Why is Baltimore Signed Along US 301?

Started by roadman65, December 23, 2024, 08:57:31 AM

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I just thought the particular way you called out Rothman in this thread seemed hypocritical. I have no idea what the origin of your apparent grievance against him is (nor do I think I want to know), but I call them as I see them.
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Flint1979

I don't see Baltimore as a control city here, it's just on the mileage signs which is fine if you ask me. Hanover is the NB US-301 control city at this point which is nothing but so is pretty much of everything going up 301 from Richmond until you get into Maryland.

Flint1979

Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 24, 2024, 02:21:59 AMBetter question: why is Baltimore signed along I-70? That one's a brand new question, never argued about before ever.
Oh it's been argued.

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Quote from: Flint1979 on December 24, 2024, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 24, 2024, 02:21:59 AMBetter question: why is Baltimore signed along I-70? That one's a brand new question, never argued about before ever.
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Mapmikey

Baltimore begins being a control city on 301 in Virginia at Bowling Green

VA 207 at VA 207 Bus - https://maps.app.goo.gl/zAD8jhb6sgdsbiULA
US 301 Bus ending at US 301 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/RZd63pq8uBwJjf3W6
VA 207 ending at US 301 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/ute4Nf1cUh3cZ46u9
VA 2 at US 301 Bus - https://maps.app.goo.gl/DqAgDhFHDAaqghgH8
US 301-VA 2 split - https://maps.app.goo.gl/bAb4BCj9S63mAQig8
US 301 Port Royal - https://maps.app.goo.gl/i8DusZN7fVs53h6T6
US 17 Port Royal - https://maps.app.goo.gl/3ngdca3i1Gjok8VdA
VA 3 King George - https://maps.app.goo.gl/Xceuy1SBR6LPBDHeA
VA 206 Dahlgren - https://maps.app.goo.gl/KNjL56CFgx2DUhfH9

There is at least 1 mileage sign for Baltimore on VA 207, leaving I-95  - https://maps.app.goo.gl/sXp12rDCJTT5gbzK9

Interestingly, there is a Washington DC mileage sign on US 301 well south of La Plata MD - https://maps.app.goo.gl/Kc27kMYZPpV2sZb1A

301 has also seen explosive growth on the Virginia side between VA 206 and the 301 entrance to Dahlgren, in addition to the large (and continuing) growth from La Plata to Bowie...

NJRoadfan

Baltimore appears on the mileage sign just north of I-295 as well.

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Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 24, 2024, 02:21:59 AMBetter question: why is Baltimore signed along I-70? That one's a brand new question, never argued about before ever.
:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Quote from: Flint1979 on December 24, 2024, 12:33:48 PMI don't see Baltimore as a control city here, it's just on the mileage signs which is fine if you ask me. Hanover is the NB US-301 control city at this point which is nothing but so is pretty much of everything going up 301 from Richmond until you get into Maryland.

That's SOP for Virginia. They will list the nearest wide-spot-in-the-road community, a more distant larger town such as a county seat or major intersection, and a distant "control city." On US 23 at the Kentucky state line, listed are Pound, Big Stone Gap (why Wise and Norton are passed over is a mystery to me) and Kingsport. On US 460, the choices are Grundy, Claypool Hill, and Bluefield.
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RoadPelican

Some random thoughts I had about US 301, Baltimore and the year 1997....

I remember reading an article in the Baltimore Sun Newspaper about a proposed freeway bypass of Waldorf. (I think this was in the summer of 1997)

No freeway bypass was ever built. However, there is an option to the east of Waldorf and Laplata (going south to north via Rosewick Rd, St Charles Parkway, and MD Route 5, these are all multilane roads with at-grade traffic light intersections. I believe this pseudo bypass corridor was finished around 2008.

Also, I'm about 90% sure that 1997 was the year that a ramp from US 50 East to I-97 North was completed giving motorists direct access from 50 East to I-97. Before that was you had to use MD 450 or MD 665 to get to I-97 (no direct access)

You can use going south to north, MD 214 to MD 424 to US 50/301 to I-97 as a bypass of Bowie and Crofton. If you are traveling from Southern Maryland to Baltimore Although you may hit some traffic on I-97 North from US 50 to Millersville because of overcapacity (only 2 lanes) but after Millersville it goes to 3.

roadman65

Quote from: RoadPelican on December 27, 2024, 04:20:30 PMSome random thoughts I had about US 301, Baltimore and the year 1997....

I remember reading an article in the Baltimore Sun Newspaper about a proposed freeway bypass of Waldorf. (I think this was in the summer of 1997)

No freeway bypass was ever built. However, there is an option to the east of Waldorf and Laplata (going south to north via Rosewick Rd, St Charles Parkway, and MD Route 5, these are all multilane roads with at-grade traffic light intersections. I believe this pseudo bypass corridor was finished around 2008.

Also, I'm about 90% sure that 1997 was the year that a ramp from US 50 East to I-97 North was completed giving motorists direct access from 50 East to I-97. Before that was you had to use MD 450 or MD 665 to get to I-97 (no direct access)

You can use going south to north, MD 214 to MD 424 to US 50/301 to I-97 as a bypass of Bowie and Crofton. If you are traveling from Southern Maryland to Baltimore Although you may hit some traffic on I-97 North from US 50 to Millersville because of overcapacity (only 2 lanes) but after Millersville it goes to 3.


When I drove it in 1997 the control city on US 301 at MD 3 reflected that change already.  Baltimore was already replaced with Crofton then for straight through MD 3 and Baltimore signed for US 50 East/ US 301 North ( to I-97).
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