 1 from Jonesboro to Barton now. Talk about straightening something out.

You want to compensate those who need new stationary and to reprogram computers and websites?

Cities should not use state or higher route designations as the street name of addresses on a street. An actual street name should be determined. State routes (and US routes, etc) need to have the flexibility to be routed along what would be the best route for traffic using the route to travel between cities.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #74 on: May 27, 2021, 01:47:03 PM »

Perhaps the 1999 extension of US 63 between El Dorado and Brinkley should have been a newly-commissioned 3-digit US Highway. Or maybe, like US 425, its pre-existing state highway designation(s) should have been maintained. Since we likely agree that the US 63 extension was a "what-were-they-thinking?" move, would you have preferred the former or the latter?
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