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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2018, 02:16:00 AM »

There really needs to be a more direct north-south route from Searcy to Hazen.  Then call that US63.  Duplex US63 from Searcy to Hardy.  Then you have a continuous US63.  The old segment from Jonesboro to Hardy can be SR-555 or something.

Extend AR 463 (old US 63) north of Jonesboro

No need to designate a new route over current US 63 NW of Walnut Ridge; it's multiplexed with US 412 all the way to Hardy (as well as US 62 west of Imboden).  Still think an "AR 555" would work Jonesboro-Walnut Ridge. 
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2018, 12:12:58 PM »

There really needs to be a more direct north-south route from Searcy to Hazen.  Then call that US63.  Duplex US63 from Searcy to Hardy.  Then you have a continuous US63.  The old segment from Jonesboro to Hardy can be SR-555 or something.

Once I-57 becomes official, 63 would again become redundant (as will US 67, 167 and 64)
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2018, 12:42:58 PM »

Yeah, it depends on if Arkansas thinks that extra designations will help people find where to go. I'm okay with duplicity if it'll help people.  I'm on the fence about whether AR-555 should take over the whole remainder of 63

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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2018, 04:44:46 PM »

Have they chosen an alignment of US 63 yet or is that still up in the air?
I'm guessing it would make the most sense to send it down AR 367 beginning at Walnut Ridge until reaching Newport, then use AR 17 until reaching Cotton Plant, then meander its way over to US 49 and use it until reaching US 70. Follow it [US 70] toward Hazen and then continue down its current path.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2018, 06:33:21 PM »

To me, a case could be made for a single route incorporating the non-Interstate portions of the direct route between Kansas City and Memphis. And the obvious number, painful as it would be to admit, would be US 555.  :clap:  Then they could do about any damn thing with US 63.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2018, 10:31:45 PM »

Have they chosen an alignment of US 63 yet or is that still up in the air?
I'm guessing it would make the most sense to send it down AR 367 beginning at Walnut Ridge until reaching Newport, then use AR 17 until reaching Cotton Plant, then meander its way over to US 49 and use it until reaching US 70. Follow it [US 70] toward Hazen and then continue down its current path.

Still discussing it/holding meetings.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2018, 10:50:46 PM »


New Roads


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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2018, 06:11:46 AM »


New Roads


…..is this the official town of our page?

For those wondering, New Roads is the parish seat of Pointe Coupeé Parish:

https://goo.gl/maps/6k8jgB4wu2K2
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2018, 06:29:02 PM »

Have they chosen an alignment of US 63 yet or is that still up in the air?
I'm guessing it would make the most sense to send it down AR 367 beginning at Walnut Ridge until reaching Newport, then use AR 17 until reaching Cotton Plant, then meander its way over to US 49 and use it until reaching US 70. Follow it [US 70] toward Hazen and then continue down its current path.

Still discussing it/holding meetings.

I wonder if that was the process employed when the current convoluted US 63 alignment was selected.  Hope it works out better this time!
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2018, 07:09:32 PM »

Have they chosen an alignment of US 63 yet or is that still up in the air?
I'm guessing it would make the most sense to send it down AR 367 beginning at Walnut Ridge until reaching Newport, then use AR 17 until reaching Cotton Plant, then meander its way over to US 49 and use it until reaching US 70. Follow it [US 70] toward Hazen and then continue down its current path.

Still discussing it/holding meetings.

I wonder if that was the process employed when the current convoluted US 63 alignment was selected.  Hope it works out better this time!

The last meetings that may have created the current routing of US 63 were probably held at some local bars after happy hour. :cheers:
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2018, 08:44:28 PM »

Have they chosen an alignment of US 63 yet or is that still up in the air?
I'm guessing it would make the most sense to send it down AR 367 beginning at Walnut Ridge until reaching Newport, then use AR 17 until reaching Cotton Plant, then meander its way over to US 49 and use it until reaching US 70. Follow it [US 70] toward Hazen and then continue down its current path.

Still discussing it/holding meetings.

I wonder if that was the process employed when the current convoluted US 63 alignment was selected.  Hope it works out better this time!

If memory serves correct, it was extended past West Memphis with little fanfare, just a simple "we did this"
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2018, 09:58:34 PM »

Have they chosen an alignment of US 63 yet or is that still up in the air?
I'm guessing it would make the most sense to send it down AR 367 beginning at Walnut Ridge until reaching Newport, then use AR 17 until reaching Cotton Plant, then meander its way over to US 49 and use it until reaching US 70. Follow it [US 70] toward Hazen and then continue down its current path.

Still discussing it/holding meetings.

I wonder if that was the process employed when the current convoluted US 63 alignment was selected.  Hope it works out better this time!

The last meetings that may have created the current routing of US 63 were probably held at some local bars after happy hour. :cheers:

Arguably the same process that AASHTO's SCOURN used back in 2016 at their spring Des Moines meeting that produced the I-87 designation for the NC/VA HPC-13 corridor.  Not that there's that much else to do in Des Moines. :-P

(I fully expect to get pithy comments about this one!)
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2018, 10:30:51 PM »

Arguably the same process that AASHTO's SCOURN used back in 2016 at their spring Des Moines meeting that produced the I-87 designation for the NC/VA HPC-13 corridor.  Not that there's that much else to do in Des Moines. :-P

(I fully expect to get pithy comments about this one!)

Nah, it's accurate. :D
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2018, 07:42:21 PM »

ARDOT put up their proposed map...

Just making a US 49-63 duplex.

US 63 Business designations in Jonesboro and Marked Tree to get state route designations...

See - http://www.arkansashighways.com/public_meetings/2018/Hwy63/US63_ReRoute8OCT2018_Pamplet.pdf
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2018, 09:30:10 AM »

ARDOT put up their proposed map...

Just making a US 49-63 duplex.

US 63 Business designations in Jonesboro and Marked Tree to get state route designations...

See - http://www.arkansashighways.com/public_meetings/2018/Hwy63/US63_ReRoute8OCT2018_Pamplet.pdf

Makes sense. US 63 takes a straighter, less-convoluted route with hidden concurrencies with interstates.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2018, 12:47:43 PM »

ARDOT put up their proposed map...

Just making a US 49-63 duplex.

US 63 Business designations in Jonesboro and Marked Tree to get state route designations...

See - http://www.arkansashighways.com/public_meetings/2018/Hwy63/US63_ReRoute8OCT2018_Pamplet.pdf

I wished the US 63 Bus designations would be turned into BL I-555 designations, but I guess that thought hasn't occured to ARDOT.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2018, 08:04:53 PM »

ARDOT put up their proposed map...

Just making a US 49-63 duplex.

US 63 Business designations in Jonesboro and Marked Tree to get state route designations...

See - http://www.arkansashighways.com/public_meetings/2018/Hwy63/US63_ReRoute8OCT2018_Pamplet.pdf

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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2018, 08:33:22 PM »

ARDOT put up their proposed map...

Just making a US 49-63 duplex.

US 63 Business designations in Jonesboro and Marked Tree to get state route designations...

See - http://www.arkansashighways.com/public_meetings/2018/Hwy63/US63_ReRoute8OCT2018_Pamplet.pdf

I wished the US 63 Bus designations would be turned into BL I-555 designations, but I guess that thought hasn't occurred to ARDOT.

We've not had Interstate Business Loop designations since the mid 70's when BL 30 was decommissioned.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2018, 05:53:09 AM »

I wonder what would become of 63B in Jonesboro and Marked Tree?
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2018, 05:56:11 AM »

There are some truly terrible ideas being suggested in here. You know who you are. Now I remember why I avoid the fantasy highway forum.

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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2018, 05:59:18 AM »

US 63 once ended in Memphis, Tennessee. I don't know if it ended at the foot of the bridge, at the state line or at the I-55-Crump interchange.

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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2018, 06:06:07 AM »

This will establish perhaps the shortest US highway triplex in the country, consisting of US 49-63-64.

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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2018, 08:03:33 AM »

This will establish perhaps the shortest US highway triplex in the country, consisting of US 49-63-64.


Interesting point. I hadn't thought of that.
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2018, 02:17:30 AM »

US 63 once ended in Memphis, Tennessee. I don't know if it ended at the foot of the bridge, at the state line or at the I-55-Crump interchange.

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IIRC from Gousha maps from the early '60's, US 63 ended at the corner of Crump Blvd. and 3rd. Street, a few blocks east of the bridge and where US 61 turned south from its multi-route multiplex across the river. 
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Re: Redesignating US 63
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2018, 11:45:30 AM »

US 63 once ended in Memphis, Tennessee. I don't know if it ended at the foot of the bridge, at the state line or at the I-55-Crump interchange.
IIRC from Gousha maps from the early '60's, US 63 ended at the corner of Crump Blvd. and 3rd. Street, a few blocks east of the bridge and where US 61 turned south from its multi-route multiplex across the river.
I've never seen any evidence that US 63 was ever signposted anywhere in Tennessee, so if you ever come across a map or a photo that shows otherwise, I'd love to see it.  I'm under the impression that TNDoT had no use for (and therefore never signed) the US 63 designation.
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